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Pirate policies. Are government funded artists willing to give up their rights to the work? [With poll]

By johnboy 19 September 2012 47

While the pirate campaign launch is still to happen down at Lake Burley Griffin the pirates have released a slew of policies.

Most of it is unlikely to get much argument but my god check this out:

The Pirate Party will seek to ensure that a proportion of Arts ACT grants are awarded
to artists who adopt creative commons licensing.

Forcing artists to give up the rights to their work in exchange for public funding?

Creative Commons licensing of Government funded art

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p1 12:36 pm 21 Sep 12

milkman said :

b) get a day job and do your art when you aren’t working

As someone who like to do “artistic” things, but who has very (very very) little natural talent, this has been, and I suspect always will be the only option for me (well, (d) might be an option if I win lotto….).

ppt1ne 11:05 am 21 Sep 12

Any artist (or craftsmen or whatever) who has a problem exposing their creations for free needs to get the business out of their art, IMO.

As a composer and musician, I get enough of a reward having an audience at all.

Therefore, when the art was produced with a grant, and automatically given such a huge audience, anyone who objects to creative commons for taxpayer-funded work needs to git out (let someone more worthy take their place).

milkman 6:45 am 21 Sep 12

poetix said :

milkman said :

Bottom line, if you want to be an artist, either:
a) be good enough to support yourself from people buying your stuff
b) get a day job and do your art when you aren’t working
c) get a grant from someone (e.g. govt) and accept the terms that come with it
d) be a rich bugger who doesn’t need to work anyway

Lots of options!

Or (e) marry well. (Said she, just back from her launch.)
But I do think there should be specific consultation with artists/writers on this.

Indeed. Artists should feel free to add (f) and (g), just don’t expect a free ride from me.

poetix 9:19 pm 20 Sep 12

milkman said :

Bottom line, if you want to be an artist, either:
a) be good enough to support yourself from people buying your stuff
b) get a day job and do your art when you aren’t working
c) get a grant from someone (e.g. govt) and accept the terms that come with it
d) be a rich bugger who doesn’t need to work anyway

Lots of options!

Or (e) marry well. (Said she, just back from her launch.)
But I do think there should be specific consultation with artists/writers on this.

milkman 7:46 pm 20 Sep 12

Bottom line, if you want to be an artist, either:
a) be good enough to support yourself from people buying your stuff
b) get a day job and do your art when you aren’t working
c) get a grant from someone (e.g. govt) and accept the terms that come with it
d) be a rich bugger who doesn’t need to work anyway

Lots of options!

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 5:48 pm 20 Sep 12

c_c said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

C_C, It doesn’t seem like you know much about how the interwebs work. If something is in data form, there is no way to stop it being passed around.

Nor was their any way to prevent CDs, DVDs, video cassettes, 8-tracks, vinyls, cassettes, silver-halide prints, books, newspapers etc… being passed around and copied.

You’d have to be more than a little silly to think the internet was the first medium to permit both the sharing of and theft of intellectual property.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

If a artist is being funded by my taxes, I should have legal acces to anything that comes of it.

No doubt the tax I pay is going to you in some form: Family Tax Benefit, Education Rebate. So I’m going to drop by your hours and pick up the laptop and school uniforms I helped pay for.

I’m going to try the same logic on my doctor next time. If my taxes helped pay for his medical degree (and by today’s figures the taxpayer contributes around $20,000 per semester course for a medical student, so easily $160,000 a year for their degree), then I should be able to see him for free. He already drives an Audi so he won’t be put out if I do.

And how will that access work for a physical, one of a kind piece if every taxpayer has legal access to it? Sculptures, oil on canvas, how exactly will we divide the ownership over that between all 23m taxpayers.
I know, we can require that it be put on display… wait, that’s already part of the grants process.

This is such Mickey Mouse logic its pathetic.

Difference being is that I’m not making money from the government. I’m not being paid by the government to earn a income.

Truthiness 4:27 pm 20 Sep 12

I am unsure how continued ad hominim attacks are contributing to this discussion.

The decision to engage with the dominant economic paradigm is one which is forced upon us all, I ultimately decided that my capacity to effect change for myself and the community was greater in my present position than in my previous positions. I would have thought it abundantly clear my primary motivation is not monetary.

Now, if we are sufficiently done dissecting my character, could we turn to the discussion at hand?

Open source provides us with a tool belt we can all use for free at any time. some folk use it to make money, some folk use it to avoid using money, some folk just play around with it. Whatever they use it for, the important thing is that it is there for all of us to use however we want. Increasing the size of our tool belt is a great idea, and if we keep adding to it, maybe one day we won’t all need to buy so many tools.

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