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Simon Corbell calls in the Giralang shops redevelopment

By johnboy 19 August 2011 31


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Simon Corbell has announced he’s had enough of the whole sorry sham that has been the consultation surrounding Giralang shops which nearby shopping centres have abused the process to try to keep their competition dead.

Mr Corbell called in the development application from the ACT Planning and Land Authority and decided that the redevelopment should proceed and that work start as soon as possible.

“This redevelopment would see a new supermarket and other retail outlets be established at the Giralang centre, which will be a positive outcome for local residents,” Mr Corbell said.

“The application process for this redevelopment has taken some time, and as the responsible minister I decided that it was in the best interest of the local community, to enable this important project to go ahead.”

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smart_b_tch 5:34 pm 30 Sep 11

Tetranitrate said :

smart_b_tch said :

I am a resident of Giralang and what has been approved is far too large. I understand a 5790sqm centre has been approved which is bigger than most of Canberra’s Group Centres and certainly Canberra’s Local Centres.
Of the 5790sqm 2470sqm is for storage, the remaining space is for retail of which 1500sqm is for a supermarket. Any idiot can work out that the supermarket will be much larger than the 1500sqm allocated because Woolworths will put all their storage, cool rooms, offices, staff rooms in the 2470sqm. This is a 4000sqm supermarket. And what about the 4 specialty shops, which would by my calculations have to be 400sqm plus for each shop. This is bigger than most local centre supermarkets. Ross Calvert and his gang of four will have a lot to answer for when traffic through the suburb and in particular my street reaches boiling point. Funny how everyone who lives around me never wanted this, so I would love to know who appointed Calvert spokesperson for Giralang. Why couldn’t we just have a normal local centre like everyone else? Instead we get another Woolworths in Canberra because we don’t have enough already, obviously.

This message endorsed by Superbarn Kaleen.

No, not Kaleen Superbarn, i’m actually a resident who cares… and you would obviously be the developer?

born2Bwild 11:19 am 03 Sep 11

This quote taken from the Canberra Times 29Aug11:” Giralang shop size stoush may go to court”.

“He said the proposed Giralang local centre supermarket site was far bigger than the Calwell, Hawker, Wanniassa and Curtin group centres and twice the size of Kaleen”.

Well this comment appears to be quite exaggerated. I took the liberty of having a look on Satellite imagery, courtesy of Google Earth, for a site and shopping centre comparison, in particular to the size of the existing Kaleen Shopping Centre site (building only). Unless my eyes need adjusting, the Kaleen complex appears to be at least twice the size of the current state of the “derelict” Giralang complex. I can’t see how something twice the size of Kaleen is going to fit on the “odd shaped” site in Giralang (and yes I know there is underground parking proposed and I have not taken that into consideration). I am only referring to the proposed development at ground level that will be housing the supermarket and specialty shops.

Something that has not been mentioned is the fact that with the upcoming housing developments in both Lawson, and Crace that is still rocketing ahead, there will be enough “spoils” to go around for the IGA, Superbarn opposers and “whatever supermarket” goes ahead in Giralang. There is also an overflow of shoppers from the suburb of Bruce where townhouse and unit developments is still thriving.

I have been a resident of Kaleen, Bruce and Giralang suburbs over 18 years. I have seen the transformation of the Kaleen shopping complex when “Superbarn” moved in. Sadly, for what ever reason, I have also seen some of the smaller shop owners close there doors. Maybe they were not able to compete. I take my hat off to the “bakery and butcher” that are still there and I hope that they can still continue to trade.

If the Giralang development proposal goes ahead, then the Superbarn and IGA owners with there buying power through “Metcash” should consider reviewing their pricing policy to stay competitive. Presently when I shop at Superbarn, I avoid many items as they are exorbitantly priced compared to Coles and Woolies (I know this is the case with many of my neighbours and friends have said the same). Like I previously stated, there should be enough spoils with Lawson and nearby Crace to go around for “all the supermarkets”.

aidan 9:20 am 31 Aug 11

LSWCHP said :

There’s a lot of kids around here, with the playing fields full of kids playing soccer on the weekends, acompanied by the usual terrible parking and mad driving as parents and kids come and go.

Belnorth no longer play at Giralang. It wasn’t big enough so they moved. Pity really, as it was good to have the grounds used regularly and well maintained.

LSWCHP 9:32 pm 30 Aug 11

Rollersk8r said :

DermottBanana said :

What a daft saga.
A company wants to put in a supermarket, and people object on the basis it’ll be too big?
If ya don’t like it, don’t shop there.

In their defence they’re not objecting to the supermarket itself but the trucks, increased traffic, noise, crowds etc. I’d have some reservations if I lived directly across the road, although personally I think it won’t be as bad as they imagine – and more than worth it when the tradeoff is a supermarket and services 50m from the front door.

And hey – it’s not like the trucks are going to be any worse than the regular burnouts, random fireworks/explosions and Harley Davidsons we’re already forced to live with in Giralang.

