Police bash man

sorry I’m late.

grrr, bloddy pigs etc.

peterh said :

rush hour people: why don’t you speak to the police about using the skid pan area at majura? if your vehicles are street legal, there shouldn’t be a problem, and the area is designed to ensure that no-one gets hurt whilst watching the action.
Yeah what an absolutely awesome idea…. Pity we’ve already had that idea ourselves and done just that. But been knocked back by the way. All we need/want is a dragway and the sooner the government gives us one all this nonsense will stop. This may come as a surprise to you all but the police are actually in agreement with us about the dragway. They realise we have no where to go and appreciate that we go to out of the places, just like we appreciate the fact that they are only doing their jobs when they get called out to our meet spot.

Granny said :

pusilanimity

That’s the most awesome word I’ve seen in a long time.

Granny said :

DJ said :

Go back to where you came from if you don’t like it… unless where you’re from they held a gun to your head and made you come here.

Heck, the ‘real men’ all come from Barry Ottor’s ‘real state’ and ‘real police’ too. None of these plastic ones. And real chickens and real dogs and stuff, don’tcha know? They even have ‘real wimmin’ there ….

We’re just not good enough here in Canberra. Bazza’s better’n all of us. Bigger ‘n’ tuffer ‘n’ smarter ‘n’ all. And realer too. Really really really real. We all fade into pusilanimity next to a real thing like Barry Ottor.

are you saying he is really real?

DJ said :

Go back to where you came from if you don’t like it… unless where you’re from they held a gun to your head and made you come here.

Heck, the ‘real men’ all come from Barry Ottor’s ‘real state’ and ‘real police’ too. None of these plastic ones. And real chickens and real dogs and stuff, don’tcha know? They even have ‘real wimmin’ there ….

We’re just not good enough here in Canberra. Bazza’s better’n all of us. Bigger ‘n’ tuffer ‘n’ smarter ‘n’ all. And realer too. Really really really real. We all fade into pusilanimity next to a real thing like Barry Ottor.

rush hour people: why don’t you speak to the police about using the skid pan area at majura? if your vehicles are street legal, there shouldn’t be a problem, and the area is designed to ensure that no-one gets hurt whilst watching the action.

I occasionally go to kowen, booroomba and other sites around canberra, and I have been overtaken by idiots on the road – your members may think it is fine to cut off another car when the overtaking attempt is confronted by an oncoming car, I don’t. I work out at several properties and will sometimes work well past sunset. The majura site would be ideal for you, just need to convince the police that it is a good idea??

barry ottor said :

I suppose i better add ‘very insecure’ to the list too, DJ!

So it would seem. Go back to where you came from if you don’t like it… unless where you’re from they held a gun to your head and made you come here.

barry ottor said :

It would seem like the term ‘plastic police’ really does apply down here. Try doing the job in a real state before you go on about how tough you are boys.

So your argument is that there’s not enough crime in the ACT? You’d like more, would you?

I suppose i better add ‘very insecure’ to the list too, DJ!

Unless they knew three Australian 24 hour mountain bike championships were held in Kowen forest, and it’s still a relatively popular spot for a night ride.

In the part of Kowen that we meet is nowhere near where the races are held or where night riders are going to be.

DJ said :

Push harder for a dragway…. make it legal and you might be surprised who comes for a look…

All rush hour members have pushed for a dragway, signing a petition and also voting for the AMP(Australian Motoring Party) since they themselves promised to do just that but were unfortunately were defeated in the last election. Not only that the Government has been promising a dragway for years but as usual just another one of their broken promises. What’s new?
As I have heard there are many car clubs that meet in Canberra on particular nights, most of these gatherings are just that, gatherings. The police are well aware of all of them and do their best to police their activities.
After reading the original post and also reading that the suspect was thrown into a fence on a number of occasions I would agree that the police did use excessive force and am not at all surprised that this particular event was not included in the police’s version of events.
As for the “code of ethics” if you were a member of this car club you would know that there is a code of ethics and everyone knows them and abides by them. As posted by Apoc the aforementioned suspect was not even a member of this particular club.
They do their best to enjoy themselves(although illegally) in a safe matter that does not harm others except perhaps themselves or their own vehicles which is their own problem. Yes I am aware that there was an attempt to harm a police office but i reiterate as mentioned prior the suspect was not a member so why blame the whole club for his actions.
If you ask me you all need to get off your high horses and concentrate on more important matter instead of arguing back and forth about who’s right and who’s full of crap

barry ottor said :

For those having a go at Ingeegoodbee for his intemperate remarks, you should know that it was someone who normally comes on here decrying the legal system who felt necessary to run for the same cover of our pathetic defamation laws. I for one thought this was pathetic and weak, no matter how deranged Ingeegoodbees comments always are. It would seem like the term ‘plastic police’ really does apply down here. Try doing the job in a real state before you go on about how tough you are boys.

