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Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows talk by Dr Melanie Joy

By Barcham 14 August 2013 21

Those of you who enjoy meaty discussion about various issues may be interested in this:

Dr Melanie Joy, Ph.D., Ed.M. is a Harvard-educated psychologist, professor of psychology and sociology at the University of Massachusetts, Boston, she is the best selling Author of the award-winning primer on carnism, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows.

Dr Joy’s captivating presentation, based on her award-winning book of the same name, explains carnism, the invisible belief system that shapes our perceptions of the meat (and eggs/dairy) we eat, so that we love some animals and eat others without knowing why.

Dr Joy describes how carnism, like other isms (sexism, racism, etc.), is most harmful when it is unrecognized; and it is sustained by complex social and psychological mechanisms.

Using powerful imagery, thought-provoking analyses, and a compelling narrative, Joy explains the ways in which carnism conditions us to unknowingly act against our core values, our own interests, and the interests of others. By illuminating the invisible mechanisms of carnism, Joy helps audiences become more informed consumers and empowered citizens.

Dr Melanie Joy will present her extraordinary presentation over two hours with an in depth Q&A for audiences. Following the event Dr Joy will be available for book signings of her award winning book, “Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows” Books will be available for purchase at the venue.

Date: Friday 23 August 2013
Time: 7:00-9:00pm with doors at 6:30
Venue: Larry Sitsky Recital Room, School of Music Building, Australian National University
Tickets: $10 for Students and $15 for Adults
Bookings: http://www.janegoodall.org.au/?page_id=220

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RedDogInCan 11:19 pm 14 Aug 13

Talk about over the top hyperbole

best selling author
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #59,507 in Books
#19 in Books > Science & Math > Nature & Ecology > Animal Rights

award winning book x 3
Even her web site doesn’t mention which particular awards.

captivating presentation, extraordinary presentation
Its just a Powerpoint slide show.

justin heywood 10:29 pm 14 Aug 13

Great to live in Canberra where this kind of stuff is just 15-20 minutes away for most of us.

johnboy said :

Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

That’s why we like our herbivores.

That’s an attractive theory, but there are plenty of exceptions. At times slow-running lowlanders apparently made up a significant portion of a New Guinea highlander’s diet (Tim Flannery, Throwim Way Leg, (I think)).

My own theory is that dogs (and to a lesser extent cats) are inclined to like us and be affectionate. They identify with us as individuals and us with them. Cows and pigs, generally speaking, ignore us and are therefore much easier to put in the ‘other’ category.

But I’m going along to find out.

poetix 10:15 pm 14 Aug 13

rosscoact said :

I would have thought it was a judo-christian thing with the cloven hoofed animals.

Judo-Christian. Sounds like a job for boxing Jesus.

http://www.art4god.com/html/?go=product&id=un

Jethro 10:01 pm 14 Aug 13

johnboy said :

Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

That’s why we like our herbivores.

Not to mention, if we farmed carnivorous animals for food we would also have to farm herbivorous animals to feed them. Cows are much less food energy intensive to farm than lions.

Producing a herbivore = Plant –> Herbivore
Producing a carnivore = Plant –> Herbivore —> Carnivore

rosscoact 9:02 pm 14 Aug 13

rosscoact said :

I would have thought it was a judo-christian thing with the cloven hoofed animals.

Dog’s pretty good in winter though as any north Vietnamese will tell you

here it is

Leviticus 11:3

2″Speak to the sons of Israel, saying, ‘These are the creatures which you may eat from all the animals that are on the earth. 3Whatever divides a hoof, thus making split hoofs, and chews the cud, among the animals, that you may eat. 4’Nevertheless, you are not to eat of these, among those which chew the cud, or among those which divide the hoof: the camel, for though it chews cud, it does not divide the hoof, it is unclean to you.…

And that’s why we don’t eat dogs, or camels, or kangaroos, or spiders

Objective 8:50 pm 14 Aug 13

poetix said :

Objective said :

>sustained by complex social and psychological mechanisms

To have uncovered such harmful impetuses to eating habits that have existed since caveman days. This broad must be brilliant.

