2 October 2024

NSW on board for a faster train service, Canberra station redevelopment, says Barr

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Queanbeyan and Palerang Council Cr Kenrick Winchester and Chief Minister Andrew Barr discuss the rail possibilities for the Canberra region at Canberra Railway Station. Photo: Ian Bushnell.

A redeveloped Canberra Railway Station and faster train travel to Sydney are a step closer after the NSW Government came on board to back ACT Labor’s plans for urban renewal in East Lake and agreed to set up a working group to reduce travel times on the popular route.

Chief Minister Andrew Barr, announcing the initiatives at the NSW-owned station with Queanbeyan and Palerang Council Cr Kenrick Winchester, said the decision by NSW Premier Chris Minns to support the station redevelopment and long called for works to cut the travel time to Sydney under four hours was significant.

Mr Minns said in a statement that the rail route between Canberra and Sydney was a critical line connecting families, workers and businesses across the state and territory.

“But we know it needs to be improved,” he said.

“That’s why we’re working with the ACT Labor Government to investigate key areas for improvement that would provide more reliable and faster journeys for commuters travelling between Canberra and Sydney.”

The backing comes after the East Lake Place Plan and its planning changes came into force last Friday, in which the transformation of the railway station into a multi-modal transport hub is a key part of a multi-level residential, retail and commercial precinct.

Mr Barr said that while there had been support for various improvements to the station and the line to Sydney before, this time, it came from the top.

He said NSW would not be investing in the redevelopment itself, which would proceed as a public-private partnership funded by land releases, the first of which is slated for 2025-26.

“This announcement today is a very big contribution to more housing supply to more economic activity and to better utilise land that is really proximal to existing services,” Mr Barr said.

He said the NSW Government would need to decide whether it still wanted to lease and operate the station in that context.

“They are doing these sorts of station redevelopment projects at considerable volume within their own state already, so they bring a lot of experience to the table on how to undertake these sorts of transit-oriented redevelopment,” Mr Barr said

NSW TrainLink Southern XPLORER train at Canberra Station at night

The NSW TrainLink Southern XPLORER train at Canberra Station. More than 280,000 journeys have been made on the NSW TrainLink service in and out of Canberra in the past 12 months. Photo: John Coleman

Mr Barr said the 1960s station did not reflect the modern national capital or the growing patronage on the route, saying the site must be transformed to provide a greater sense of arrival and be fully connected with the existing city transport network.

He said that despite the four-hour trip, the three services to Sydney were heavily booked, and more than 280,000 journeys were made on the NSW TrainLink service in and out of Canberra in the past 12 months.

If the journey time could be reduced to three hours and be competitive with air and road travel, demand would grow, and more services or seats would be added, he said.

“The New South Wales Government is procuring new trains to support their intercity and regional services, but we do know that track work and the question of more express services, so fewer stops along the way, are necessary to reduce the travel time,” he said.

“But what I am convinced of is that there is an appetite for this. Of all of the major Australian cities, Canberra and Sydney are the most likely to be able to be viable train-serviced cities.”

Mr Barr said the Commonwealth was already considering a proposal that would contribute to improving the line, which would be welcome.

“The Premier has made clear in his statement today that he intends to join with me to work with the Federal Government on the project,” he said.

Cr Winchester said a faster service between Canberra and Sydney would be popular with people in the region.

“There’s a hell of a lot of people that live in NSW between the ACT and Sydney that will all benefit from a faster service,” he said.

Cr Winchester said people from Queanbeyan would jump at the chance to ride a three-hour train to Sydney, even if they had to board in Canberra.

“People from Bungendore or Tarago will happily go to either Canberra or Goulburn to jump on,” he said, “so it’s going to be popular.”

The working group would be looking at bus connections with the smaller towns and there might even be a free service from Queanbeyan station to Canberra.

East Lake is expected to be delivered over decades and could have an eventual population of 9000 and a workforce of 3000, with buildings ranging from four to eight storeys.

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Finance 6'5" Blue Eyes7:09 am 04 Oct 24

Fixing Canberra’s heavy rail; they’re only just thinking of this now?!? This is what should’ve been done in the first place instead of the light rail!!
Stage 1 should’ve been extending the rail to the city centre.
Stage 2 could’ve put the Northside line in.
So many more possibilities for the future, such as a Murrumbateman/Yass line and a Goulburn line.
Owell, I guess we just have our toy train line now.

GrumpyGrandpa4:28 pm 03 Oct 24

Ok, first up, this is just election dribble. No commitment, no budget, nothing, just dribble.
That said, travelling to Kingston to catch the train, is kinda out of the way for a lot of people. At least Murray’s leave from the City.

