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Security cameras for the home – is there any point?

By Rollersk8r - 13 August 2012 18

So I’ve put up with my fair share from the neighbour’s children and I’m considering installing security cameras at home. I’m sure my problems aren’t much compared to stories others can tell – but over the years we’ve put up with regular midweek parties (parents never at home), litter and smashed glass in the front yard, our house has been egged, they’ve entered our backyard to dump bongs and party rubbish in our bins (which I hurled right back over the fence) – and the final straw was recently having my garden irrigation system slashed.

So my question is – if I captured any of this on tape what’s the best possible outcome? Hardly going to be priority no.1 for the police now, is it??

And before you ask there’s no point in taking it up with the parents. Dad’s home about twice a month and kids treat him just as badly as they treat us…

What’s Your opinion?


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18 Responses to
Security cameras for the home – is there any point?
Henry82 1:07 pm 15 Aug 12

actually, buy a huge electric fence, have it inset 1m from the existing fence. It seems you can buy energizers for just over $100.

Henry82 12:59 pm 15 Aug 12

my vote is for some angry dogs.

Disinformation 12:39 pm 15 Aug 12

pptvb said :

Disinformation said :

pptvb said :

WOW…..After THAT, I see you have the perfect name!

And being a paragon of information yourself, you’ve gone off to research the internet and prove me wrong in every case?

Yep. I don’t expect to hear back anything factual to back your worthless opinion up.

I wouldn’t know where to start!
I only have 20 years experience installing CCTV, I don’t base my opinions on what I see on ACA.

No, that just means that you can’t base your opinioins. If you can’t base your opinions on relevent regulations, then your opinions are worthless.
If you actually did know anything then by definition, you’d know exactly where to start.

So by your refusal to engage and back up your opinion, the only explanation which is logical is that you can’t.
The regulations relating to public photography across the states in Australian and an informed opinion on them is available on the Internet if you can be bothered looking.

Don’t confuse experience in installation of installation with having a clue about THE LAW unless you can actually point to legislation defining how things are or examples tested in court.

I will take anything less a complete list of applicable legislation as admitting that you have absolutely no idea.

Or maybe you won’t know, rather then know where to start?

Truthiness 10:44 am 15 Aug 12

Or you could not turn your house into big brother, take spoonful of concrete and stop being such a miserable old coot.

I’ve never understood old people’s hate for parties, I can fall asleep under the main speakers without a problem, and yet some ancient bat three suburbs away files a noise complaint because her hearing aid is turned up too high.

Seriously, old folks, run the whole western world into debt, spend all the inheritance, then not even let us get drunk or watch tits on TV. what a bunch or miserable wrinklies.

yeah, put in cameras to stop kids having fun, how about some land mines in the street and manacles for all children during your precious sleeping hours. I bet you mow your yard at 8 on a Sunday don’t you?

SheepGroper 10:15 am 15 Aug 12

pptvb said :

I wouldn’t know where to start!
I only have 20 years experience installing CCTV, I don’t base my opinions on what I see on ACA.

What Disinformation posted seems ok to me apart from the Youtube bit, and when I asked the police about cameras a few years ago their advice was that if I had one on my letterbox and happened to capture the image of someone interfering with it, it’s not illegal and could be used by them. Certainly the advice to have each camera covered by at least one other sounds good – if it was affordable, then why not?

pptvb 8:03 am 15 Aug 12

Disinformation said :

pptvb said :

WOW…..After THAT, I see you have the perfect name!

And being a paragon of information yourself, you’ve gone off to research the internet and prove me wrong in every case?

Yep. I don’t expect to hear back anything factual to back your worthless opinion up.

I wouldn’t know where to start!
I only have 20 years experience installing CCTV, I don’t base my opinions on what I see on ACA.

Disinformation 7:23 pm 14 Aug 12

pptvb said :

WOW…..After THAT, I see you have the perfect name!

And being a paragon of information yourself, you’ve gone off to research the internet and prove me wrong in every case?

