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Traffic is a mess in Lanyon

mikal 6 January 2015 44

I thought I’d let people know that traffic is a real mess in Lanyon at the moment. The ACT government has closed Tharwa Drive to put a new sewer main in, and that means that pretty much anything south of Woodcock Drive in Tuggeranong is a mess.

I just drove from Erindale Drive down to my house in Gordon, and traffic was banked up from the intersection of Drakeford Drive and Woodcock Drive back to nearly Isabella Drive. I imagine its worse now, it wasn’t 5pm when I attempted it.

I live in a part of Gordon where you can only leave the suburb if you go onto Woodcock Drive. I look forward to the next three weeks of not being able to get out of the suburb at peak times.

I can’t imagine why they thought closing Tharwa Drive was a good idea. Why can’t they do the work one lane at a time like they do everywhere else?


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JC JC 1:54 pm 08 Jan 15

James-T-Kirk said :

Of course it is a mess – The local council (Don’t blame for me – I voted no on the referendumb like most of us…) doesn’t even know that Tuggeranong exists, probably because the suburb doesn’t start with a ‘G’ like the local councils star baby – Gungahlin.

Hey people who allegedly represent us – How about you start listening to people who don’t live in Gungahlin…

Nah – That will never happen…

Must admit I have never understood the mentaility represented by this post (and comments on many issues here and on the CT). Do you lot in Tuggernong not get it that Gungahlin and now Molonglo is where new development is, so of course they are going to get more nice new shiny ‘stuff’ compred to poor old Tuggeranong (and Belconnen and Woden etc). Likewise in the late 70’s, 80’s early 90’s Tuggeranong was getting more than its fair share of nice new stuff, but poor old Belco and Weston Creek were starting to miss out, all for the same reason.

It isn’t abut favouring one child over another, it is about putting money into new development.

The irony of course is this distruption is being caused by works to enable a new fire/ambo station to be built. So gee Tuggernong is getting something new.

PS and no I don’t live in Tuggeranong, nor do I live in Gungahlin, I live in West Belconnen.

watto23 watto23 12:53 pm 08 Jan 15

Maya123 said :

I wonder if there are any dirt tracks across nature parks that could be opened for traffic for the duration of the road closure? I don’t know the dirt tracks in this area, but I have seen many that would be fine to drive. Low speed limits could be applied to them.

Their is a firetrail around the back of Stranger Hill/Bonython from Woodcock drive that could actually be used. They could also maybe use the dirt tracks from the top of Eaglemont retreat in Conder to Theodore as well. In fact although illegal, I’d be getting some bolt cutters, chainsaw, or move the rocks to enable that 🙂

Maya123 Maya123 11:44 am 08 Jan 15

I wonder if there are any dirt tracks across nature parks that could be opened for traffic for the duration of the road closure? I don’t know the dirt tracks in this area, but I have seen many that would be fine to drive. Low speed limits could be applied to them.

Genie Genie 11:28 am 08 Jan 15

harvyk1 said :

Genie said :

Alot of you are whinging it’s taking an hour to move 500m… that’s a 5min walk. Perhaps if traffic is so bad, you could park your car elsewhere and get a bit of exercise. I sure as hell would be parking my car and walking 5minutes over sitting in traffic for an hour.

Great, so it’s a 5 minute walk, how am I meant to then get the rest of the 25km into work given my car is still stuck on the wrong side of the traffic jam?

It looks like the powers which be have realised that actual management of the situation is in order -> http://esa.act.gov.au/2015/01/07/new-traffic-flow-measures-for-south-tuggeranong-announced/

I give them absolutely no points for creating this mess, but I am happy to see them actually trying to come up with an appropriate solution, unlike some of the people complaining about the complainers (strangely enough, mainly northsiders at least within my FB feed).

I meant park your car elsewhere other than your driveway. If feasable park at the other end of the suburb and walk 10-15mins. I know I would be doing this if it saved me 60mins + sitting in the car not moving.