Bollocks. Are you fishing or are you an idiot? Tell us your war stories about how much harder things are elsewhere and how you even know the term plastic police. Are you a weed from another field? If so, go back you’re not worth a coppers bootlace and that’s been proven soooo many times.

Ingeegoodbee said :

I’m sorry Tooks

I accept your apology. And ‘arse puppet’ is the nicest thing you’ve ever said to me. Cheers.

mchoonwithcheese said :

not to mention move summernats from epic (to make you tree hugging sooks happy)

I don’t think you do yourself any favours abusing the people who might not want the dragway. I think if you keep doing that they’ll make sure it’ll never happen.

DJ said :

Push harder for a dragway…. make it legal and you might be surprised who comes for a look…

For a Dragway to happen in the ACT would be the best thing to happen in this city in years. While it would not completly eliminate street racing or burnouts, I dare say it would definatly help, not to mention move summernats from epic (to make you tree hugging sooks happy), and also create jobs.

To also set the record straight with Kowen, naturally if there were cars/bikes/people not associated with us in the car park when we arrived, we would leave.

how many of u have actually heard of kowen forest?… its a place nobody would go at night unless they where going ‘parking’

Unless they knew three Australian 24 hour mountain bike championships were held in Kowen forest, and it’s still a relatively popular spot for a night ride.

how many of u have actually heard of kowen forest?… its a place nobody would go at night unless they where going ‘parking’

Potentially explains why so many of you guys were out there to begin with.

If you dont like undesirables in your group, perhaps you need to get a code of ethics for your online community to agree with and then only people on the forums know where to go to meets.

Furthermore, if you have a code of ethics which participants agree on, it could work in your favor if things end up in court, i.e. you can explain that rush hour members agree to a code of ethics and that the potential offender that is in court can be proven as not a member of rush hour.

If you are going to do things that are illegal, then isn’t it in the collective groups best interest to only allow members who agree to the code of ethics to attend “events”

Cave Clan could teach you guys a thing or 2 about code of ethics and weeding out undesirable group elements.

barry ottor said :

Try doing the job in a real state before you go on about how tough you are boys.

Things to be grateful for:

1. I don’t live in a ‘real state’ with cops like barry ottor.

Yeah, that’s about all really ….

For those having a go at Ingeegoodbee for his intemperate remarks, you should know that it was someone who normally comes on here decrying the legal system who felt necessary to run for the same cover of our pathetic defamation laws. I for one thought this was pathetic and weak, no matter how deranged Ingeegoodbees comments always are. It would seem like the term ‘plastic police’ really does apply down here. Try doing the job in a real state before you go on about how tough you are boys.

Push harder for a dragway…. make it legal and you might be surprised who comes for a look…

Passed on behalf of Rushhour; The drop kick with the stolen 300zx, bag of weed and scissors which he apparently threatened an officer with.. has been told never to return to the group and can spend another year in jail – Stolen cars are banned from Rushhour, if it was known, that person would have been told to leave earlier.

I can also say for certain that no organised street racing ever occurs at Rushhour. Kowen is a good place where we don’t bother the community and hardly ever attract police attention because nobody puts through complaints!

Dangerous activity is disciplined and a ‘danger zone’ has been designated to avoid damage or injury. we arent perfect but this is part of our culture and impound/forfeiting cars hasnt stopped it either. least it isnt in the suburbs!!

We aren’t challenging the AFP either, we accept their authority and we abide by police direction. The police do their job very well. with a very small number of officers being unfair and threatening (physically) in some instances, which we can’t prove at this stage due to a video camera ban at Rushhour.

