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The little buggers might get braver but they don’t get any smarter

By SheepGroper 8 December 2013 57

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Woden town centre at midday today. The saturated green of the trees. The acres of concrete since the pool was filled in.The metal sculpture that probably symbolises something profound although it’s not my thing.The vermin defacing it that didn’t think that someone might be taking a happy snap of their doings in broad daylight.

I’m sure their parents are proud.

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Deref 8:56 am 11 Dec 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

Respect for ones property, respect for people themselves and respect for the English language apparently.

One’s.

And its.

wildturkeycanoe 6:19 am 11 Dec 13

Yes, Poetix, I am [was last night] very angry about this situation. Sorry about the oopsies, spell check was also goofing it up for me.
Still, in the first 42 comments, only 4 people spoke against these brats, whilst the rest went on about the lack of development and political issues – some even made excuses for the graffiti artists, blaming it on politicians. Had these almost teens assaulted someone, would the majority on this forum pretend it was the fault of television, for giving the lids instruction on how to go about it and how easy it is to evade the law? Had it been armed robbery at knife-point, would you just say “The poor darlings have just been raised by bad parents, they don’t know any different, it’s not their fault.”?
Defending bad behavior, or doing nothing about it, will not make a better future for our world. Laws are not to be broken and they are there for the protection of people and property. More police with better powers to enable enforcement of those laws is what is needed. Don’t just ignore the problem, it will only get worse.

DrKoresh 12:36 am 11 Dec 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

Degrade yourselves into some twisted kind of society where nobody says hello to another, whilst I find another planet to live on. There is such a thing as living in the now, but I am increasingly finding it hard to understand how quickly and how different the last decade or so has become in comparison to the previous ones. Anyone know of a deserted island I could buy cheaply? Preferably with fishing rights, no nuclear waste and 3G coverage?

You want an island that’s 20 behind everywhere else? How about Tasmania?

poetix 12:07 am 11 Dec 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

poetix said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

….

Society has collapsed into a sad, sad state and all I want to do is get away from it and it’s crassness.

its

WRONG! Noun – crassness. In my context, “it is crassness.”.
Acceptable, English, but not to our [your] illiterate generation.

Again, I re-iterate that what is being done on this forum by you “young-uns” only emphasizes the problem we have with our society. According to all of you crime is okay to do, as long as it doesn’t affect you personally. RESPECT, is missing from our society. Respect for ones property, respect for people themselves and respect for the English language apparently. Call me old, old fashioned, archaic, extremely libertarian [though I vote Labor], but you will never see my kids defacing property or mugging you as you withdraw cash from an ATM. If all you of you critics, who deny these cretins deserve a little discipline, are even ten years my younger, I am ashamed and consider myself of the previous generation, where love and respect were part and parcel of the peace pipe and anti-war semantics. Honestly, you deny that wrong-doing deserves punishment and in the same breath want something like “gay marriage” because it is the right/fair/equal thing to do? So much wrong with that argument.
I’m not even half a century, but apparently old-fashioned. What’s wrong with that if it upholds some skerrick of moral values which diminish with every month that goes by. Degrade yourselves into some twisted kind of society where nobody says hello to another, whilst I find another planet to live on. There is such a thing as living in the now, but I am increasingly finding it hard to understand how quickly and how different the last decade or so has become in comparison to the previous ones. Anyone know of a deserted island I could buy cheaply? Preferably with fishing rights, no nuclear waste and 3G coverage?

So, according to you, your sentence was supposed to be the equivalent of:

‘Society has collapsed into a sad, sad state and all I want to do is get away from it and it is crassness.’

That is terrible. You obviously meant society and its crassness and are making it worse by denying it.

I have been called many things, but never illiterate. I’ll send back the PhD in English forthwith.

Also, I’m not young, and believe that defacing sculptures is not to be encouraged. None of which has anything to do with gay marriage. I am not enamoured with all aspects of our society, but I refuse to adopt the position that everything was better in the past.

By the way, it should be one’s property. There is an apostrophe there. Your anger is not helping your punctuation.

wildturkeycanoe 9:02 pm 10 Dec 13

poetix said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

….

Society has collapsed into a sad, sad state and all I want to do is get away from it and it’s crassness.

its

WRONG! Noun – crassness. In my context, “it is crassness.”.
Acceptable, English, but not to our [your] illiterate generation.

