3 January 2008

Watson highest unlawful entries in ACT.

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It makes me wonder……… since moving into quite Watson in 2006, I have seen a surge of unlawful entries, graffiti and vehicle hooning in the area. My question is why the AFP have not yet set up a taskforce to target the the criminals carrying out these acts?? Especially since an article in the Canberra Times identified Watson as the highest break in suburb in the ACT (stats from National insurers).

I guess I will just take matters into my own hands as the AFP are failing to carry out their duties. – LOOK OUT CRIMS – DARRYL IS ON THE LOOSE.

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Not surprised really – it’s mostly a dark leafy suburb, right next to a busy highway and people can easily escape in any direction they want from there (Belco, Gungahlin, Inner north, Sydney)

Hey settle down there its – Fight crime TOGETHER and win – Do I see you doing your part. Not likely. Add to that define Intelligence led policing -New York pulled it off although they also have 800 Police per 100,000 populace. ACT is just over 250/100,000 – thats the reason its reactive.

Chase the same wankers over and over again until you finally catch them when they mess up only for them to be let out again. The whole system needs an overhaul.

darryl_smith3310:27 am 06 Jan 08

Being overworked/underpaid/abused is no excuse to not/not do your job properly. Having served with the police for numerous years I know what police have to put up with, however, it is evident that something is not working with ACT policing. Maybe the lack of Intelligence Led Policing or lack of pro active policing has something to do with it. From the police I speak to, it appears that it is all reactive policing in the ACT and that won’t stop the crim. As for the comment that the public should approach the govt for more police… well yes they should, but the police force members should also take action by putting pressure on their police association to request more troops/funding. Bottom line is – the police have a job to do, despite being abused, misunderstood, underpaid etc they should treat every job they attend with the enthusiasm of the first job they ever attended. Whats the motto “TO FIGHT CRIME AND WIN” You are not winning at the moment.

“Two of the most ignorant, full of themselves, overweight, overpaid and ill educuated people I have ever met.”

Never met an overpaid cop. It has to be one of the worst jobs I can think of. Low pay silly hours including shift work all over the place. And having to deal with other peoples problems every day.

In qld they work a silly 4 shift monthly system where you do mornings for a week then afternoons then evenings then nights. So you can never settle into a routine lol.

The level of service the ACT public get from the police is far and beyond any other jurisdiction. Half the stuff people have police attend here wouldn’t even get a look in in other states – you’d just be talking to someone over the phone.

AS for repeat offenders point the finger where it belongs – Courts, holiday resorts (Gaols), or even ACT up the bot bot dating sites.

el ......VNBerlinaV811:18 am 05 Jan 08

More police = more money Sepi. The Government seems to have far more important things to spend money on, like Al Grasby statues, speed cameras and arboretums.

Hmm…If only we had a decent opposition.

I know that we need more police – I just don’t know how to get them. The govt used to talk about the issue, but now they’ve gone really quiet on it.

It annoys me though – the more kids that get away with stealing numberplates and smashing bottles all over the streets for fun, the more they just progress to worse and worse crimes.


If you were over worked, got no recognition for the work you do, were misunderstood by the public, stressed, and had to deal with filthy druggies and whingers everyday, would you be interested?

Maybe if the gd coppers weren’t flogged when they went to work it might be a different story. ppl think coppers have all the time in the world and should be out there just patrolling the problem areas….your right they should be, but realistically, the AFP hardly have the numbers to cop with the constant reports that continue to come. They go job to job to job, may get a meal in there somewhere, and when its time to knock off, they all of about 30 minutes (sometimes) to type up the paper work.

Rather than direct your frustration at the coppers, redirect it at the Govt! they are the only ppl that can do something about this problem!

I like to bag them. I am related (by only marriage, thankfully) to 2 of the ACT’s constable plods. Two of the most ignorant, full of themselves, overweight, overpaid and ill educuated people I have ever met. The male half enjoys beating up supposed “crims” and also wading into peaceful protests to thump people. The workplace culture of these federal employees that I have witnessed is disgusting.

In my opinion, its just a simple matter of maths.