We are doing our best to give these young guys and girls somewhere to go instead of the suburbs, there are alot of families in Rushhour with kids, and we to do not wish our kids lives to be in danger because of some dick head p plater drifting up a public street putting our families lives at risk.

Ingeegoodbee is a grub who has previously been made to give a grovelling apology to another person on this site due to similar comments. He is a sloooow learner, but this should be expected from an internet hard man who doesn’t have the balls to confront people anywhere but in cyberspace.

I’m sorry Tooks but I’m going to have to correct you on that count. I’ll type this slowly so it will be easier for you to understand. It is true that I posted a remark that crossed the line. No one ‘made’ me do anything. I apologised, vg accepted that apology. End of story. We’ll almost – there’s still a few arse-puppets like yourself who keep bringing it up.

“Ever heard of an Australian drag race driver named Troy Critchley? He’s a professional race driver and yet he still managed to lose control of his car on a main road and killed 6 bystanders at a charity event in the US in 2007.

If a professional driver is able to get into a situation like this, how can you honestly say that what you are doing isn’t dangerous?”

Brilliant comparison, Mr Evil.

It might have something to do with the fact that we arent driving 2000 horsepower race cars, and there also isnt 1000 odd people lining the streets while a race car drives past 2 meters away at 100+mph. While I will admit there is always a slim chance of an injury, we are all aware of this. There is also a slim chance that I will get hit in the head by a cricket ball, but still go and watch the game. Maybe if that happens, it might bring me down to your level and we could have a more equally intelectual conversation?

Woody – “No, the stance that says it’s ok for the police to beat people for something as trivial as ‘gobbing off’. But you knew that, didn’t you? Back to putting plastic pegs in buckets for you, my special friend.”

Are scissors to the throat trivial? Back to sitting around being an utter tool for you I guess.

Ingeegoodbee said :

Tough skin is needed on this site, but that comment is bordering on down right offensive.

So your’re suggesting that there’s an acceptable level of numbers of kiddie porn aficianados in the police force?

No. What you are implying is that Police are all into kiddie porn. I am with Spideydog – that is down right offensive. You haven’t been sticking your head up for a while ingee and probably for good reason.

If these people want to drive out to unpopulated areas and waste rubber who cares? If one of them loses control and kills or injures themselves and/or spectators, too bad, they knew the risks. So long as there’s no cost to the taxpayer ie ambulances, rescue services with jaws of life, etc, let them do whatever they want.

“In our defence, we do it in areas far from the public eye, where no one can get injured. Burnouts are not dangerous.”

Until someone loses control of their car and ploughs into a group of bystanders!

Ever heard of an Australian drag race driver named Troy Critchley? He’s a professional race driver and yet he still managed to lose control of his car on a main road and killed 6 bystanders at a charity event in the US in 2007.

If a professional driver is able to get into a situation like this, how can you honestly say that what you are doing isn’t dangerous?

FFS… The bloke who was arrested was running from the police. Why? Because he was caught in the process of doing a burnout in a stolen 300ZX. The police gave chase on foot, and when the caught up with the offender, the offender allegedly held some scissors up to a policemans throat. A breif struggle ensued involving several officers and the suspect. The police may have been a bit heavy handed in dealing with the man (throwing him at a woden fence several times etc) but given the fact that the suspect was still in posession of several impliments that could inflict harm to them, in their eyes it was obviously justified. I am not defending the actions of either party. I am an active participant in Rushhour, and am not the biggest fan of any “authority group” particularly the police. The problem we now face in the eyes of the police and the public is that Rushhour will now be asscoiated with Drugs (the thief was allegedly carrying some marijuana), stolen vehicles and violence. All we are is a group of young people with nowhere to enjoy our passion. Yes we congrigrate in large public areas, yes we have loud, modified cars. We dont drink, dont do drugs, do not steal cars and any other shit you people can dream up. We DO NOT street race! And if you think we do, prove it or shut up. We do however do burnouts. Yes, it is negligent driving. Yes it is illegal. We are aware we are braking the law. In our defence, we do it in areas far from the public eye, where no one can get injured. Burnouts are not dangerous.

Just to make things clear, the guy that was arrested was not a part of our group. We do not condone his actions or even know how he ended up with us. Had we known that the car was stolen, would have told him to leave. As far as I’m concerned, he got what he deserved. Now we just need the legal system to smack him on the wrist, give him a lolly pop and send him on his merry way.