Yep. I don’t expect to hear back anything factual to back your worthless opinion up.

farnarkler 6:27 pm 13 Aug 12

Buy an assortment of dobermans, alsatians and rottweilers and train them to enjoy the taste of children’s flesh.

damien haas 5:36 pm 13 Aug 12

There was some petty thieving and car break ins in my street early last year, and I installed security cameras. the software is motion activated, and saves to disk. I caught a neighbours teenage kid on camera, rifling through a car in my driveway. I printed off some photos and spoke to his father. Hasnt occurred since (to me anyway).

I had made reports to the police after the thefts, and contemplated reporting him to the police, but thought i’d give the thieving shit one last chance.

M0les 5:26 pm 13 Aug 12

Sell the story to ACA. At least you’ll get some cash.

Chop71 4:26 pm 13 Aug 12

seriously, where do you live? Detroit>?

pptvb 4:24 pm 13 Aug 12

Disinformation said :

Well, I think under standard photography rules, that there are NO regulations as to what your security camera can look at. As long as you are looking at what is the majority of your property, go your hardest.
Wander around and see what other security cameras look at.
Unless the there is a complaint by your neighbors that your cameras look squarely into their bedroom and that there is reasonable belief that you put it there for that purpose, there is no reason for them to complain. After all, the cameras that can see their house may also capture potential criminals.
Put your security cameras up. Make sure that they are vandal resistant and if possible, ensure that a camera covers the positions of another so that the cameras can’t be approached from a blind spot.
Ensure that you have if possible, some sort of coverage of the fusebox or a UPS system which powers camera and recorders.
Or just put up dummy camera housings. And not those pathetic ones in shops either. Proper tinted vandalproof domes. Best idea yet is a mix of real cameras and fakes.

And by the way, there would be nothing stopping you from putting up a video on youtube of something that happened in your back yard. Regardless of who was in it, unless it was of a sexual nature. An identifiable image of someone committing vandalism with their name attached to it on the internet just may affect someone’s prospects in future. Wouldn’t that be a pity? It would sure be a bargaining point that I’d be using. After all, it’s not like you can’t put a video up and then edit the details about it later..

WOW…..After THAT, I see you have the perfect name!

Disinformation 4:17 pm 13 Aug 12

Well, I think under standard photography rules, that there are NO regulations as to what your security camera can look at. As long as you are looking at what is the majority of your property, go your hardest.
Wander around and see what other security cameras look at.
Unless the there is a complaint by your neighbors that your cameras look squarely into their bedroom and that there is reasonable belief that you put it there for that purpose, there is no reason for them to complain. After all, the cameras that can see their house may also capture potential criminals.
Put your security cameras up. Make sure that they are vandal resistant and if possible, ensure that a camera covers the positions of another so that the cameras can’t be approached from a blind spot.
Ensure that you have if possible, some sort of coverage of the fusebox or a UPS system which powers camera and recorders.
Or just put up dummy camera housings. And not those pathetic ones in shops either. Proper tinted vandalproof domes. Best idea yet is a mix of real cameras and fakes.

And by the way, there would be nothing stopping you from putting up a video on youtube of something that happened in your back yard. Regardless of who was in it, unless it was of a sexual nature. An identifiable image of someone committing vandalism with their name attached to it on the internet just may affect someone’s prospects in future. Wouldn’t that be a pity? It would sure be a bargaining point that I’d be using. After all, it’s not like you can’t put a video up and then edit the details about it later..

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 3:51 pm 13 Aug 12

Yeah, sadly you only have two realistic options. Move house or violently beat them until they stop. I would not recomend option two.

Even if you get them on camera, the police would probably consider their actions trivial and treat you as a pest. I think there are also regulations on what your camera can look at.

Sammy 3:44 pm 13 Aug 12

If you’ve got enough evidence (like a years worth of video and notes) then couldn’t you take civil action against them? Mind you, once you go down that path it’ll probably consume your life, and then life won’t really be worth living anyway.

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