Police bash man

redvl 15 May 2009 102

Why is it that there is always something negative to say when the car club named “Rush Hour” meets, but there has been nothing reported about the Canberra Police who attended last nights meeting of the before mentioned car club bashing the absolute crap out of one of the people who attended this gathering?

So much for the police corruption of the old days not existing anymore. Any person caught bashing another person would be up on charges, and the matter would at least have a short mention in the news.

But obviously the police have a different way of dealing with the matter when they’re the ones doing the bashing.

Yes they had reason to place the suspect under arrest but where in their little rule book does it say “feel free to attack your suspect with all your’s and your fellow policeman’s might before actually placing your suspect under arrest”?


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farq farq 1:14 pm 19 May 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

….I was waiting for somebody to drag out this tired argument. “Nobody got it on camera – it mustn’t have happened!” Lack of video evidence is now evidence…

You make a very good point WMC.

Still with the history of this clubs interactions with the police, you would expect them to be taking some steps to help themselves.

farq farq 12:59 pm 19 May 09

Tooks said :

Lol. Was wondering where you were 🙂

Nice to know I have been missed.

To the OP, without reading the entire 100 messages (TL;DR): My question would be, was the incident filmed on a mobile phone? I thought everyone under 30 carried them everywhere.

If the pigs are harassing your car club, I would suggest you guys arm yourselves with lots of cameras to ensure their good behaviour.

And post some footage of some reverse j turns. They are really cool to watch (and take a little more skill than boring line locks and circle work!).

peterh peterh 9:37 am 19 May 09

bear90 said :

Whodunit – like I already said we know the risks we take when we do what we do!… and yer its a public carpark but its not an intersection in the middle of town near familys!…

maybe, just spitballing here, you could pick up the cr@p you drop after you finish your “gathering”? Might make a few families much more supportive of what you want to do. Leaving the place like a tip site doesn’t endear them to you.

bear90 bear90 11:00 pm 18 May 09

Whodunit – like I already said we know the risks we take when we do what we do!… and yer its a public carpark but its not an intersection in the middle of town near familys!…

Clown Killer Clown Killer 9:42 pm 18 May 09

That seems like a fair appraisal of the situation Special G. Not much more to say really.

Special G Special G 7:35 pm 18 May 09

If the bloke pulled a pair of scissors then the cop would have been justified in shooting him until he was very dead. Not just a little bit dead but all the way. If the only thing he copped was a beating whilst I dare say he was probably resisting arrest then he got off lucky.

There are plenty of options available to Police which from an outsiders perspective may look a bit harsh but think on this:

Is the Police officer there to engage in a fair fight or is the Police officer there to effect an arrest using minimal force ensuring HIS/HERS and any other persons safety.

Cops are not there to get hurt locking some wanker up who wants to fight and if they have to belt someone to ensure that they don’t get hurt then fine by me.

Sleaz274 Sleaz274 6:46 pm 18 May 09

Well for mine and after the recent posts about the absolute failure of our judiciary again I say maybe a bit of contact counselling was well and due. Good work lads. Fear and respect go a long way.

Whodunit Whodunit 6:18 pm 18 May 09

bear90 said :

Have u ever been into kowen forest… its car park for goodness sakes do u really thing we are gona get 150 car in there doing street racing… I don’t think so…u wouldn’t even get 100 metre before slaming on the brakes… if u went u would see that everybody is pretty responcable when the burnouts are going on… every1 stays clear and 99% are up on the hill away from danger… there has only ever been 2 fights that I know of at Rushhour but they got broken up before it got out of hand and they settled there differences n we got on with the night… somebody said the 21yr old man ‘come ready for a theft’ how do they no he didn’t just finish work and headed straight out with his tools still in his car?

Bear – YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! For a start, burnouts are not safe, they are illegal in a public place… Hmmm I guess that means Kowan forest. I guess he went straight from work with screwdrivers in his pocket. I do that all the time, don’t you? I have on good advice from someone in the know that the dude that got arrested pulled out a pair of scissors when fronted by the cop… I suggest he got what he deserved. As for a police beating, wasn’t there heaps of cops there? Then if that was the case how come only one of them made the arrest.. I’m sure if it was a bashing they would have all jumped in and had a dig. Rodney King style as you all suggest. For you that say it is an innocent gather for car enthusiests what about the poor folk who had to attend the next day to clean up all your mess…. Your hundreds of empty rum cans, your shredded tyres, not to mention the damage you caused to the road surface. I’m sure all the families who attended Kowan on the weekend appreciated all your crap….