Burnouts, explosions, Harleys etc on Canopus crescent? Check, check and check. Life in Giralang is lived on the razors’s edge. 🙂

Anyway, I live nearby. Not directly opposite, but close enough, and while I can see the benefits I also have some concerns.

For example, one of my kids has to cross the street to get to his bus stop in the morning. It’s bad enough that he has to dodge the Harleys and explosions each day, but I’d hate to see him killed by a semi-trailer load of frozen chicken. Or a semi-trailer full of anything for that matter.

There’s a lot of kids around here, with the playing fields full of kids playing soccer on the weekends, acompanied by the usual terrible parking and mad driving as parents and kids come and go.

In short, Canopus is a fairly narrow suburban street surrounded by kids, a school, and recreational areas, and I’m concerned about the safety issues, and the loss of amenity caused by having heavy vehicles going up and down it on a regular basis.

On the other hand, the site is a bloody disgrace, and even a knocking shop would probably be better than the current situation.

And as for the usefulness of the shops, I imagine I’ll be doing a little shopping there rather than at the overpriced Kaleen Supabarn. However, I’m doing most of my grocery shopping at Costco now, so they won’t be making all that much money out of me.

Rollersk8r 4:09 pm 30 Aug 11

DermottBanana said :

What a daft saga.
A company wants to put in a supermarket, and people object on the basis it’ll be too big?
If ya don’t like it, don’t shop there.

In their defence they’re not objecting to the supermarket itself but the trucks, increased traffic, noise, crowds etc. I’d have some reservations if I lived directly across the road, although personally I think it won’t be as bad as they imagine – and more than worth it when the tradeoff is a supermarket and services 50m from the front door.

And hey – it’s not like the trucks are going to be any worse than the regular burnouts, random fireworks/explosions and Harley Davidsons we’re already forced to live with in Giralang.

Waiting For Godot 4:06 pm 30 Aug 11

Tetranitrate said :

DermottBanana said :

What a daft saga.
A company wants to put in a supermarket, and people object on the basis it’ll be too big?
If ya don’t like it, don’t shop there.

Actually pretty much nobody in Giralang is opposed to the development, the opposition is from business interests in Kaleen and elsewhere who don’t like the idea of competition.

“Business interests”? Mainly Manuel Xyrakis (IGA) and the Kondouris family (Supa Barn) who set themselves up as little Aussie battlers bravely fighting the nasty big guys from interstate (Coles and Woolies).

Stanhope seemed to have fallen under their spell with his silly nonsense about artificially regulating the market to allow “more competition”.

Full marks to Simon for finally stopping the rot and acting to allow market forces to take their natural course. Now that Stanhope has gone let’s hope the rest of his silly BS will go as well.

johnboy 3:57 pm 30 Aug 11

I have heard Giralang folk complain they don’t want the extra traffic this will bring.

they should probably relocate to the country IMHO.

Tetranitrate 3:55 pm 30 Aug 11

DermottBanana said :

What a daft saga.
A company wants to put in a supermarket, and people object on the basis it’ll be too big?
If ya don’t like it, don’t shop there.

Actually pretty much nobody in Giralang is opposed to the development, the opposition is from business interests in Kaleen and elsewhere who don’t like the idea of competition.

DermottBanana 3:45 pm 30 Aug 11

What a daft saga.
A company wants to put in a supermarket, and people object on the basis it’ll be too big?
If ya don’t like it, don’t shop there.

aidan 3:22 pm 30 Aug 11

Now there is a story in the Crimes about a possible legal challenge.

Mr Haridemos said if Mr Corbell refused to negotiate, the supplier of IGA supermarkets, Metcash, would be asked to help with the legal challenge.

”If we can’t get a change we will mount a Supreme Court challenge.”

So they’ve pretty much conceded defeat, and are now making some noise in a damage limitation exercise. Can’t see anything in this for Metcash, so a bit of bluster.

Word on the street says six months lead time before the development starts.

Tetranitrate 1:09 pm 26 Aug 11

smart_b_tch said :

I am a resident of Giralang and what has been approved is far too large. I understand a 5790sqm centre has been approved which is bigger than most of Canberra’s Group Centres and certainly Canberra’s Local Centres.
Of the 5790sqm 2470sqm is for storage, the remaining space is for retail of which 1500sqm is for a supermarket. Any idiot can work out that the supermarket will be much larger than the 1500sqm allocated because Woolworths will put all their storage, cool rooms, offices, staff rooms in the 2470sqm. This is a 4000sqm supermarket. And what about the 4 specialty shops, which would by my calculations have to be 400sqm plus for each shop. This is bigger than most local centre supermarkets. Ross Calvert and his gang of four will have a lot to answer for when traffic through the suburb and in particular my street reaches boiling point. Funny how everyone who lives around me never wanted this, so I would love to know who appointed Calvert spokesperson for Giralang. Why couldn’t we just have a normal local centre like everyone else? Instead we get another Woolworths in Canberra because we don’t have enough already, obviously.

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