5 April 2010

Suicide motorist crashes into Parliament House

| Felix the Cat
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It is reported in The Daily Telegraph that a man was found dead in his car that had crashed into a concrete wall at Parliament House early Monday morning.

Police are reportedly saying it appears to be a deliberate act.

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Silentforce said :

ACT Policing must be lifting their game to solve this one so quickly.

No coroners report.
No toxicology test results.
No vehicle inspection after the event.

Clearly not in the public interest to release a few facts.

I too wondered if the poor soul was driving a Toyota.

How many suicides have you seen published in The Canberra Times lately? There may have been 5 this year already that you don’t know about, because they are not made public.

This is no different.

I’m pretty sure you will find that looking at the scene and assessing the conditions, the Crash Investigations and Reconstruction Team that the AFP have would have been able to give a preliminary finding as to the cause of the accident.

Just because you don’t understand the process does not mean that there is a conspiracy.

You do know that it is a member of the ACT Police that does the Coroners report right? It would have been done the day of the crash.

Silentforce said :

ACT Policing must be lifting their game to solve this one so quickly.

No coroners report.
No toxicology test results.
No vehicle inspection after the event.

Clearly not in the public interest to release a few facts.

I too wondered if the poor soul was driving a Toyota.

there’s clearly a bit more to it for such a rapid conclusion, but why should we be so keen to know the details. It appears the families of the Narra crash were happy to air their stories in the media and blame the police as soon as. Why are we so ghoulish to pry if the family don’t want the attention, unless there is a public interest. Was it Godwin Grech?

la mente torbida1:01 pm 07 Apr 10

sorry for above post…wrong thread

la mente torbida1:00 pm 07 Apr 10

just looked the author up on urban dictionary dot com …SMUCK:

“It is a Hebrew Word for the Foreskin that gets chopped off at birth. So when a person that is educated or a Jew calls you a Smuck. He or She is calling you a useless piece of dick.”

ROTFLMAO

J Dawg said :

dvaey said :

Also, why is the identity withheld? Is this seriously the same reporting that told us up-to-the-minute details on those involved in Narrabundah plus their families, friends and long-lost puppies.. most of which was irrelevant to the accident? Why such a massive turn-around in only a couple of weeks?

You criticise their actions a few weeks ago, and now criticise their new actions. You sound like you think they made a mistake then, and are making a mistake now by fixing their mistake.

Im not whinging about their actions, Im whinging about the lack of consistency. In one instance they report on the story and history of everyone involved, but in another they dont.

If it was someone who drove into a tree on a quiet road, then the above reasons could be believed, but this was someone driving into Parliament House. If someone drove a car into the white house building or the kremlin, we’d hear endless details, but not when they drive into Australia’s Parliament House, because the families might be affected? Did news media in Canberra have a sudden policy change this past week?

ACT Policing must be lifting their game to solve this one so quickly.

No coroners report.
No toxicology test results.
No vehicle inspection after the event.

Clearly not in the public interest to release a few facts.

I too wondered if the poor soul was driving a Toyota.

Growling Ferret said :

Identities are generally withheld when a suicide attempt is successful – unless of course you are famous and then it becomes public information.

Other road deaths where the victim dies of other causes prior to having the accident are also excluded from road stats – ie driver has heart attack, runs off the road with insufficient momentum for significant trauma, does not count towards the road toll.

Back a few years ago I was sure an elderly driver had a heart attack while driving through Torrens & that was counted.

I suspect the death may of been an (ex) employee at Parliament House & the lake is a popular location for suicide & suicides aren’t usually as publicized.

Waiting For Godot5:08 pm 06 Apr 10

Growling Ferret said :

Identities are generally withheld when a suicide attempt is successful – unless of course you are famous and then it becomes public information.

Other road deaths where the victim dies of other causes prior to having the accident are also excluded from road stats – ie driver has heart attack, runs off the road with insufficient momentum for significant trauma, does not count towards the road toll.

There’s a lot of covering up done over many road deaths. Remember that kickboxer/bouncer who drove his car across the median strip in Adelaide Ave and rammed it into the wall near the Thai Embassy? The widow and the local media were trying to claim he had a heart attack but everybody in the know knew it was caused by the side effects of anabolic steroid abuse. The police knew the truth and thus included the death in the road toll.

dvaey said :

Also, why is the identity withheld? Is this seriously the same reporting that told us up-to-the-minute details on those involved in Narrabundah plus their families, friends and long-lost puppies.. most of which was irrelevant to the accident? Why such a massive turn-around in only a couple of weeks?

You criticise their actions a few weeks ago, and now criticise their new actions. You sound like you think they made a mistake then, and are making a mistake now by fixing their mistake. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Go whinge about the AFP on facebook with the other haters.

Growling Ferret said :

Other road deaths where the victim dies of other causes prior to having the accident are also excluded from road stats – ie driver has heart attack, runs off the road with insufficient momentum for significant trauma, does not count towards the road toll.

Having a heart attack when there is no consequential ‘accident’ is hardly a ‘road death’.

And while we’re at it, there is no such thing as a road ‘accident’ in 99.999% of crash incidents. It’s usually due to some idiot being, well, an idiot!

Growling Ferret10:48 am 06 Apr 10

Identities are generally withheld when a suicide attempt is successful – unless of course you are famous and then it becomes public information.

Other road deaths where the victim dies of other causes prior to having the accident are also excluded from road stats – ie driver has heart attack, runs off the road with insufficient momentum for significant trauma, does not count towards the road toll.

Holden Caulfield said :

Here’s the AFP release:

The incident is being treated as a deliberate act and will not be recorded as an ACT road fatality. No details relating to the driver’s identity will be released.

Since when have ‘delibrate act’s not been counted as road deaths? Are deaths now only counted if the government suspects alcohol/speeding were involved to stick to the road-safety agenda?

Also, why is the identity withheld? Is this seriously the same reporting that told us up-to-the-minute details on those involved in Narrabundah plus their families, friends and long-lost puppies.. most of which was irrelevant to the accident? Why such a massive turn-around in only a couple of weeks? I

Ummmm, was it possibly a Toyota?

Holden Caulfield9:11 am 06 Apr 10

Here’s the AFP release:

Police investigate incident on Parliament Drive

Monday, 05 April 2010

ACT Policing’s Collision Investigation and Reconstruction Team (CIRT) is investigating an incident on Parliament Drive, Capital Hill, around 2.15am today (Monday, April 5) in which a male driver of a vehicle was found deceased.

The vehicle driven by the deceased had collided head-on with a concrete wall.

The incident is being treated as a deliberate act and will not be recorded as an ACT road fatality. No details relating to the driver’s identity will be released.

Any witnesses to the incident who can provide information to assist the investigation are urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on http://www.act.crimestoppers.com.au.

Source: http://www.afp.gov.au/media/act_media/media_releases.html

Look on the positive side: he wanted to end his life but didn’t take other motorists with him.

Probably a drunk who decided it was the drive through for a late night lamb sandwich……..

Unless he was being chased by Queanbeyan Police?

WIN news had footage of the site on the news. It does look like it was deliberate judging by where it occurred, as it would be near on impossible to hit head on at speed accidently.

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