Proof speed cameras work!

lemaChet 10 October 2007 54

So, in Todays CT, there is an article entitled “204 reasons for speed cameras”
(I apologise for the dodgy image, and the lack of link, and the paraphrasing.. I only glanced quickly through the article.)

Anyway, so, a stolen car was snapped at the new speed cameras on the parkway, doing 204Km/h.
This, apparently, proves that speed cameras work, and that we need more.

Personally, I feel that it proves they don’t, as if you want to speed, you’re going to any way, as the driver of this (albeit stolen) car has demonstrated.

Thoughts ?

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54 Responses to Proof speed cameras work!
swamiOFswank swamiOFswank 6:29 pm 11 Oct 07

A couple of young car-theiving miscreants who are frequent-flyers at Quamby that I know have bragged about stealing cars, joyriding at high speed through camera zones and then quietly returning the car to where it was parked before – with the express purpose of racking up fines for some poor bastard who’ll have no hope of proving it wasn’t him.

You’ve been warned!

Jazz Jazz 5:01 pm 11 Oct 07

I challenge people to try a little experiment next time you are driving around and see either a speed camera, or more particularly a mobile camera van.

whats the first thing you do? (i look at my speedo). what are you not doing while looking at your speedo (not watching the road)

ergo, speed cameras are actually a road saftey hazzard.

RAGD RAGD 11:03 am 11 Oct 07

I know it doesn’t really add to the debate, but does anyone know what model car it was? Can’t really tell from the pic on this site.

It’s just that I have driven near 200 Km on a track and it’s pretty damn scary. Doing over it on the parkway in a pretty crappy car (from what it looks like) is crazy and stupid. But then again people who steal cars aren’t the brightest are they?

hingo_VRCalaisV6 hingo_VRCalaisV6 10:28 am 11 Oct 07


The only place speed cameras have an effect on speeding are the areas which have them. People will speed up again after the zone. Therefore it would make more sense to have them in school zones. Its not rocket surgery, but I’m sure you’ll have another nice comeback which involves calling me a “dickhead” or “selfish”. I’m just stating the facts. I’m not blind, I do a lot of driving and witness these driving habits every day. Don’t take it to heart.

Thumper Thumper 10:26 am 11 Oct 07

People only slow down when they see a camera, then they speed up again.

therefore it makes sense to place them outside schools

Actually, that reminds me of an interesting experiment that US cops did. They blew up lifesize photos of a cop and a bike and placed them on highways. Apparently it worked wonders for speed control.

And punters didn’t know which was a real cop and which was a cardboard cut out.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 8:46 am 11 Oct 07

And, by the way, why does putting speed cameras is school zones make sense if, as you keep on saying, they don’t have any effect on speeding?

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 8:45 am 11 Oct 07

Soon they’ll be cheap enough to stick ’em on every major and arterial road, like CCTV coverage in the UK. In 20 years, with next-gen OnStar-like technology, your car will gently pull over at the next available place on the side of the road, deduct the fine from your account, cancel your license and then switch itself off. I can’t wait.

Thumper Thumper 8:38 am 11 Oct 07

I think I already said something along those lines VY.

And yeah, it makes heaps of sense.

VYBerlinaV8...the_original_and_best VYBerlinaV8...the_original_and_best 8:30 am 11 Oct 07

If we really feel the need to put speed cameras somewhere, put them in school zones. Kids are much more likely to run onto to road in front of school than to charge out onto the parkway.

Thumper Thumper 8:12 am 11 Oct 07


I was talking about your suburban back streets, you know, the ones where kids play cricket on the road, dogs run around, tennis balls bounce across with kids chasing after them?

I’d happily see those streets dropped to 40 klicks and cameras set up there.

