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TOOT TOOT! Light Rail the Universal Panacea!

By johnboy 27 November 2013 26

Simon Corbell is blowing his own steam whistle on the virtues of his consultation for the planned Capital Metro line between Gungahlin and Civic.

And my golly gosh won’t it fix a load of things:

“Capital Metro is not just about moving people. It is a catalyst for realising the vision of a sustainable, modern and creative Canberra. Revitalising Northbourne Avenue and the City Centre will bring a wide range of social, economic and environmental benefits to all Canberrans.

“Light rail is proving a powerful tool to revitalise and reshape cities. It is not just a form of transport; permanent tracks in the ground provide business certainty, encourage investment and connect people and places. Capital Metro is important in delivering other Government priorities such as the City Plan and City to Lake projects,” Mr Corbell said.

Sadly it won’t mow my lawn or gratify me sexually, but it seems to have everything else covered!

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rigseismic67 5:56 pm 24 Jun 14

If the government simply did off a few % of its public housing stock there would be no need to make the rest of us pay.

wildturkeycanoe 4:56 pm 24 Jun 14

dungfungus has made a great point about the tram cables. The ones in Melbourne are at 5.64m as far as I can see, some systems are lower, around 4.1m. They would have to consider keeping the lines as high as possible to allow semi trailers to travel beneath, as semis are allowed to be 4.3m to 4.6m high. Doesn’t leave a great deal of room under the lines does it. Then there are the rest of the power lines to be avoided as well. Logistically, I’d hate to be designing this.

dungfungus 11:07 am 24 Jun 14

boormat said :

What really annoys me with the Light Rail obsession is that is claims to be Long term thinking, but really its looking back to the past. Stop watching Tomas the Tank engine and dreaming of Monorails.

You have to think about convenience and coming technologies, and how it all will fit together. To make public transport work, make it fast and friendly to use, plan to leverage the technology that will be common in 20 years.

Think transport that takes you door to door. Buses scheduled dynamically from smartphones and from mining historical data. Think of pooled car rental systems. With self driving cars going to be on roads in years not decades, the car pooling solutions instantly become so much more practical when the pools do not need special car parks, but can park further away and come pick up the passenger on demand.

Start to combine those sorts of things together and you get pooled cars doing the suburban legs, interconnecting with high speed long distance buses.

If you look at that vision of what is possible, Rail solutions are too inflexible. Certainly no flexibility to change the route to pick up people on demand, and because its a single rail, you cannot just add more trains to the route, as the ALL have to go the speed of the slowest one. No Express tram services like Bus systems do all the time, even the adhoc style when bus are scheduled at basically the same time so can leapfrog each other.

That’s without the ability of a bus to bypass an accident, roadworks or other problem that just stops rail outright.

Of course that really is a big OPPORTUNITY for the ACT, it would be the perfect city in Australia to introduce automated cars. A single government to deal with to get legistlation done who runs everything from Vehicle regulation and the single bus operator, plenty of exposure as the Capital.

Something that can develop local industry, which would otherwise develop elsewhere.

Trams have been around for over 100 years. Despite now calling them light rail transport and tarting them up with Euro inspired styling and trendy names (like cars with Spanish sounding names) they are still bound by rails and have to have a labyrinth of poles, wires and substaions to make them work. Not much has changed.
Your concept has a lot of merit but the Canberra Burgomasters have already been besotted by the allure of the Euro Tram cartel and the “me too” outcome their sales pitch delivers.
It’s ironic that the same spin that the diesel and rubber marketers used 60 years ago to get rid of trams is now being applied to bring them back.

boormat 8:16 am 24 Jun 14

What really annoys me with the Light Rail obsession is that is claims to be Long term thinking, but really its looking back to the past. Stop watching Tomas the Tank engine and dreaming of Monorails.

You have to think about convenience and coming technologies, and how it all will fit together. To make public transport work, make it fast and friendly to use, plan to leverage the technology that will be common in 20 years.

Think transport that takes you door to door. Buses scheduled dynamically from smartphones and from mining historical data. Think of pooled car rental systems. With self driving cars going to be on roads in years not decades, the car pooling solutions instantly become so much more practical when the pools do not need special car parks, but can park further away and come pick up the passenger on demand.

Start to combine those sorts of things together and you get pooled cars doing the suburban legs, interconnecting with high speed long distance buses.

If you look at that vision of what is possible, Rail solutions are too inflexible. Certainly no flexibility to change the route to pick up people on demand, and because its a single rail, you cannot just add more trains to the route, as the ALL have to go the speed of the slowest one. No Express tram services like Bus systems do all the time, even the adhoc style when bus are scheduled at basically the same time so can leapfrog each other.

That’s without the ability of a bus to bypass an accident, roadworks or other problem that just stops rail outright.

Of course that really is a big OPPORTUNITY for the ACT, it would be the perfect city in Australia to introduce automated cars. A single government to deal with to get legistlation done who runs everything from Vehicle regulation and the single bus operator, plenty of exposure as the Capital.

Something that can develop local industry, which would otherwise develop elsewhere.

gooterz 10:58 pm 03 Apr 14

Walker said :

Storm said :

dungfungus said :

A tram with sails?
The passengers can be given (renewable) poles to use to accelerate the vehicle to crising speed of 2 km per hour. Hope there is room for bike racks.

Or, every seat will have pedals, every passenger using it should be pedalling. There you go- fitness improved, fossil fuels not used to power it. 🙂

I’m waaay ahead of you. 😉

When we have 25 members they’ll be able to use all that extra hot air.

HiddenDragon 1:49 am 03 Apr 14

Everything old is new again:

http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/exhibns/month/mar2001.html

Not sure if they had Skywhales in those days, though – Moby-volant(?)

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