Ingeegoodbee said :

Tough skin is needed on this site, but that comment is bordering on down right offensive.

So your’re suggesting that there’s an acceptable level of numbers of kiddie porn aficianados in the police force?

Unfortunately paedeophiles come from all walks of life – but any excuse to have a go at the AFP, eh?

I think you’ll find there’s probably just as many, if not more, plumbers, child care workers, mechanics, airline pilots, lawyers, shop assistants, school teachers, priests, firemen, military personnel, doctors, electricians, etc, who have been caught involved in this grubby crime.

Maybe the Police spoke to the bloke, did an investigation and then as result charged him? Just finished work is a lame excuse…

Palm Island, Tooks?

Have u ever been into kowen forest… its car park for goodness sakes do u really thing we are gona get 150 car in there doing street racing… I don’t think so…u wouldn’t even get 100 metre before slaming on the brakes… if u went u would see that everybody is pretty responcable when the burnouts are going on… every1 stays clear and 99% are up on the hill away from danger… there has only ever been 2 fights that I know of at Rushhour but they got broken up before it got out of hand and they settled there differences n we got on with the night… somebody said the 21yr old man ‘come ready for a theft’ how do they no he didn’t just finish work and headed straight out with his tools still in his car?

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Nice bit of fiction there. Got any links or articles? Any kind of evidence? If police get caught doing this sort of thing all the time, you should be able to post some evidence.

Do I get an apology for being accused of writing fiction now? Or would you like to cop (ha) to a lame excuse like ‘oh, that’s overseas, never happens here, we’re all angels?’ Because I can go pull up a bunch of links about police brutality in Australia too if you like. Or you could get off your lazy ‘bring me a video’ butt and Google them yourself.

I don’t have a problem with ‘the police’, and I’ve never personally had a problem with a police officer. I have a problem with ‘some police’ – those who think they’re judge, jury and executioner and who think they’re above the laws they’re meant to uphold.

No apology, but thanks for posting some links. You couldn’t find any local examples, so you had to get the overseas ones.

If you’re going to use overseas examples, why not talk about the rampant bribery in Thailand, or the corruption in any number of countries? As this is a Canberra site and we’re talking about Canberra police, I assumed you were talking about Canberra police. How silly of me.

bear90 said :

… the only peoples lives that are in risk is those that attend and they all attend knowing the risks and accept them… nobody drinks and drives as every breath test ever done at rushhour out of up 2 150 cars all drivers have tested negative even the coppers have confirmed that!… none of u have the right 2 judge us until u have attened one of our ‘criminal gathering’ and see what its like!

That’s not really the point though, is it? Do you think the fact that everyone knows the risks and accepts them will save you if you seriously injure or kill someone while doing burnouts, or other stupid behaviour?

Having spoken to someone who has attended these things on numerous occasions, there have been (minor) prangs, burnouts, fights etc. Not to mention the stolen car from the other night, offensive weapon etc.

If none of you drinks and drives, great. Shame about the rest of the behaviour though.

if you don’t street race, bear90, then what do you do on lonely roads where generals (i assume you meant ‘general public’) don’t frequent? if you meet and drive legally, why choose spots that will not be otherwise trafficked? methinks there is something awry with your version of events…

Ingeegoodbee is a grub who has previously been made to give a grovelling apology to another person on this site due to similar comments. He is a sloooow learner, but this should be expected from an internet hard man who doesn’t have the balls to confront people anywhere but in cyberspace.

This is the ‘man’ who went to a business, got poor service, but instead of complaining to their faces, chose to go home and ring them to yell abuse. What a hero. A true e-thug.

Didn’t you have to eat humble pie regarding this topic that you seem focused on. You are a leech.

Nice bit of fiction there. Got any links or articles? Any kind of evidence? If police get caught doing this sort of thing all the time, you should be able to post some evidence.

Here one from the UK last month: G20 police officer said he wanted to ‘beat up hippies’ on Facebook

Here’s one from the US a month earlier: Suspect Freed After Exposing Cop’s Facebook Status

Do I get an apology for being accused of writing fiction now? Or would you like to cop (ha) to a lame excuse like ‘oh, that’s overseas, never happens here, we’re all angels?’ Because I can go pull up a bunch of links about police brutality in Australia too if you like. Or you could get off your lazy ‘bring me a video’ butt and Google them yourself.