KB1971 KB1971 11:08 am 08 Jan 15

gazket said :

why didn’t they just install a bio septic and stormwater system then they wouldn’t have to dig up the road at all.

Go away with your common sense!

gazket gazket 10:24 am 08 Jan 15

why didn’t they just install a bio septic and stormwater system then they wouldn’t have to dig up the road at all.

watto23 watto23 9:42 am 08 Jan 15

mikal said :

watto23 said :

Its the shortcutting going on that leads to most of the issues, because it means more cars sitting giving way to traffic on the right, most of which rat raced through the suburbs. The really needed to force the flow of traffic through the major roads and cut off the roundabout exit at Conder as well and funnel the traffic better. Its only because of impatient drivers taking shortcuts to avoid giving way to their right and thus jumping the queue that causes the issues.

What about the people who live on the short cut route? Should they somehow be forced to drive to the back of Condor to start their queueing as well?

I’m not sure how they can handle it. I know its happening because my parents live in Gordon and because I see it all the time through Bonython. There have obviously been many complaints about speeding because we seem to get a speed camera van quite often on the main road through Bonython a fair bit!

They could maybe put some temporary road blocks up to funnel traffic in an efficient way perhaps. Would cost money though, but that kind of driving is causing a lot of the delays as well. Roundabouts don’t work well when a steady stream of traffic is coming from a direction, while an even bigger stream of traffic is to the left of it. By the time they’ve worked it out the work will probably be completed.

KB1971 KB1971 9:17 am 08 Jan 15

Antagonist said :

It might be a good opportunity for Canberra Policing to remove a bunch of unregistered cars using their plate recognition toys while the traffic is bottle-necked. You could keep a bunch of tow trucks busy for hours. Just sayin …

Hehehe, when I worked for ACT rego, the most unregistered cars we got in one hit on a mornings worth or roadside inspections was in Charnwood………just sayin!

Even the Belco tip blitz days had more unregistered trailers/vehicles than down south. That was the only day that I saw a copper write so many TINS on his machine that they hit the ground before he ripped them off!

Antagonist Antagonist 9:04 am 08 Jan 15

It might be a good opportunity for Canberra Policing to remove a bunch of unregistered cars using their plate recognition toys while the traffic is bottle-necked. You could keep a bunch of tow trucks busy for hours. Just sayin …

mikal mikal 9:00 am 08 Jan 15

On reflection, I’m pretty annoyed with the Tuggeranong Community Council as well. Who are these unelected people who rubber stamp plans which are clearly bonkers? Why is it ok for a bunch of self appointed people to represent me? How can they claim to represent the interests of Tuggeranong if none of us are involved in their selection?

toadstool toadstool 8:55 am 08 Jan 15

Sounds like it would be quicker going into town via the cotter. Has anyone tried it?

KB1971 KB1971 8:30 am 08 Jan 15

The new traffic measures have not worked, my cousin is heading to Midura today. They left early (well before 7) and they waited 70 minutes.

I rode my pushy, and left at 6:45 and there was already a line south as far as you could see towards Banks from the main roundabout at the shops.

Antagonist Antagonist 8:02 am 08 Jan 15

Valleyboy said :

What with people in the Lanyon Valley being almost imprisoned there or being locked out for some hours at a time, and what with a proposal to spend doG-knows-how-much on a tramway at the other end of town that will only benefit a few thousand people, the present ACT government isn’t exactly courting votes from down this area.

Courting votes from the area? Based on the (non-existent) planning that has gone into the traffic, I don’t think TaMS or the MLA’s have a clue how many people live down there, and less of an idea how many people use the roads. They cannot court you if they do not know you exist. Maybe they are too busy daydreaming while looking at artists impressions of toy trains in Gungers.

Valleyboy Valleyboy 7:25 pm 07 Jan 15

It’s been announced today that they’re going to make both lanes of Woodcock Drive northbound only during 7-11am on weekdays. So, if you have to leave the Lanyon Valley in the morning – not necessarily to go to work for the day, but maybe for an appointment in the Tuggeranong town centre – then you can’t go back to your home before 11am?

