Spread the rate card to save Kerces from Oak Flats

johnboy 19 March 2007 72

Well we didn’t make RiotACT a going concern in time to save Kerces from having to move to Oak Flats. Here’s the sign her local progress association is using to drum up civic pride:

And here’s the other side of it:

Yes, those are bullet holes. (No, I am not making this up, perhaps more progress would have been made if they’d put a location on there)

Save Kerces from poverty in Oak Flats! Save Johnboy from a fate probably far grislier! Get out there and start pestering businesses you have dealings with. Pester them with our rate cards!

Amusing and informing you via the internet is probably not going to be possible if I try pursuing sensible career moves.


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Mess Mess 12:27 am 24 Mar 07

I also like the fact that Cameron has made a lot of posts but not once has he mentioned what his business is. he could mention that he owns said business here (insert busness) but has chosen not to. well done Cameron i applaud you.

Mess Mess 12:23 am 24 Mar 07

Gee Kerces, sounds like a lot of people want to save you from living in Oak Flats. As for the above mentioned idea, i know that if i owned a business i would want it promoted on a web site that recieves a lot of free press, and if it drums up more readers, mores the better for you, because more readers will eventually lead to more advertisers. Thats the way i see it anyway. If i was reading a website with lots of readers i would definitely want to advertise on the website. Ill contact you when im a rich and sucessful business man. Dont hold your breath though.

Jazz Jazz 3:05 pm 22 Mar 07

Apologies for quoting numbers at you. wasn’t necessarily for your benefit

Jazz Jazz 3:00 pm 22 Mar 07

Cameron,
‘Free’ ads is probably an inappropriate term to keep describing them but in any case they wont be in the mix indefinately. email me at advertising@the-riotact.com and we can discuss details if you like.

Cameron Cameron 2:49 pm 22 Mar 07

I completely stuffed the last post when using blockquotes.

So here it is again but (hopefully) corrected so it is clear what exactly it is I’m responding to.

Says something about how good that editing function would be eh?

Cameron, The ads we elect to leave in the rotation arent free. They cost Johnboy, myself, Che, NTP and Kramer money to have them there. Not only in increased bandwidth, but also in the displacement of paid ads. Troy’s paid ad for example would have expired in approx half a day if we didnt have others in the rotation. Probably not so great for Troy as his exposure would have been over a very very limited period. (good luck Troy).

I understand that it costs you money to display the ads, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is free to the end user.

There are others in the rotation that have given RiotACT things over a number of years. This is our way of showing some support back.

The best reasoning I’ve heard yet.

We are looking at a number of options to give our loyal readers/subscribers something extra. Unfortunately those things take a bit of time to put in place as we have day jobs too. But we also want to be sure they offer you value for money.

I hear you. At this point I’d reiterate the fact that I think it more saleable to place your affiliates in one area (the people you refer to above) and your paid advertisers in another. They should not be in the same place and rotated through with each other.

Your point about paid advertisers copping a whole bunch of page views in a very limited time frame is a good one – and if your goal is to move/remove the free ads once this is no longer an issue then I am prepared to sign up on that basis.

Btw, our limited market testing indicates that $100 for 10,000 pageviews is very very cheap.

No one is questioning the value. I find it unnecessary for you to throw figures like that at me, just like I find it unnecessary for johnboy to point out the gratis ad views & clicks I’d received to date.

I think the ads are well priced. I just questioned the mix of paid and free ads. I also appreciated the free ad offer, but if we’re playing the ‘look what we did for you’ game then I’d point out that RiotACT only offered them in the first place in order to determine the feasibility of an ad rotation scheme. I, and the rest, helped you do that 😉

Bottom line: If RA is working towards a system whereby the paid ads are in their own section as soon as there are enough paid ads to make the rotation work, then sign me up.

If RA plans on keeping free ads in the mix, then I still need to be convinced.

Jazz Jazz 2:49 pm 22 Mar 07

And even more $$$ for an ‘edit everyone else’s posts’ button.

That sounds even better.

Comment by Hasdrubahl — 22 March, 2007 @ 2:38 pm

There is absolutely no chance of us giving that to you Hasdrubhal. some things you just have to keep for yourself 😉

Cameron Cameron 2:44 pm 22 Mar 07

I understand that it costs you money to display the ads, but that doesn’t change the fact that it is free to the end user.

The best reasoning I’ve heard yet.