What stance is that? The one that lets police arrest people for possessing drugs, carrying a weapon, and stealing a car?

No, the stance that says it’s ok for the police to beat people for something as trivial as ‘gobbing off’. But you knew that, didn’t you? Back to putting plastic pegs in buckets for you, my special friend.

I don’t have a problem with ‘the police’, and I’ve never personally had a problem with a police officer. I have a problem with ‘some police’ – those who think they’re judge, jury and executioner and who think they’re above the laws they’re meant to uphold.

Tough skin is needed on this site, but that comment is bordering on down right offensive.

So your’re suggesting that there’s an acceptable level of numbers of kiddie porn aficianados in the police force?

A 21-year-old Ainslie man was taken into custody charged with possession of cannabis, possessing an offensive weapon, and going equipped for a theft. He will appear in the ACT Magistrates Court on May 25,2009.

Possessing an offensive weapon? Going equipped for theft? Essential items at a “burnout” one would imagine.

Ah well, if this poor battered soul can drag himself from his hospital bed on the 25 th, then maybe he can claim; “It was all a fit up Guv. I need the flick knife to shell oysters for my dear mother’s lunch, and the jemmy is essential for getting into ones apartment as the door sticks. Those Rozzers didn’t half give me a beating for nothing, rather unfair of them one would say.”

And, of course, all the good citizens who attended this “burnout” can be there, like a Greek chorus, to substantiate his tales of woe.

how many times does it have 2 be said… there is NO street racing at Rush Hour… believe it or not we chose places where the general don’t normally go at 9pm… how many of u have actually heard of kowen forest?… its a place nobody would go at night unless they where going ‘parking’ or something… its completely out of the way of the public and houses… the only peoples lives that are in risk is those that attend and they all attend knowing the risks and accept them… nobody drinks and drives as every breath test ever done at rushhour out of up 2 150 cars all drivers have tested negative even the coppers have confirmed that!… none of u have the right 2 judge us until u have attened one of our ‘criminal gathering’ and see what its like!

Ingeegoodbee said :

Nice bit of fiction there. Got any links or articles? Any kind of evidence? If police get caught doing this sort of thing all the time, you should be able to post some evidence. Where are these Facebook profiles you mentioned? Which police officer is on record as saying it’s okay to lose your temper?

I guess kiddie porn is more their thing. Less chance of a struggle.

Tough skin is needed on this site, but that comment is bordering on down right offensive.

I guess kiddie porn is more their thing. Less chance of a struggle.

What? Huh?

Ingeegoodbee said :

Nice bit of fiction there. Got any links or articles? Any kind of evidence? If police get caught doing this sort of thing all the time, you should be able to post some evidence. Where are these Facebook profiles you mentioned? Which police officer is on record as saying it’s okay to lose your temper?

I guess kiddie porn is more their thing. Less chance of a struggle.

WTF? You are a fool.

Any bets redvl got a defect or had their vehicle seized?

WMC – “They foolishly boast about it on their Facebook profiles, which makes them look more than a bit stupid in court.”

That was once in the USA (LAPD or NYPD from memory) so how does that apply here? Are you grasping at straws again? Seems like you just need a teaspoon of cement and chip-remover and you’ll be fine.

Nice bit of fiction there. Got any links or articles? Any kind of evidence? If police get caught doing this sort of thing all the time, you should be able to post some evidence. Where are these Facebook profiles you mentioned? Which police officer is on record as saying it’s okay to lose your temper?

I guess kiddie porn is more their thing. Less chance of a struggle.

bigfeet – I agree. More details required from RedVL (drive a red VL by any chance?). You can’t just say “OMG I saw Police bashing a man” and expect to be taken seriously (which you’re obviously not if this post is anything to go by, but well done in getting to #44 post without even offering anything that resembles a detailed version of events.)

WMC – video cameras aside, civilian 1 reports an assault by civilian 2. I’d be surprised if Police could get away without even an attempt to find out if there were any witnesses or further evidence. Failing that..all you have is c1 v c2 – enough to charge c2? In most cases, methinks not.