In the whole of the ACT there are about 180 general duties police.
Due to shift work only about 30% of those are on shift at any one time (with some shifts overlapping).
Due to leave, courses and court take out about another 15% at any one time and you are left with 45 odd police to attend “reports of suspicious behaviour” for the entire territory. (Traffic cops, beats, detectives and tactical police of course have their own work to do).

Don’t bag them, these guys work to the bones of their arses and over a 10 hour shift choose when it’s best to run or walk based on their own discretion on when it is worth it.

AIoC classification, rather.

My mistake, having reread where I got the unlawful entry impression from, its an Bureau von Stats classification for totalling up numbers into graphs and charts and whatnot.

Canberra police are suprememly uninterested in reports of suspicious behaviour.

Even a plod reporting to neighbourhood watch said that if you try to report something and get fobbed off try again later and see if you speak to someone different.

Unlawful entry? I think you mean “burglary” s31 Criminal Code http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/2002-51/current/pdf/2002-51.pdf

Despite what you think, there is a lot of hard work being done by good people.

darryl_smith3312:03 pm 04 Jan 08

TAD, you are the tool. I have watched AFP members attend unlawful entries on 3 occassions, and not once did they do the basic door knock of neighbors to identify if anyone saw anything!! It appears to me that the AFP are not coping with local issues due to a lack of training or just bad attitudes.

Our B&Es get called “unlawful entry”, and our auto thefts can occasionally get called “drive motor vehicle without consent”.

The moment you corss the border you’re in a different territory, but in general it might as well be another world.

Funny, if this post was about Queanbeyan it would be titled “Crime City has highest rates of break and enters”.

Instead it’s “Unlawful entries” in the ACT is it?

Maybe if the residents rang the coppers and reported suspicious behavior, there might be a change.

It is and will always be a knee jerk reaction to these problems. ie more reports = more patrols!

popgoescanberra9:18 pm 03 Jan 08

We got robbed in Griffith last year by a 12 year old who was doing it to feed his sister’s drug habit. He turned himself in because he wanted to be with his best friend who was already in juvenile detention. Bit sad. Annoyed we weren’t insured. Didn’t realise it was so cheap to insure your house. The cops described Griffith as “in between shitsville and turdsville”. How nice. I always thought it was lovely and hadn’t had any problems in 2 years before that.

No, a position commonly referred to as the boss’s bum boy. (driving, answering his phone, may or may not include any any actual bum)

VG was transferred to an area where it’s best to keep ones head down.

I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit.
Its the only way to be sure.

Yeah, and most burgleries in Kingston were linked to Fraser Court.

Cluster bomb the Guvvie Flats on Northbourne Ave – end of problem!

A few years ago Kingston was the place to be seen breaking in. It used to outrank other suburbs by far – think it was a few years in a row too. Go Watson! (is it in the built up leggo townhouse area or the housing area?)

Pick almost any suburb in Canberra, its all the same. Fact is that the ACT courts view burglaries in the same light as stealing a mars bar. The cops catch them and then the revolving door starts.

The reason Wartson is so vulnerable is because it’s more or less on the back route from Charnwood to Queanbeyan so the crims can stop off on the way and stock up…

Whatever happened to our local HeroCop VG? In days gone past he would have been all over this post like shit on a blanket.

If I caught someone in my house – F*** the law. I’ll be defending myself and my property with whatever force I deem reasonable at the time thanks.

that is, residents without a criminal record or drawing centrelink payments 🙂

i’ve lived in 3 suburbs in inner north for the last 8 years and have been broken into 3 times in that period. i say either increase police presence/patrols in this area or issue all residents with taser guns.

“(The courts won’t do anything anyway).”

That’s where you’re probably wrong, VYB. Someone defending their home would most likely feel the full force of the law, especially if they’ve beaten on a poor little haouse-breaking junkie who’s had a hard life 😛

If you catch a criminal in your house, whip their ass. (The courts won’t do anything anyway).

Good comments, TAD – yeah, it’s all too hard so the AFP should do nothing?

Once the crims have finished raping Watson, where ever you live could be the next targetted suburb.

It’s not the AFP’s fault you chose to move into a shit suburb.

Darryl, you are a tool.

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