Westin v. Carney

Carney got punished for his crime.. Westin didn;t.. Plain and simple. Perhaps Carney did get off light.. But Westin killed someone and has pretty much got a slap on the wrist.

The thought of those two getting together and breeding makes me sick. Their children may even be another species, scientific name….
Homo-Drunk’n’dissordilous

Prehaps we could set Westin and Carney up in some sort of relationship? Two parent family would be better for the child, and everyone knows the differnce between stay at home mum and unemployed.

Plus, in another 15 or 16 years the kid can get a licence and drive them around.

sepi, true… but which is the lesser of two evils? Stay with the no hoper mum and the kid is screwed. Go to a foster family and she may still be screwed? I would like to think the kid’s prospects would be better in foster care. Even just a bit.

I can’t believe the way people idolise football players, was it Orwell that explained sport is just distraction for the proles? Sounds right to me.

Sammy, I disagree. Society is worse off thanks to “role models” like football players.

Why should we reward and glorify people who can hurt each other the best?

A “great football player” is often a poor excuse for a human being.

Westin is a slapper, and provides no social benefit, and a large social cost.

Carney is a great football player, and provides plenty of social benefit, with little social cost.

Case closed.

Moral outrage? I am outraged that previous convictions, good behaviour bonds and suspended sentences mean nothing in the ACT – whether you’re a star or whether you’re struggling.

Consider Matthew Newton’s conviction on the same day as Carney and Westin were last in court – not that I am condoning his behaviour. He pushed his girlfriend at home and has had his contracts torn up. The judge said she had to record a conviction to send the message that high profile people do not receive preferential treatment.

He should get into training – I am sure the Raiders will eventually have an opening at half back after a few more Carney episodes.

Sadly the prospects for children placed in care are very poor. This is why judges aim to keep them with their families, even when the families are disfunctional, ala Ms Westin.

If I remember rightly, Westin repeatedly violated her bail conditions, prior to being sentenced – i.e. being before the court for the death of another person didn’t seem to slow her down.

Well guess what folks, plenty of ‘normal’ (low-profile non famous type) people have been done DUI multiple times and escaped any kind of custodial sentence (I’m aware of a chappie that’s been done either 3 or 4 times that hasn’t even been sentenced to community service).

Not saying it’s right, just how it is.

Westing is a habitual drug and alcohol abuser with a child, who has a large number of offenses involving drugs, violence and driving. After a string of offenses, she fled police causing the death of another road user.

Carney on the other hand is just stupid and immature. He doesn’t know the difference between right and wrong. Hell, he might not even know what those two words mean.

My point is while Carney did get off somewhat lightly in my opinion, he has prospects. Embarrassment in the public eye, treatment for his problems and hopefully a serious threat from league bosses that he will risk his professional career will go a long way to setting him straight. Put simply, he is not a lost cause.
Westin on the other hand is repeat, serious offender whose activities are apparently becoming more serious. There is also the issue of her child. As a primary carer for a child, her actions are endangering both her life, and that of her child. Where as Carney has hope for rehabilitation as the courts put it, Westin has no hope. All that can be done now is to deal with Westin harshly and promptly for the safety of her child, and the community.

So, they were both driving erratically under the influence, both while their licences were suspended, both failed to stop when directed to by police, but by pure coincidence Carney didn’t harm anyone?

Seems to be the same level of culpability to me, just fortunate that Carney didn’t kill someone.

I’m not trying to diminish Westin’s wrongdoing, but it is strange that our criminal justice system places such a degree of influence on chance.

Wouldn’t surprise me if it was. Apparently after being told on several times he still doesn’t know the difference between right and wrong.

What a load of crap.

Does anyone know what car Carney drives? A white Lexus IS200 with bling wheels was seen in Bruce today – a girl I know swears it was Carney driving.

heh. so how is Carney gonna get to the game now.. mummy gonna drive him ?

loathe to bring this in, as I only heard it on the radio, but was Ms Westin’s prior for ASSULTING A 70yr old in a supermarket???
Well, sympathy runs thin

killed someone did he?
assulted them?

not actually that equivalent?
who was it then, put in a link!

If it was one of the Raiders, well, no doubt there was a fair bit of discussion on these pages but, youre right, a fair bit less outrage..probably because of the way big clubs support players, rather than the rest of society begrudgingly footing the bill for their existence and screw-ups

Indeed. One is a drug addled fiend, living on welfare, with prior convictions, who killed an innocent elderly woman, on the day she was due to appear in court (and didn’t) on another misdemeanor.

You bleeding heart muppet.

It does bear comparison, because until she killed that unfortunate lady, Amber Westin had previous vehicular charges against her. Had the punishment been more realistic one that she really felt, she may not have gone on to kill someone and devastate a family. Should we wait until the elite sports star kills someone too to impose a real sentence? It’s time we stopped idolising these guys just because they are good on a sports field and treating them as better than the rest of us!

I’d say, measure for measure, that Carney got it harder than Westin due to his public profile, not the reverse.

Once is a drug farked scumbag who killed an innocent lady whilst avoiding a court appearance

The other is a rugby league player who went dui and then was caught driving without a licence.

When Todd kills someone, let there be howls of outrage. He’s lost his licence forever, been publicly humiliated, is now on a rehab program, has got a job, is doing community service.

The other is a doey bitch who was busted taking pot and intravenous drug equipment into the remand centre when she was serving periodic detention.

Hardly bares comparision…