BTW WMC – Rodney King comment…only a matter of time…pathetic. I’m surprised redvl didn’t pull that one out in the original post, given his/her obvious lack of intellect.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

I find it very hard to believe that a cop would risk his or her career for a bit of a ‘bash’.

Do you live in a sheltered workshop or something? Police get caught doing this sort of thing all the time. They foolishly boast about it on their Facebook profiles, which makes them look more than a bit stupid in court. They’re here on the record stating that it’s OK to ‘lose your temper’ and penalise somebody, even beat them, for failing ‘the attitude test’. I guess I’m more amazed that there are others here supporting this stance.

Nice bit of fiction there. Got any links or articles? Any kind of evidence? If police get caught doing this sort of thing all the time, you should be able to post some evidence. Where are these Facebook profiles you mentioned? Which police officer is on record as saying it’s okay to lose your temper?

Stupidest comment I’ve seen for a while.

Woody – If by ‘sheltered workshop’ you mean ‘the real world’ then yes, that is where i live.

You obviously have issues with the police, so by all means stick by your guns and never, ever call them if you need help. If you do ever have to call them, make sure you have a video device handy.

They’re here on the record stating that it’s OK to ‘lose your temper’ and penalise somebody, even beat them, for failing ‘the attitude test’.

So you know what happened? Where exactly is that ‘on the record’? Please, tell us everything…

I guess I’m more amazed that there are others here supporting this stance.

What stance is that? The one that lets police arrest people for possessing drugs, carrying a weapon, and stealing a car?

I find it very hard to believe that a cop would risk his or her career for a bit of a ‘bash’.

Do you live in a sheltered workshop or something? Police get caught doing this sort of thing all the time. They foolishly boast about it on their Facebook profiles, which makes them look more than a bit stupid in court. They’re here on the record stating that it’s OK to ‘lose your temper’ and penalise somebody, even beat them, for failing ‘the attitude test’. I guess I’m more amazed that there are others here supporting this stance.

Woody I just expect SOME evidence. Mr Redvl has come up with nothing.

I was waiting for somebody to drag out this tired argument. “Nobody got it on camera – it mustn’t have happened!” Lack of video evidence is now evidence, in police la-la land, anyway. I could just as easily say “Where’s the police video evidence to show they used proper force? There isn’t any? Well, that proves they beat him!” (Why don’t you carry cameras? You can get a HD unit the size of a calculator these days for a couple of hundred bucks.)

Out of curiosity – let’s say I witness a police officer beating somebody Rodney King-style. I don’t own a camera phone. What sort of evidence would you expect me to provide? Even if I get the victim to come forward (unlikely), what’s to stop you saying ‘legitimate force’ and walking away? It’s my word against theirs that they were even there, and the decision about whose word to take is up to his copper mates.

Hey, forget coppers altogether – if one civilian assaults another, but somebody wasn’t there with a camera phone to do your job for you, do you just not bother investigating at all?

redvl said :

For the version of events the police have issued please read the Police Wrap – 15 May post. This is what my post is in regards to, and you will see for yourselves that at no point is it mentioned that excessive force was used to place the 21 year old suspect under arrest.

At least they have provided a version. You have just made a few innuendos.

You say “feel free to attack your suspect with all your’s and your fellow policeman’s might before actually placing your suspect under arrest”?

What does that mean? I imagine all your’s and your fellow policeman’s might being quite a lot. What? Pistol Whipping? Baton to Head? Holding him down and taking turns kicking him in the testicles? Holding him down to put handcuffs on? Dragging him to the waiting paddy wagon? Giving him a stern talking to?

before actually placing your suspect under arrest? or whilst placing the suspect under arrest?

If you’ve got a tale to tell…just tell it.

Again, what did the suspect do at the time that required the police to use force? I look forward to hearing all sides of the story.

It seems the Rush Hour group wasn’t on a charity toy run at the time.

Was your mate the one with the weapon…?

Police believe the group was engaged in burnouts and street racing at the location. A 21-year-old Ainslie man was taken into custody charged with possession of cannabis, possessing an offensive weapon, and going equipped for a theft.

Or the one with a stolen vehicle?

A stolen motor vehicle, a Nissan 300X sports coupe registered in Victoria, was recovered from the location.