Again, I re-iterate that what is being done on this forum by you “young-uns” only emphasizes the problem we have with our society. According to all of you crime is okay to do, as long as it doesn’t affect you personally. RESPECT, is missing from our society. Respect for ones property, respect for people themselves and respect for the English language apparently. Call me old, old fashioned, archaic, extremely libertarian [though I vote Labor], but you will never see my kids defacing property or mugging you as you withdraw cash from an ATM. If all you of you critics, who deny these cretins deserve a little discipline, are even ten years my younger, I am ashamed and consider myself of the previous generation, where love and respect were part and parcel of the peace pipe and anti-war semantics. Honestly, you deny that wrong-doing deserves punishment and in the same breath want something like “gay marriage” because it is the right/fair/equal thing to do? So much wrong with that argument.
I’m not even half a century, but apparently old-fashioned. What’s wrong with that if it upholds some skerrick of moral values which diminish with every month that goes by. Degrade yourselves into some twisted kind of society where nobody says hello to another, whilst I find another planet to live on. There is such a thing as living in the now, but I am increasingly finding it hard to understand how quickly and how different the last decade or so has become in comparison to the previous ones. Anyone know of a deserted island I could buy cheaply? Preferably with fishing rights, no nuclear waste and 3G coverage?

Deref 3:22 pm 10 Dec 13

c_c™ said :

carpediem said :

Skidd Marx said :

EvanJames said :

I’ve always hated that square, ever since they built Woden Plaza (early 80s, or was it late 70s?). The worst wind-canyon in Canberra. it seems to want to repel any people who venture into it. More trees might help. If they can survive the bogan vandals who seem to be proliferating these days.

1972

Monday 18th September 1972 to be exact.

Described at the time by McMahon as a wonderful example of what government and the private sector could achieve together. That was ever so long ago.

He was right, though.

Gerry-Built 3:13 pm 10 Dec 13

I think I recognise Mr Tagger there; have notified CrimeStoppers… If it is who I suspect, he is a serial tagger, known to the Belconnen police.

c_c™ 3:11 pm 10 Dec 13

carpediem said :

Skidd Marx said :

EvanJames said :

I’ve always hated that square, ever since they built Woden Plaza (early 80s, or was it late 70s?). The worst wind-canyon in Canberra. it seems to want to repel any people who venture into it. More trees might help. If they can survive the bogan vandals who seem to be proliferating these days.

1972

Monday 18th September 1972 to be exact.

Described at the time by McMahon as a wonderful example of what government and the private sector could achieve together. That was ever so long ago.

carpediem 2:41 pm 10 Dec 13

Skidd Marx said :

EvanJames said :

I’ve always hated that square, ever since they built Woden Plaza (early 80s, or was it late 70s?). The worst wind-canyon in Canberra. it seems to want to repel any people who venture into it. More trees might help. If they can survive the bogan vandals who seem to be proliferating these days.

1972

Monday 18th September 1972 to be exact.

poetix 2:35 pm 10 Dec 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

….

Society has collapsed into a sad, sad state and all I want to do is get away from it and it’s crassness.

its

Diggety 2:33 pm 10 Dec 13

maxblues said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

All you people make me sick. Instead of looking at the issue at hand [juvenile delinquents defacing public property] you all just ignored the problem by talking about aesthetics, politics and night clubs. These same children will be the ones who in ten years time come and steal your car, hold up service stations and supermarkets for drug money, bludge off our taxes whilst you are wondering “What happened to society?”
In broad daylight, these imbeciles can get away with things knowing full well that nobody can touch them. Is it our fault? Yes. We let the politically correct take over and pretty much disband any form of punishment for wrongdoings. Anyone who witnessed this [camera person included] should have fronted the youths and told them what for. Unfortunately, again thanks due to the goody goodies of today, you wouldn’t be allowed to touch them [citizen’s arrest] or they’d cry foul and you would end up in jail yourself. Criminals can get away with anything at the expense of innocent people and we just keep encouraging them from school age right up till they leave home.
Society has collapsed into a sad, sad state and all I want to do is get away from it and it’s crassness.

Where are you going?

Maybe QLD? Where the gov likes to think everyone is a criminal associate.

DrKoresh 2:30 pm 10 Dec 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

All you people make me sick. Instead of looking at the issue at hand [juvenile delinquents defacing public property] you all just ignored the problem by talking about aesthetics, politics and night clubs. These same children will be the ones who in ten years time come and steal your car, hold up service stations and supermarkets for drug money, bludge off our taxes whilst you are wondering “What happened to society?”
In broad daylight, these imbeciles can get away with things knowing full well that nobody can touch them. Is it our fault? Yes. We let the politically correct take over and pretty much disband any form of punishment for wrongdoings. Anyone who witnessed this [camera person included] should have fronted the youths and told them what for. Unfortunately, again thanks due to the goody goodies of today, you wouldn’t be allowed to touch them [citizen’s arrest] or they’d cry foul and you would end up in jail yourself. Criminals can get away with anything at the expense of innocent people and we just keep encouraging them from school age right up till they leave home.
Society has collapsed into a sad, sad state and all I want to do is get away from it and it’s crassness.

