16 July 2024

Sad day for America, lessons for Australia

| Chris Johnson
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Donald Trump before his arraignment in April 2023. American democracy is under threat; Australia’s must be protected. Photo: Gabriel Awan.

Anthony Albanese has been quick to make a clear distinction between the growing number of increasingly violent attacks on federal MPs’ offices around the country and what happened on the weekend to a former United States president.

While the Prime Minister is correct in saying the assassination attempt on Donald Trump is a whole other level of political violence, he is also justified in noting that the incident has intensified concern here in Australia.

During an ABC Radio interview on Monday (15 July), Mr Albanese was asked if the attack on the former president and current contender makes him think about the risk to himself.

“Of course it does, and that’s just a fact,” he said.

“It’s a great thing that in Australia, by and large, politicians, including the Prime Minister, can wander about events and can walk around safely. .. But, of course, there is a heightened concern out there.

“Overwhelmingly here in Australia, we have a peaceful political process, and we have peaceful transitions of power … and that’s a good thing that we have here, and it’s important that we don’t take it for granted.

“It’s important that democracy be cherished. It is our great asset and we need to look for unity wherever we can; look for respectful disagreement.”

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The PM expressed concern that events such as splattering blood-coloured paint over an MP’s office, lighting fires outside of another MP’s office and smashing windows there, delivering suspect packages, etc – all of which have happened in Australia in the past weeks alone – could become “normalised”.

The political violence in Australia has elevated dramatically in recent times over the ongoing and tragic conflict in Gaza.

It has given rise to and emboldened both antisemitism and Islamophobia in this country – and MPs are being increasingly targeted.

“Different layers of violence can be seen as something that occurs,” Mr Albanese said before stressing that such violent acts disturb him.

“I’ve called it out. And there needs to be a stop to it because it is unacceptable,” he said.

But when pressed, the Prime Minister was very clear that what happened in the US is not comparable to the unrest here in Australia.

“I think we need to be very, very careful to draw a distinction between what is a violent act that we saw – for example, outside Josh Burns’ electorate office where it was very dangerous to light a fire. People live above that electorate office. The intimidation that’s occurred has not been good – but I don’t think we should draw a straight line between that and what we saw in the United States,” he said.

“[That] was, of course, a very different level. But it is a reminder, we just need to be able to have these discussions respectfully and based upon facts as well.”

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Let’s hope it really is a startling reminder of what this nation can slip to if the ugly side of political disagreement continues to rise.

Elections have become far more heated in this country than has usually been the case previously.

Extreme players – on the left and on the right – are engaging in bolder and uglier tactics.

Debate, particularly online, has turned to abuse in many instances.

Certainly, it remains a safer political environment here in Australia than in the US, the UK and far too many third-world countries.

But baby steps here are growing into longer strides towards a future we might not be able to so easily distinguish from the rest of the world if left unabated.

Personally, I think Donald Trump was the worst president the United States has ever seen and the prospect of him returning to the White House is the stuff of nightmares.

But it is sickening that someone tried to kill him while he was campaigning.

That should be unimaginable.

Unfortunately, it’s not so unimaginable in the United States.

We must somehow collectively become vigilant to ensure that that part of the American way isn’t further embraced here.

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Heywood Smith11:51 am 19 Jul 24

This has BIDEN written all over it. Win at all costs, alas, the world’s most corrupt president has failed yet again.

If reports are to be believed, the shooter was also researching Biden and Royals

@Futureproof
If facts are to be believed, Fp, he was a registered Republican voter … so what?

Heads must roll for the level of incompetence that almost saw the loss of one of the most important historic figures of our life time. However the next four years will be world-changing as Trump bans abortion, destroys the woke agenda, secures the borders and locks up illegal immigrants. Our choice of PM will be the type of person that can work effectively with America. The free world will finally be restored after decades of decay.

@Sam Oak
Hallelujah, Brother Oak! Sodom and Gomorrah shall experience god’s wrath.

Capital Retro12:01 pm 18 Jul 24

I think Trump was very shaken by it.
Is it called PTSD?
He may withdraw from politics and public life before the election and I wouldn’t blame him if he did.

From what I could see from both the footage and interviews of US-based protective services professionals, one agent couldn’t even holster their weapon properly, they didn’t drag him to the ground and keep him there, the roofs weren’t secured, a young guy with a 9 foot ladder and a firearm was able to in plain sight climb onto a non secured roof 130m away and despite the cops allegedly knowing about it, it still happened?

Tell me how that happens?

Capital Retro8:01 am 18 Jul 24

There are now reports emerging that indicate you could be right.

Capital Retro7:59 am 18 Jul 24

This incident is a lot like the attempted assassination of ALP leader Arthur Calwell in Sydney in 1966.

The perpetrator Peter Kocan told police after the attempted shooting that: “Unless I did something out of the ordinary I realized I would remain a nobody all my life. I came to the conclusion that however hard it was I would have to do something that would set me apart from other nobodies.”

It was nothing to do with politics.

Having viewed spectator footage pointing to the shooter on the roof and directing police on the ground to the shooter, I am of the opinion that mass sackings of officials need to occur. It doesn’t matter that it was Trump, it was amateurish security

It was actually so much of a failure that I totally understand people thinking the secret service were letting it happen.