For the version of events the police have issued please read the Police Wrap – 15 May post. This is what my post is in regards to, and you will see for yourselves that at no point is it mentioned that excessive force was used to place the 21 year old suspect under arrest.

Oh, and I’m sure somewhere in their little rule book it says that force can be used when they (the police) or someone else (perhaps you?) is in danger.

redvl – I can’t help but think that there is a crucial part of this story missing. Between ‘police had reason to place the suspect under arrest’ and in your own words ‘police bashed the absolute crap out of (said suspect)’ – what went down?

I find it very hard to believe that a cop would risk his or her career for a bit of a ‘bash’.

I personally think it is irrelevant who your group is, what you were doing, where you were gathering, and whether you feel that all concerned was acting in a responsible and charitable manner – it appears that one of your peers acted in a manner that resulted in police using force.

I really despair at how worked up people on both sides get about stories like this. And anyone who believes anything that a police media unit disseminates has rocks in their head…I know coz I used to work in one!

The alleged victim can officially report the incident. There should have been plenty of witnesses to provide some clarity to what ever happened.

I’ve heard similar stories about the AFP herding car enthusiasts into churches, throwing grenades in amongst them, and then setting fire to the church and burning the survivors alive. Apparently this happens every weekend in Canberra. THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD!!!!!!!!!!

Redvl, I hope you didn’t come on here expecting any sympathy? This site gets heaps of these kinds of stories, and quite frankly, I think most people on here have become a little cynical about them now. I guess we’ll all just have to wait until it comes up before Court to find out all the details and if any Police are charged for excessive use of force.

I’ve just finished reading all of your comments, and I thank you for your contributions. As a matter of fact this particular event was witnessed but as it is a legal matter you will have to forgive my vagueness. I did also make the point known that the police did have reason to place the suspect under arrest. The point I was trying to get across was the fact that the event didn’t even rate a mention in the local news unlike every other time the police attend any of the “criminal gatherings” as referred to by BIGFEET and report the fact that x amount of motorists were gathered in a public area(last I checked this did not qualify as a “criminal gathering”), and breath tests were performed on all drivers without a single driver found to be over the limit.
To address AGS request to be convinced

Ags said :

that this ‘rush hour’ is anything but a hoons club, I would like to take this opportunity to inform you that the club also holds cruises for charities to help raise much needed funds. For instance the next cruise for charity is to raise funds for the NICU(Newborn Intensive Care Unit) and the goal amount is $180,000 with the help of sponsors and participants.

It’s funny how the police statement regarding the event is a lot more believable and credible..

Special G said :

Most Police expect to be caught on camera/video these days should they take any sort of action at a group gathering. Footage then ends up on Youtube or news media.

Agreed – REDVL are you saying no-one in the club has a camera phone, and either took footage of the event as it occurred or the “injuries” afterwards?

As they say on the interwebs “Photos – or it never happened”.

Diddums. That’s what happens when you act like a tool, gob off to the police (who were no doubt sick of the lot of you the minute they arrived) and resist arrest and/or have a go at the police in an attempt to look like a hero in front of the rest of the gang ….er….. club.

By the way, I have never heard of your club. I suspect your claim to fame maybe nothing more than the self-delusion.

Awww, poor dears. Did someone get a bit gobby and suddenly find themselves out of their depth?

Well said Thumper.

Why is it that we complain the Courts and the Police don’t do enough. Some threads have mentioned to bring back the old days when the cops did a bit of justice themselves.

I got a little bit and like to think I grew up alright.

These days the hands of the cops are tied to tight so when the opprotunity is there to a deserving customer….. let them have it I say.

That or the crook gets to make the cops look stupid and not allowed to respond to his action.

Nosey, nobody deserves to be beaten, especially not by those who we rely on for protection. Assault by a police officer is on the worser side of the crimes scale.

I agree and that is why I said “man handling”, not “beaten”.

Woody I just expect SOME evidence. Mr Redvl has come up with nothing.

What happened – did he get kneed, punched, sprayed, batoned, wrestled to the ground – all legitimate use of force techniques the Police can use to effect an arrest should they be required to.

Most Police expect to be caught on camera/video these days should they take any sort of action at a group gathering. Footage then ends up on Youtube or news media.