Using a word like ‘broad’ show that you are feel vaguely threatened by the topic of discussion, or the speaker’s credentials, and feel the need to put the her down through clumsy slang. So boring.

I expect a lot of little jokes like Bacon’s ‘meaty’, though.

You’re projecting pretty hard there buddy. The only thing I’m possibly threatened by is the ability for people to lap up such nonsense.

In before you claim me calling you buddy implies I’m threatened. Bush psychologist psychoanalyzing me over the internet – top lel.

Blen_Carmichael 6:41 pm 14 Aug 13

Zivko’s Butcher does a pretty mean spicy salami, if anyone’s interested. He’s at the Woden Markets every Sunday.

bundah 6:34 pm 14 Aug 13

Pork Hunt said :

johnboy said :

Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

That’s why we like our herbivores.

I would’ve thought their sensitive ears precluded that genre of music…

Ha death metal is an acquired taste..

Pork Hunt 6:19 pm 14 Aug 13

johnboy said :

Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

That’s why we like our herbivores.

I would’ve thought their sensitive ears precluded that genre of music…

davo101 5:09 pm 14 Aug 13

Kalfour said :

Davo aside, who among the omnivores on here can explain why we don’t eat dog?

Discounting cultural aspects (apparently we’ve been giving dogs human burials for more than 10 000 years) it probably comes down to economics. It’s a hell of a better return to use your dog to herd a bunch of docile bags of meat around while they convert plants, which you can’t eat, into delicious meals, that come in a convenient leather carry case, than to eat the dog.

Deref 5:05 pm 14 Aug 13

AAMC said :

Kalfour said :

Davo aside, who among the omnivores on here can explain why we don’t eat dog?

Parallel evolution of two species; each supported by the other facilitating survival and evolutionary dominance, engraining both species predisposition to herd/pack behaviour with each other.
Hence, humans have a tendency to see dog as a member of their own pack/herd/clan; consuming your own herd limits the ability for the herd to survive……would be my guess.

I’d go along with that, but it’s not a universal taboo; in many Asian cultures dog’s a regular on the menu, as is cat.

Ben_Dover 5:00 pm 14 Aug 13

Stop the human race, I no longer wish to take part….

neanderthalsis 4:59 pm 14 Aug 13

Kalfour said :

Davo aside, who among the omnivores on here can explain why we don’t eat dog?

Personality goes a long way.

This might explain it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0zJSgHDnpw

MrBigEars 4:46 pm 14 Aug 13

I imagine there’s cultural-physiological response to disease and parasites. Like why we don’t eat the brains of our enemies because of kuru. But that’s getting into the realm of evolutionary psychology and I avoid it like kuru.

poetix 4:23 pm 14 Aug 13

Objective said :

>sustained by complex social and psychological mechanisms

To have uncovered such harmful impetuses to eating habits that have existed since caveman days. This broad must be brilliant.

Using a word like ‘broad’ show that you are feel vaguely threatened by the topic of discussion, or the speaker’s credentials, and feel the need to put the her down through clumsy slang. So boring.

I expect a lot of little jokes like Bacon’s ‘meaty’, though.

AAMC 4:23 pm 14 Aug 13

Kalfour said :

Davo aside, who among the omnivores on here can explain why we don’t eat dog?

Parallel evolution of two species; each supported by the other facilitating survival and evolutionary dominance, engraining both species predisposition to herd/pack behaviour with each other.
Hence, humans have a tendency to see dog as a member of their own pack/herd/clan; consuming your own herd limits the ability for the herd to survive……would be my guess.

rosscoact 4:22 pm 14 Aug 13

I would have thought it was a judo-christian thing with the cloven hoofed animals.

Dog’s pretty good in winter though as any north Vietnamese will tell you

    johnboy 4:28 pm 14 Aug 13

    Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

    That’s why we like our herbivores.

Kalfour 4:01 pm 14 Aug 13

Davo aside, who among the omnivores on here can explain why we don’t eat dog?

davo101 3:54 pm 14 Aug 13

Why We Love Dogs

Why not–with a garlic sauce.

Objective 3:21 pm 14 Aug 13

>sustained by complex social and psychological mechanisms

To have uncovered such harmful impetuses to eating habits that have existed since caveman days. This broad must be brilliant.

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