Spideydog Spideydog 5:07 pm 18 May 09

mchoonwithcheese said :

FFS… The bloke who was arrested was running from the police. Why? Because he was caught in the process of doing a burnout in a stolen 300ZX. The police gave chase on foot, and when the caught up with the offender, the offender allegedly held some scissors up to a policemans throat. A breif struggle ensued involving several officers and the suspect. The police may have been a bit heavy handed in dealing with the man (throwing him at a woden fence several times etc) but given the fact that the suspect was still in posession of several impliments that could inflict harm to them, in their eyes it was obviously justified. I am not defending the actions of either party. I am an active participant in Rushhour, and am not the biggest fan of any “authority group” particularly the police. The problem we now face in the eyes of the police and the public is that Rushhour will now be asscoiated with Drugs (the thief was allegedly carrying some marijuana), stolen vehicles and violence. All we are is a group of young people with nowhere to enjoy our passion. Yes we congrigrate in large public areas, yes we have loud, modified cars. We dont drink, dont do drugs, do not steal cars and any other shit you people can dream up. We DO NOT street race! And if you think we do, prove it or shut up. We do however do burnouts. Yes, it is negligent driving. Yes it is illegal. We are aware we are braking the law. In our defence, we do it in areas far from the public eye, where no one can get injured. Burnouts are not dangerous.

Just to make things clear, the guy that was arrested was not a part of our group. We do not condone his actions or even know how he ended up with us. Had we known that the car was stolen, would have told him to leave. As far as I’m concerned, he got what he deserved. Now we just need the legal system to smack him on the wrist, give him a lolly pop and send him on his merry way.

Give this person some credit. It was brave of him to come out and give this view.

Tooks Tooks 5:00 pm 18 May 09

farq said :

sorry I’m late.

grrr, bloddy pigs etc.

Lol. Was wondering where you were 🙂

farq farq 3:52 pm 18 May 09

sorry I’m late.

grrr, bloddy pigs etc.

maxy maxy 2:25 pm 18 May 09

peterh said :

rush hour people: why don’t you speak to the police about using the skid pan area at majura? if your vehicles are street legal, there shouldn’t be a problem, and the area is designed to ensure that no-one gets hurt whilst watching the action.
Yeah what an absolutely awesome idea…. Pity we’ve already had that idea ourselves and done just that. But been knocked back by the way. All we need/want is a dragway and the sooner the government gives us one all this nonsense will stop. This may come as a surprise to you all but the police are actually in agreement with us about the dragway. They realise we have no where to go and appreciate that we go to out of the places, just like we appreciate the fact that they are only doing their jobs when they get called out to our meet spot.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 11:42 am 18 May 09

Granny said :

pusilanimity

That’s the most awesome word I’ve seen in a long time.

peterh peterh 11:42 am 18 May 09

Granny said :

DJ said :

Go back to where you came from if you don’t like it… unless where you’re from they held a gun to your head and made you come here.

Heck, the ‘real men’ all come from Barry Ottor’s ‘real state’ and ‘real police’ too. None of these plastic ones. And real chickens and real dogs and stuff, don’tcha know? They even have ‘real wimmin’ there ….

We’re just not good enough here in Canberra. Bazza’s better’n all of us. Bigger ‘n’ tuffer ‘n’ smarter ‘n’ all. And realer too. Really really really real. We all fade into pusilanimity next to a real thing like Barry Ottor.

are you saying he is really real?

Granny Granny 11:37 am 18 May 09

DJ said :

Go back to where you came from if you don’t like it… unless where you’re from they held a gun to your head and made you come here.

Heck, the ‘real men’ all come from Barry Ottor’s ‘real state’ and ‘real police’ too. None of these plastic ones. And real chickens and real dogs and stuff, don’tcha know? They even have ‘real wimmin’ there ….

We’re just not good enough here in Canberra. Bazza’s better’n all of us. Bigger ‘n’ tuffer ‘n’ smarter ‘n’ all. And realer too. Really really really real. We all fade into pusilanimity next to a real thing like Barry Ottor.

peterh peterh 11:10 am 18 May 09

rush hour people: why don’t you speak to the police about using the skid pan area at majura? if your vehicles are street legal, there shouldn’t be a problem, and the area is designed to ensure that no-one gets hurt whilst watching the action.

I occasionally go to kowen, booroomba and other sites around canberra, and I have been overtaken by idiots on the road – your members may think it is fine to cut off another car when the overtaking attempt is confronted by an oncoming car, I don’t. I work out at several properties and will sometimes work well past sunset. The majura site would be ideal for you, just need to convince the police that it is a good idea??

DJ DJ 10:14 am 18 May 09

barry ottor said :

I suppose i better add ‘very insecure’ to the list too, DJ!

So it would seem. Go back to where you came from if you don’t like it… unless where you’re from they held a gun to your head and made you come here.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 9:58 am 18 May 09

barry ottor said :

It would seem like the term ‘plastic police’ really does apply down here. Try doing the job in a real state before you go on about how tough you are boys.

So your argument is that there’s not enough crime in the ACT? You’d like more, would you?

barry ottor barry ottor 9:54 am 18 May 09

I suppose i better add ‘very insecure’ to the list too, DJ!

bundyone bundyone 8:09 am 18 May 09

Unless they knew three Australian 24 hour mountain bike championships were held in Kowen forest, and it’s still a relatively popular spot for a night ride.

In the part of Kowen that we meet is nowhere near where the races are held or where night riders are going to be.

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