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When a Red Traffic Arrow Needs Explanation

By tactless - 25 November 2014 17

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Are we, as a society, officially doomed when we need a sign to tell us what needs to happen if the traffic arrows are red?

The image was taken turning right onto Gungahlin Drive from Gundaroo Drive.

I’m trying to think of any circumstance that would require the signage in the image.  Maybe someone went through the red arrow once and got off with the reason of “No sign told me I couldn’t”

If you need the sign, maybe you should just hand in your licence!

What’s Your opinion?


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17 Responses to
When a Red Traffic Arrow Needs Explanation
Lenient 7:16 pm 26 Nov 14

For the benefit of those requiring their licences to be handed back, these signs (which are a nationwide standard) instruct people where to stop. It goes without saying (at least to those that deserve to retain their permit to drive) that you stop at red arrows when turning in that direction. Most traffic lights have a stop line, some lights that don’t have this feature use this sign instead. Some lights have neither requiring some judgement (which is probably asking a bit much for Canberra drivers) on behalf of the driver to stop as near as practicable to, but before reaching, the nearest or only traffic arrows.

switch 3:18 pm 26 Nov 14

curmudgery said :

No. The contract stipulates that a certain number of signs will be purchased during the period. Failure to comply is in breach of the terms and conditions of the contract and may require the involvement of lawyers.

Having a number of prepared but uninstalled signs will be highlighted by the auditors as an inefficiency and there will be some explaining to do, mark my words. This will be reflected in the spreadsheet.

The best solution is for a few members of the government (not many) to travel overseas and find facts relating to this issue. Until their report has been tabled, signs should be installed reminding drivers to obey all signs.

It’s quite straightforward.

Ah, thanks for explaining that. I thought it was going to be difficult to understand, but you’ve made it so easy to see the solution.

Now I’ll go read the “Do Canberra’s politicians waste your money” thread.

Jungle Jim 2:08 pm 26 Nov 14

I can’t quite tell from the picture, but wouldn’t this be one of those setups where there’s no green or amber arrow?

If it is, then this is to reiterate to people, they can turn right (with care) with the solid green unless there’s a red arrow?

I’m sure I’ve seen a few of these setups around town – not sure whether they all come with the (albeit redundant) signage.

Antagonist 12:16 pm 26 Nov 14

Evilomlap said :

It’s simply there to let you know *where* to stop when the arrow is red (usually used at intersections where it’s not entirely clear the exact line where you’re supposed to stop).

Down here in Tuggeranong, we have a white line on the road called a ‘hold line’ that tells us where to stop and wait at red lights. It is a genius idea. Hopefully it will catch on in Belco soon. It should save the taxpayer a bundle in redundant signage 🙂

pink little birdie 10:41 am 26 Nov 14

They need one of these at the UC intersection on Ginninderra drive. coming out of UC

Leon 10:36 am 26 Nov 14

Canberra has plenty of legally redundant road signs that are there to accommodate many drivers’ ignorance of the road rules.

The best examples are the “Give Way to Pedestrians” signs that remind turning drivers that they must give way to pedestrians who are crossing the road the drivers are entering.

The worst examples are the signs in Civic that remind pedestrians to look for drivers and cyclists who don’t know the give way rules.

watto23 10:28 am 26 Nov 14

m_ratt said :

A reminder to the idiots that seem to forget that they need to stop at/behind the stop line.
If you crawl over the line at that point you’ll get a ticket from the red light camera.

Unnecessary I agree, but hopefully it’s there to provide another way to fob off complains from idiots/

Highly unlikely as the red light camera triggers when the car has entered the intersection. Its not sensitive or accurate enough to detect a car that has its front wheels over the line edging forward slowly. Where you can get caught though is when the camera automatically fires as the lights go red, to catch red light runners. If you happen to be stopped but over the line then, a fine is probably headed your way.

curmudgery 9:59 am 26 Nov 14

No. The contract stipulates that a certain number of signs will be purchased during the period. Failure to comply is in breach of the terms and conditions of the contract and may require the involvement of lawyers.

Having a number of prepared but uninstalled signs will be highlighted by the auditors as an inefficiency and there will be some explaining to do, mark my words. This will be reflected in the spreadsheet.

The best solution is for a few members of the government (not many) to travel overseas and find facts relating to this issue. Until their report has been tabled, signs should be installed reminding drivers to obey all signs.

It’s quite straightforward.

Pork Hunt 7:50 pm 25 Nov 14

A year or three ago on here, I posted a photo of a “No Stopping” sign bolted to the traffic signal outside Manuka Oval at the intersection of Canberra Ave and Manuka Cir.

Maya123 7:29 pm 25 Nov 14

In some countries it is permitted to turn right (equivalent to our left) on a red light after stopping. I guess this makes local rules clearer.

m_ratt 6:25 pm 25 Nov 14

A reminder to the idiots that seem to forget that they need to stop at/behind the stop line.
If you crawl over the line at that point you’ll get a ticket from the red light camera.

Unnecessary I agree, but hopefully it’s there to provide another way to fob off complains from idiots/

Evilomlap 5:49 pm 25 Nov 14

It’s simply there to let you know *where* to stop when the arrow is red (usually used at intersections where it’s not entirely clear the exact line where you’re supposed to stop).

ExarKun 1:58 pm 25 Nov 14

I’m not sure why it’s being used in the instance shown, but the sign is useful when roadworks are in effect and temporary traffic arrangements are being used such that the stop line may be some distance from the intersection and/or the lights.

neus 1:21 pm 25 Nov 14

I was wondering the same thing…surely that’s the only one of it’s kind in OZ!

Solidarity 12:57 pm 25 Nov 14

I’m more surprised that you’re surprised.

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