There needs to be at least 2, non/limited stops express services, leaving Canberra at 5am, return departing Sydney 8pm.
Supplemented by the existing 3 services.
There should also be commuter services between Canberra and Goulburn and Cooma.
Bringing the trip to under 3 hours will not happen until there is a serious commitment to doing some urgent track and bridge upgrades, possibly passing lines or duplication, so the rolling stock can run at their rated speed and frequency can be increased.

Taking into account the number of people who travel using concessional fares, I doubt whether the Canberra to Sydney service is actually profitable.

Public transport almost never pays for itself with fares. It pays for itself by increased social amenity (more access to transport by the less well-off), reduced congestion and less overall consumption of resources per person-km travelled.

Surely the station is the last of the problems that need fixing. It’s a nice to have – but if you don’t commit to fixing the track and reducing journey time then what’s the point?

There are currently three trains each way a day between Canberra and Sydney. I’m not sure that Canberra Station merits any more than a mild refresh until and unless the service improves. Speaking of which, the main obstacle to a faster journey time is the condition of the track between Queanbeyan and Goulburn through the Molonglo Gorge, which wends it way through many rocky cuttings and over several rickety trestle bridges. This section of the route has been neglected for decades and needs serious investment. Where will the money for this come from? And yes, the trains are well patronised, mainly, I understand, by pensioners and other people entitled to concessional fares. Canberra to Sydney should be treated as an inter-city service with appropriate coaching stock. We are not even worthy of XPTs!

Capital Retro9:27 am 03 Oct 24

The trains could go much faster on the section you mentioned if they were smaller and lighter.
It would be better to run off the shelf DMU 2 carriage “tram trains” more frequently between Canberra and Goulburn (where the faster trains operate to Sydney and Melbourne). At the same time the smaller, faster DMUs could provide a weekday commuter service from Bungendore – Canberra return and take thousands of cars off the Kings Highway. That would also free up parking in Canberra and save out of town motorists about $100 a week in parking alone.

I don’t think that people would appreciate having to change trains at Goulburn and this would be viewed as yet another disincentive to travelling by train. The maximum speed on the line to Goulburn is dictated by the alignment and condition of the track and infrastructure. In many places it is no more than 60 km/h. Using lightweight DMUs does not address this. There is little appetite for NSW to do anything except basic maintenance to the line for the same reason that the Barton Highway never gets fixed – the destination of both isn’t in NSW and so there is nothing in it for them. If Canberra were in NSW, with several state members of parliament, then things would probably be different.

Wow, an agreement to form a working group. Such progress, I can’t wait to see them progress towards proposing a ‘review’ in 4 years time, followed by a ‘scoping study’ 4 years after that, and then maybe a ‘business case’ another election cycle after that. By 2040 we might even be ready to ask the federal government for funding to be allocated to the project (for a project start in FY2050/51 of course).

Garry Johnson7:18 pm 02 Oct 24

Bla Bla Barr

We have been travelling a lot by train in the UK and France and it puts Australia to shame. Say what you like about the UK, but you can board a train in the north and be south in a couple of hours. To boot, you get good wifi, chargers and if you decide on first class, table service and as much of the reasonable food you can eat.

The Eurostar, while now older, has euro and uk power sockets and wifi.

Not saying they aren’t experiencing problems due to staff shortages and some stations are so busy it is a problem to navigate easily. This type of travel is also not cheap and pricing does seem to be dynamic eg. Book sooner, pay less, but if it was super cheap, the services probably couldn’t run.

Australia should be a leader in this area, but for reasons unknown or just plain cow towing to the airports and airlines, it’s not seen as a way to travel.

We need NSW on board obviously as most of the line is there, but it could have been done way sooner if Barr had been more on the case. We use the train to Sydney now and again as it’s preferable to driving/parking and paying airfares. Id still use it if it was more costly. They could at least put one more train on to take the strain off the current services.

@Hoppingmad
“… UK, but you can board a train in the north and be south in a couple of hours.”
Australia is about 32 times bigger than the United Kingdom and over 41 million fewer people live in Australia.

Distance and population density are two crucial aspects of providing rail travel that you obviously don’t think is a consideration.

So because we have fewer citizens and longer distances we should miss out? By that measure, let’s not expect anything then….broadband, electric vehicle charging, better energy options, as only the small population will make use of them.

I’d think it’s more reason to have a better connected system. The rail network has been in place in the UK for a very long time, before the population gre to its current size. They continue to expand the network.

We’ve heard it all before, Barr made a similar announcement about the train to Sydney in 2017.
https://the-riotact.com/barr-takes-train-to-lobby-nsw-on-rail-upgrade-partnership/203949

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