How old are you exactly? 100? Cut the melodrama.

maxblues 2:26 pm 10 Dec 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

All you people make me sick. Instead of looking at the issue at hand [juvenile delinquents defacing public property] you all just ignored the problem by talking about aesthetics, politics and night clubs. These same children will be the ones who in ten years time come and steal your car, hold up service stations and supermarkets for drug money, bludge off our taxes whilst you are wondering “What happened to society?”
In broad daylight, these imbeciles can get away with things knowing full well that nobody can touch them. Is it our fault? Yes. We let the politically correct take over and pretty much disband any form of punishment for wrongdoings. Anyone who witnessed this [camera person included] should have fronted the youths and told them what for. Unfortunately, again thanks due to the goody goodies of today, you wouldn’t be allowed to touch them [citizen’s arrest] or they’d cry foul and you would end up in jail yourself. Criminals can get away with anything at the expense of innocent people and we just keep encouraging them from school age right up till they leave home.
Society has collapsed into a sad, sad state and all I want to do is get away from it and it’s crassness.

Where are you going?

c_c™ 1:35 pm 10 Dec 13

MERC600 said :

maxblues said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

More human trash.

Did not know souls bar closed. Sucks I guess when bars and pubs close, but maybe they should have cleaned there lines every now and then and opened up on the weekends.

The Soul Bar had THREE different leases off three different landlords; one for the bar area, one for the outside area in the square and one for the rear beer garden. The beer garden area was a public liability nightmare with extensive pavement damage by tree roots. Initially Doma were going to do something about it but nothing has happened.

Has the Soul definately closed ? Not just closed temp for a bit of refurb or sumthin ?

The owner CSL Pubs was put into liquidation December 3. RSM Bird Cameron are handling it.

That doesn’t necessarily mean it won’t open again, technically Ziggys Market Fresh has been in liquidation for months and their Fyshwick Markets store is certainly hasn’t missed a beat. There’s all sorts of tricks. But if the place is in the state some suggest, then more likely they’ll just let the liquidation take its course.

wildturkeycanoe 1:08 pm 10 Dec 13

All you people make me sick. Instead of looking at the issue at hand [juvenile delinquents defacing public property] you all just ignored the problem by talking about aesthetics, politics and night clubs. These same children will be the ones who in ten years time come and steal your car, hold up service stations and supermarkets for drug money, bludge off our taxes whilst you are wondering “What happened to society?”
In broad daylight, these imbeciles can get away with things knowing full well that nobody can touch them. Is it our fault? Yes. We let the politically correct take over and pretty much disband any form of punishment for wrongdoings. Anyone who witnessed this [camera person included] should have fronted the youths and told them what for. Unfortunately, again thanks due to the goody goodies of today, you wouldn’t be allowed to touch them [citizen’s arrest] or they’d cry foul and you would end up in jail yourself. Criminals can get away with anything at the expense of innocent people and we just keep encouraging them from school age right up till they leave home.
Society has collapsed into a sad, sad state and all I want to do is get away from it and it’s crassness.

maxblues 10:26 am 10 Dec 13

maxblues said :

MERC600 said :

maxblues said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

More human trash.

Did not know souls bar closed. Sucks I guess when bars and pubs close, but maybe they should have cleaned there lines every now and then and opened up on the weekends.

The Soul Bar had THREE different leases off three different landlords; one for the bar area, one for the outside area in the square and one for the rear beer garden. The beer garden area was a public liability nightmare with extensive pavement damage by tree roots. Initially Doma were going to do something about it but nothing has happened.

Has the Soul definately closed ? Not just closed temp for a bit of refurb or sumthin ?

Yes, they went broke. I believe the business in the hands of receivers but not sure which ones.

Now in the Crimes, Josh Gray, owner of Durham Castle Arms, Kingston is complaining that his business is going broke. He goes on to say that his establishment is looking tatty, he has had to lay off staff and has asked the landlord for a rent reduction. He firstly blames the ACT government’s licensing costs but then goes onto blame punters having a drink in the safety of their own homes rather than coming to his establishment where they could be ‘supervised’.

IrishPete 10:23 am 10 Dec 13

Weatherman said :

IrishPete said :

Straw-clutching.

IP

The evidence can speak for itself.

Indeed. Weak circumstantial evidence places Greens Senate candidate at the scene of graffiti which does not mention The Greens. He was at the scene some unknown time after the graffiti was created. Mr Sheikh was not wearing anything identifying him as a Greens member or candidate, though he was invited in that capacity. In numerous photographs of the protest event, no Greens banners were visible. The protest was not organised by The Greens. Greens MLA and ACT Minister Shane Rattenbury and former MLA Amanda Bresnan also photographed at the protest, and neither was wearing any visible Greens insignia.

You’re not a lawyer, are you?

The protest was outside the ACT Labor conference. I think I’ll blame them – we’ll call it deliberate sabotage to undermine their opponents, knowing there was to be a protest there that day. There’s as much credible evidence for my claim as there is for yours that it’s The Greens’ fault.

IP

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