I hear you. At this point I’d reiterate the fact that I think it more saleable to place your affiliates in one area (the people you refer to above) and your paid advertisers in another. They should not be in the same place and rotated through with each other.

Your point about paid advertisers copping a whole bunch of page views in a very limited time frame is a good one – and if your goal is to move/remove the free ads once this is no longer an issue then I am prepared to sign up on that basis.

No one is questioning the value. I find it unnecessary for you to throw figures like that at me, just like I find it unnecessary for johnboy to point out the gratis ad views & clicks I’d received to date.

I think the ads are well priced. I just questioned the mix of paid and free ads. I also appreciated the free ad offer, but if we’re playing the ‘look what we did for you’ game then I’d point out that RiotACT only offered them in the first place in order to determine the feasibility of an ad rotation scheme. I, and the rest, helped you do that 😉

Bottom line: If RA is working towards a system whereby the paid ads are in their own section as soon as there are enough paid ads to make the rotation work, then sign me up.

If RA plans on keeping free ads in the mix, then I still need to be convinced.

seepi seepi 2:42 pm 22 Mar 07

Edits could show up in a different colour – that should differentiate typo fixing from rewrites.

Also, please don’t make it a paypal thing.

Hasdrubahl Hasdrubahl 2:38 pm 22 Mar 07

And even more $$$ for an ‘edit everyone else’s posts’ button.

That sounds even better.

Jazz Jazz 2:02 pm 22 Mar 07

No prob Maelinar. We’ve already tossed around that one. just tyring to work out how to do it without affecting continuity of any further discussion.

Maelinar Maelinar 12:34 pm 22 Mar 07

We are looking at a number of options to give our loyal readers/subscribers something extra. Unfortunately those things take a bit of time to put in place as we have day jobs too. But we also want to be sure they offer you value for money.

$$$ for an edit your own posts button. Free for people who historically made a sizeable contribution to RA, such as Thumper.

You know it sounds good.

caf caf 11:15 am 22 Mar 07

It seems odd to be concerned with what others are paying – surely the criteria should be whether you will get a reasonable return for the amount you would have to invest yourself. And it’s not as if when you advertise in the CT or Yellow Pages or whatever that you know that none of the other ads were donated or treated as “in-kind” sponsorshop etc…

Danman Danman 10:47 am 22 Mar 07

dunno where you got facist – I thought a superior intellect such as yours would have been able to se the link between a colonic soloution called faecaway and the fact that it involves cleaning faecal material from the colon of those who choose so, but I guess not.

You (a total stranger) can think what you want of me – draw your own opinions and conclusions – but do these really matter to me ?

Not really…

Like I said – do canberrans a favour – turn into compost – hell ill even water you into the ground with my colonic irrigation solution (used of course)

Anyway – this aint about you and me – its about JB and Kerces.

Jazz Jazz 10:35 am 22 Mar 07

Cameron, The ads we elect to leave in the rotation arent free. They cost Johnboy, myself, Che, NTP and Kramer money to have them there. Not only in increased bandwidth, but also in the displacement of paid ads. Troy’s paid ad for example would have expired in approx half a day if we didnt have others in the rotation. Probably not so great for Troy as his exposure would have been over a very very limited period. (good luck Troy).

There are others in the rotation that have given RiotACT things over a number of years. This is our way of showing some support back.

We are looking at a number of options to give our loyal readers/subscribers something extra. Unfortunately those things take a bit of time to put in place as we have day jobs too. But we also want to be sure they offer you value for money.

Btw, our limited market testing indicates that $100 for 10,000 pageviews is very very cheap.

bonfire bonfire 10:05 am 22 Mar 07

i see it now danman, youre actually a gfascist.

you want to close medicare down and throw sick kids on to the streets.

i mean, you have health insurance, why should someone receive treatment under medicare.

Thumper Thumper 8:46 am 22 Mar 07

Jey is most definitely NOT a bloke.

Hasdrubahl Hasdrubahl 9:07 pm 21 Mar 07

Well that’s what Jey says. I have yet to see hard evidence.

emd emd 8:44 pm 21 Mar 07

I consider the free ads to be a community service. It’s very helpful in building awareness that Jey is not a bloke, for example.

Danman Danman 7:50 pm 21 Mar 07

should read only – just proving I am human.

Danman Danman 7:49 pm 21 Mar 07

On use a trusted colonic solution – Faecaway by danman – dealing with bonfires shit for eons.

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