Redvl needs to go to court and listen to the charges to find out what sort of people he/she is hanging out with.

Hey McFly!!!

Marty’s going undercover to bust them all.

Sorry, “nem” should obvioulsy be “new”

You don’t have a nem member by the name of Marty do you?

LOL…. it’s all a conspiracy ????!!!!

There are loads of avenues for you to make a complaint and have it investigated.

Previous thread : –> http://the-riotact.com/?p=8842

It sucks that your friend got beaten up, but I don’t know if it is really ‘police corruption’.

Unless the police where beating up your car club so that another car club could do business!

Let me just correct a few mistakes in your original post for you.

Why is it that there is always something negative to say when the car club group of criminals named “Rush Hour” meets, but there has been nothing reported about the Canberra Police who attended last nights meeting criminal gathering of the before mentioned car club group of criminals bashing the absolute crap out of one of the people scum who attended this gathering put the lives of the public at risk due to their own illegal behaviour.

Now, if someone was assaulted it should be investigated. But let’s not pretend this was a peaceful gathering of vehicle enthusiasts.

Have you lodged a complaint?

On the other hand, sometimes they stuff up and let their tempers get the better of them and assault people.

And in those cases, they should be charged like anybody else. “Sorry, I let my temper get the better of me” would carry exactly zero weight if a group of civilians decided they were going to kick the cr.p out of a cop.

You don’t have to be ‘with us or agin us’.

So you’re saying you’re ‘with’ cops who break the law they’re supposed to uphold? Sorry if I’m making it too ‘black and white’ for you – I know the police (sorry, Police – don’t tase me, bro) prefer it to be grey when it suits them.

Post the footage or shut up.

Hope you expect the same standard of evidence from everybody who makes a claim of assault, not just against one of your own.

+1 Ags.

If a friend of yours has been assaulted, you need to look at the legal and police complaint avenues. You’re not going to get any further here without proof.

Nosey, nobody deserves to be beaten, especially not by those who we rely on for protection. Assault by a police officer is on the worser side of the crimes scale.

I would bet all I have and say he deserved what he got.

A little bit of man handling might turn the so called boy into a man.

I love cars, always have, but people who thinks its OK to speed on local streets and do burnouts piss me off. Please REDVL convince me that this ‘rush hour’ is anything but a hoons club.

Post #1 is also to be taken into considerstion. If this bashed person is telling the truth then they should persue legal action. After all, if you do nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.

Ozhair said :

Isn’t Rush Hour the “car club” that gets together to do burnouts and drag race on public roads? I think we’ve had threads on them before.

If they are, then may I take this opportunity to thank the police for beating seven shades of *beep* out of them, and wish the police all the best for future beatings.

Is it possible to sponsor a police baton or pepper spray for these events?

Post the footage or shut up.

p1 said :

Are they all Jackie Chan fans or what?

Yes.

They also rather multi-cultural and have a soft spot for Chris Tucker.

They drive around singing War & Peace’s War song.

Isn’t Rush Hour the “car club” that gets together to do burnouts and drag race on public roads? I think we’ve had threads on them before.

Would you care to translate what you have said into something meaningful? I’ve been to multiple car club meets in Canberra over the years and we have never once had a problem with police…

Are they all Jackie Chan fans or what?

Forgive my ignorance (I’ve been away for a decade) but what is the rush hour car club and what sort of cars are in the club???

Yeah sure thing this happened. Jerk.

here we go…yawn

accusations too..

Firstly, I think you’re trying to imply the police “bashed” someone at some car club meeting? It’s hard to translate your post into something that makes sense in the english language.

Secondly do you have any evidence of this? or just come online to make wild acusations? If you do have evidence or want to make a complaint, do it through the official channels rather than posting crap on here.

Sounds like they were resisting arrest and have an additional charge to deal with now.

Here is a novel idea for this site… Sometimes the police do a really good job and work hard protecting the community. On the other hand, sometimes they stuff up and let their tempers get the better of them and assault people. I have seen both sides many times. The ridiculous idea that police are either always good or always bad is just plain dumb. This nonsense is continually argued on this site by a collection of usual suspects, and it is just so stupid and boring. All things need to be taken on their merits. You don’t have to be ‘with us or agin us’. Life is much more complicated. It would be good if both sides would remember this.