Political violence stems from systemic injustices. Visible increase in tension means that more people are becoming frustrated with ongoing injustices, or, and probably most importantly in this day and age, that there is a ongoing perception of injustice that Politicians/government are not adequately addressing for the general public, but rather inflaming.

Extremism is rare. Mainstream society is pretty tolerant and reasonable. Politicians playing Political games and inflaming division is NOT rare.

Even here in this article Albanese focus on the acts of violence, not the causes. Without addressing the causes he and his government are ignoring the issues and hoping they’ll go away or shift blame to the individuals.

We need real leadership, we need our leaders to talk to Australian’s about Gaza, Israel, corporate greed, declining standards of living, furthering inequality- and – what levers our government can or cannot pull in these spaces. Be honest and reasonable, as much as a politician can be.

Tell us what our plan is and what country we are aimimg to be. There has been a 20 year decline in leadership in our country and this is not without consequence.

@L Anon
I don’t care what your beef is with modern day politics, in a democracy, there is no, and can never be, justification for violence.

In this instance a nutter, with whatever be is in his bonnet, has attempted to murder a political candidate, and in doing so, has murdered an onlooker. This is just a senseless loss of an innocent life.

By all means ask your questions and make demands of our politicians, but if you can’t do so peacefully, you have no place in democracy.

Never were the words of Voltaire (“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”) more appropriate.

Well I’m referring to Australia as that was what the article focused on.

American is not a democracy it’s a failed state.

@L Anon
Oh right – so you condone political violence in Australia then?

No I don’t condone political violence. I was pointing out the contributing factors to political violence. We need political leadership (not media soundbites) to temper it because holding extremist attitudes is quite rare but can flourish without leadership and connection with that leadership.

@L Anon
Albanese condemned this act of political violence in the US, as the leader of one of its (USA) allies and the leader of a democratic nation. I’d be interested to know what you think he should have done to temper “it” – whatever “it” is.

Those with the ‘extremist attitudes’ to which you refer are not rational nor able to be addressed through statesmanship. Such people are pathological and only respond to those who seek to wind them up and let them loose. There is no better example of this than the 6-Jan-2021 riots in Washington.

America is a republic, and while it has its faults, without it you would be likely speaking a different language, so be grateful for that…..

People here just don’t care about politics or politicians enough to do anything like this. Our politicians may think they are super important but people just don’t care, you see them around town all the time, boring people. If you saw a sports person then that’s different.
In any event this failed government couldn’t even keep protestors from invading Parliment, they have zero chance of protecting every whack job politician we have.

People do not care enough about politicians to shoot them?

Interesting perspective on political engagement.

As even this thread demonstrates, the extreme rhetoric all comes from one side: the smug, highly moralistic “better people” crowd who smear everyone who disagrees with their moral utopianism as being evil bigots. Usually armed with a basic degree-mill qualification, they are absolutely convinced only their own views are valid. And that is what has led to the demise of liberalism and the rise of strident apocalyptic language like “literally Hitler” and “voting for so-and-so will end democracy”.

@Rustygear
Other than a pejorative laden rant against anyone who doesn’t subscribe to your view of the world, do you actually have a point to make?

“the smug, highly moralistic “better people” crowd who smear everyone who disagrees with their moral utopianism as being evil bigots.”

So you mean the Left then.

Try an disagree with them about climate change or the gender nonsense….

…. and you find you are wholly unable to support your assertions, don’t you stevew77.

Actually, it was an ordinary day in America. It contained the 35th mass shooting (4 or more dead or injured) for the month of July (so far). The extraordinary thing? A highly protected, rich, white, former president was the target. But, in all other respects, just another day in America.

Where were the other 34?

And yeah, there is a bit of a difference between gang violence and attempting to assassinate a former president and current presidential candidate.

@riccardo
Yes, unfortunately another nutter exercising their Second Amendment rights.

Well when you have clowns like ASIO harp on about “right wing extremists”, who have done literally nothing but talk online and hold their own little gatherings, but ignore left wing extremists committing actual crimes and acts of political violence, they are going to be emboldened to keep stepping it up. They are left unchecked and their beliefs are even encouraged on mainstream social media platforms, which have become spiralling echo chambers.

Even some of the nonsense on this article displays it. “Trump was the worst ever. The stuff of nightmares!”. The guy is an idiot, bht what did he do that was so terrible? Sent out some mean tweets and wanted to stop huge amounts of illegal immigration? Yeah, literally Hitler tier…..

That’s the kind of overblown BS fuelling the entire issue.

Ken, just on your point, who was it that shot up the mosques in new zealand and killed 50 people? That is the kind of “right wing extremist” that ASIO is concerned about, not the tree hugging leftie blocking traffic or chucking soup on a painting. When fascists demonise whole swathes of people as evil and inhuman, that is what happens.

And you notice how nobody condoned his actions? Meanwhile the US had months of “mostly peaceful protest” that involved murders, looting and burning down as much of the city as possible. My statement that left wing extremism is accepted and encouraged stands.

There appeared to be a bit of odd stuff with all that, so it has questions over it still.

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