But some of the places the cameras are in defy logic.

cranky cranky 8:05 am 11 Oct 07

For the first time in ages, I travelled on the Barton Highway from Northbourne Ave to the Cemetary exit. As I approached the speed camera signs, it dawned on me that I had not seen a sign advising me of the limit on this road, unless it was back near Northbourne.
Can any regular user confirm this? Not too flash to set up cameras without advising the limit.

bd84 bd84 9:16 pm 10 Oct 07

It would almost be worth it! Going and stealing a car and then taking it for a spin at 200km/hr past a few speed cameras. I’ll get the picture of my achievements in the paper something to stick to the fridge to brag about, yet they wouldn’t be able to tell it was me. Why? speed cameras don’t have wheels and red and blue flashing lights to follow me and pull me over, I could even do it numerous times! But they would still have a lovely picture of the back of the car, but if/when the real police do catch up with the driver, he most likely won’t be charged.. they can’t prove he was the driver going past that camera now can they?

Whilst these people are having fun in stolen cars, the rest of us continue on our merry way slowing down for 200m to smile for the camera then back up to speed, of course occasionally smiling and waving for the people who go flying past in those 200m.

Does that prove the cameras work now?
hmm right.. not really hey..

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 8:44 pm 10 Oct 07

How do you explain the split two lane Barton Highway where it is easily safe enough to do 100kmh but they have reduced it to 80Kmh and thrown in a speed camera. The road is wide and dead straight! If there was ever a camera set up to bring in money, its that one.

Which part of the Barton Hwy are you talking about? The first part from Northbourne Ave heading towards Hall has traffic from Ellenbourough St entering the highway and then further up has traffic entering from GDE.

Coming the other way from Hall towards Northbourne Ave you have traffic entering/crossing the highway from Kuringa Drive (there was a bad truck accident there a couple of months ago) and more traffic entering/crossing the highway from Curran Dr,Gold Creek Rd and occasionally Bellenden St. Randwick Rd is controlled by traffic lights so it doesn’t count as a danger zone and William Slim Dr/Gundaroo Dr has a roundabout that controls traffic (even though there are regular accidents there I believe they are caused by driver error not speed).

I’m not agreeing with speed cameras (see my previous posts!), just giving reasons why parts of the Barton Highway is an 80km/h zone.

Years ago before the William Slim roundabout and before Gungahlin was built the Barton Highway (“Mad Mile” was the unofficial name of it!) used to be a virtual race track with hoons taking their hotted up cars for high speed runs down there trying to wind their speedo off the clock. As Canberra became more populated and Gungahlin was in it’s early stages this type of behaviour was deemed to be very dangerous to the increased number of other road users. Lower speed limits and then later, speed cameras were seen to be the fix.

V twin venom V twin venom 12:59 pm 10 Oct 07

Who would like to wager that the owner of the car recieves an infringement notice?

Thumper Thumper 12:46 pm 10 Oct 07



Snahons_scv6_berlina Snahons_scv6_berlina 12:38 pm 10 Oct 07

absolutely and whats more amusing is the mindless masses that believe what a politician tells them.

Thumper Thumper 12:31 pm 10 Oct 07

Ah, indeed.

However, we keep hearing from politicians that they are for road safety.

Which is crap.

Snahons_scv6_berlina Snahons_scv6_berlina 12:19 pm 10 Oct 07

Speed cameras do work. They are designed to take photo’s of moving cars which they do.

Extrapolating that to notions of “improved road safety” or “saves lives” is a little far fetched.

The concept of improved road safety implies safer roads but a stretch of road is only as safe as the drivers driving on it and safety devices within the vehicle (ie ABS,EBD,etc).

Road safety cannot be attributed to ensuring people drive within the ‘maximum’ legal speed as different conditions should dictate appropriate driving speeds. This is where speed cameras fail as a road safety device. They cannot distinguish poor driver behaviour vs good driver behaviour.

The only conclusion one make about speed cameras is as their name implies. They take photos to penalise drivers who exceed the maximum speed permitted. They are not called “Safety Cameras”.

hingo_VRCalaisV6 hingo_VRCalaisV6 11:58 am 10 Oct 07
calbelsam calbelsam 11:50 am 10 Oct 07

Where do you get the expanding foam that can be sprayed inside these boxes? Top Gear had a good idea

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