Why couldn’t they have just closed and worked on one half of Tharwa Drive at a time?

What with people in the Lanyon Valley being almost imprisoned there or being locked out for some hours at a time, and what with a proposal to spend doG-knows-how-much on a tramway at the other end of town that will only benefit a few thousand people, the present ACT government isn’t exactly courting votes from down this area.

mikal mikal 3:49 pm 07 Jan 15

watto23 said :

Its the shortcutting going on that leads to most of the issues, because it means more cars sitting giving way to traffic on the right, most of which rat raced through the suburbs. The really needed to force the flow of traffic through the major roads and cut off the roundabout exit at Conder as well and funnel the traffic better. Its only because of impatient drivers taking shortcuts to avoid giving way to their right and thus jumping the queue that causes the issues.

What about the people who live on the short cut route? Should they somehow be forced to drive to the back of Condor to start their queueing as well?

watto23 watto23 3:32 pm 07 Jan 15

filash said :

Worse this morning from the Conder end (Box Hill Ave) as there were no marshals there to control the flow (I guess extra congestion was people trying to shortcut via Lanyon Marketplace?)
Once you got to Woodcock Dr it was ‘ok’ (still very slow) – so efforts there have made a positive impact.

Its the shortcutting going on that leads to most of the issues, because it means more cars sitting giving way to traffic on the right, most of which rat raced through the suburbs. The really needed to force the flow of traffic through the major roads and cut off the roundabout exit at Conder as well and funnel the traffic better. Its only because of impatient drivers taking shortcuts to avoid giving way to their right and thus jumping the queue that causes the issues.

mikal mikal 3:28 pm 07 Jan 15

harvyk1 said :

Genie said :

It looks like the powers which be have realised that actual management of the situation is in order -> http://esa.act.gov.au/2015/01/07/new-traffic-flow-measures-for-south-tuggeranong-announced/.

Yes, it will be interesting to see how people handle a one way Woodcock, especially if they want to get _into_ Gordon of a morning. Oh, and of course both those lands still need to merge down to one to get onto Drakeford, so that will be fun to watch.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 3:27 pm 07 Jan 15

KB1971 said :

Yep, its a PITA but its for three weeks people (probably not even that I would imagine……), build a bridge.

We’ve tried that.

They keep falling down.

harvyk1 harvyk1 2:47 pm 07 Jan 15

Genie said :

Alot of you are whinging it’s taking an hour to move 500m… that’s a 5min walk. Perhaps if traffic is so bad, you could park your car elsewhere and get a bit of exercise. I sure as hell would be parking my car and walking 5minutes over sitting in traffic for an hour.

Great, so it’s a 5 minute walk, how am I meant to then get the rest of the 25km into work given my car is still stuck on the wrong side of the traffic jam?

It looks like the powers which be have realised that actual management of the situation is in order -> http://esa.act.gov.au/2015/01/07/new-traffic-flow-measures-for-south-tuggeranong-announced/

I give them absolutely no points for creating this mess, but I am happy to see them actually trying to come up with an appropriate solution, unlike some of the people complaining about the complainers (strangely enough, mainly northsiders at least within my FB feed).

Genie Genie 2:11 pm 07 Jan 15

Is it wrong of me to suggest that now is the perfect time to consider carpooling, riding a bike or heaven forbid catch the bus !?

Alot of you are whinging it’s taking an hour to move 500m… that’s a 5min walk. Perhaps if traffic is so bad, you could park your car elsewhere and get a bit of exercise. I sure as hell would be parking my car and walking 5minutes over sitting in traffic for an hour.

I’d also be talking to coworkers to see if anyone lived nearby. Get a few less cars on the road. Chat to the boss to change your working hours, mine came in at 7am this morning to avoid the traffic.

Finally – I will point out this doesn’t directly effect me as I live northside. We’ve had our Majura Avenue carpark for over a year now, so I’m sure you can put up with this for a few weeks.

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