Seems there is an ever increasing crime rate for the weekend of summernats.
At what point do we say no, and at what point do we start claiming for our share of the profits to fix all the property damage cause by interstate guests.
Just this morning I witnessed fireworks being let off at 1:30am in a grass paddock at the caravan park in Watson. Police arrived but drove around and didn’t even get out of their car… probably due to being out numbered 500 to 1… and on a 36+ degree day in the middle of a heat wave, that’s not asking for a bushfire at all.
How long do we have to put up with this stupid excuse for people to act brain dead so close to a largely populated area?
I thinks it’s time to move it out of EPIC and find a much more appropriate area.
Any thoughts welcome.
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Why do you assume that if one likes highly modified motor vehicles that have been lovingly modified by their owners then they must be brain dead. That’s like saying all those who choose to live in Watson and then complain about noise from EPIC are brain dead. That aside, can you please point out all of this massive property damage that your claiming happens, appears to be very little?
And as for illegal fireworks, they seem to get let off all throughout the year, not just during summernats.
I for one welcome the injection of funds into this city and I hope that summernats is around for another 25 years just to annoy you
On what evidence or statistics have you based your assertion that crime has increased as a result of Summernats? One firecracker, whilst antisocial, is hardly a crime wavemor compelling reason to can it. By that reasoning, school holidays should cease due to increase in vandalism.
This was my first Summernats living nearby, and I have to admit I was worried about the noise, antisocial behaviour etc. etc. Those fears have proven to be totally unfounded so far, there are police everywhere, and the event has had an extremely limited impact on my life, which considering the sheer number of people involved, I think is pretty impressive.
I personally find the idea of standing around with no shirt on to watch people rev their engines and ruin their tyres completely retarded, but these people are causing minimal inconvenience for everyone else, and are spending lots of money in our city.
Some of you (I’m looking at you Coggo, Pork Hunt and Comic and Gamer Nerd) need to stop being such stuck up snobs and start being more tolerant of other people.
Maybe you should ask Woolworths Dickson for a share of the profits they make over the summernats weekend to help pay for the massive spike in crime. The summernats weekend generates more sales for woolies in Dickson than the two weeks before christmas….. Moral to the story, stay at home, switch off your television, mobile, computer, draw the curtains, rock back and forth and say “take me to a better place” and GET OVER IT !!!!!
In the absence of hard data – I’m sure there’s a spike in crime just from all the people coming into town, going out drinking and whatnot…. but I’m not convinced it’s necessarily worse than something like foreshore.You’re really need hard numbers from the AFP to have a sensible discussion on this.
Do you have any other examples other then fireworks?
1:30am is not the middle of the day on a 36+ degree heat wave day, it is umm, at 1:30 in the morning. So cut the melodrama, it makes your post sound a lot like a NIMBY.
I must admit I am no great fan of Summernats, I personally reckon it has lost it’s way. But the crowd figures suggest there are those out there that like it so why should they not be given a chance to enjoy something they love? As for appropriateness of the venue, the showground so is a perfect place for it.
PS when did you buy nearby? Not sometime in the last quarter of a century I would hope.
Getting rid of the dozen or so scumbag families known to the commit the majority of crime in the ACT would be a far more effective means of reducing property (and other) crime.
Aren’t you lucky that the AFP does have a crime stats page.
Looking at the 3 month period Jan – Mar, which has a couple of big times of the year, New Year, Summernats, Skyfire, Australia Day, the Multicultural Festival etc. It appears that that time of year over the past 4 years is either a little bit below the crime rate for the rest of the year or about the same.
Sooo… Your assertion in this case is wrong, sorry about that.
http://www.police.act.gov.au/crime-and-safety/crime-statistics.aspx
But don’t let facts get in the way of a good story.
It will never be a legitimate car show until they ban all bogan trash from attending.
milkman said :
Darn straight! If anything, crime might actually decrease during Summernats because the said bottom feeders could be out boozing it up with their fellow clique, too busy to make their living from robbing others .. birds of a feather.
Don’t much care for SummerNats, but after we deal with the SummerNats crime spree, we could then get rid of the thieving-sum public servants that take in excess of $100K per annum of our taxes to bludge all day in what is little more than child minding for adults.
Coggo, I suspect that might accurately describe you?
Yesterday I was driving down the Federal Highway service road near the Eagle Hawk and had to contend with a bunch of d!ckheads heading to the Nats in a Toyota Coaster van or similar swerving across both lanes back and forth down the road at speed.
I found this especially awesome given my one year old son was in the car with me.
I hope they rolled it down the road and smashed into a tree.
Tryiton said :
I find it especially awesome when a greeny bicycle rider swerves in and out of the lanes while I’m sitting on a 300 bus with children on it …. Oops, my bad, that’s an everyday occurrence on the mean streets of C***berra……
Troll ???
Cycling in the Cotter this time of year, some of the most aware drivers are clearly ‘Nats guys out on a run.
As far as I’m concerned, all those people in the Inner North, Gungahlin and Belconnen who voted for Labor and The Greens and kept this ACT government in power despite the majority wanting a Liberal government deserve everything they get. You let the rest of us down and now you’re getting your just desserts.
You can look at statistics all you like but the fact is that it’s actually got to be reported or witness by police.
And it doesn’t just affect people who live or work in Watson.
If you want more stats, there were at least 10 different cars pulled over by police on my way to work (in Watson) and once here we have to deal with people speeding up and down the street I work in, burnouts about once an hour, beer bottles and cans thrown onto the property, and the building was broken into last year causing $5000 in damages.
But of course this isn’t hard numbers so I don’t know why I’m bothering.
esp said :
C’mon Dr Khoresh, here’s a false analogy for you.
Car vs van. Potential casualties: one or more dickheads plus one or more innocent people.
Cyclist vs bus. Potential casualties: one dickhead.
Aeek said :
Of course. Running over a cyclist could put some nasty scratches on their pride and joy.
I think you will find that events which bring lots of tourists very often also result in an increase in petty crime and a bit of annoyance for the locals. Try Byron Bay or the Gold Coast on New Year’s Eve.
Your choice is simple – live in a morgue that nobody wants to visit, or cop a bit of inconvenience and reap the benefits.
Summernats is a saviour for many businesses in what is otherwise a dead zone of the year – and it only lasts for a few days. The vast majority of participants are law abiding, if a bit noisy at times. It is heavily policed.
Just be thankful that Year 12s from all over don’t want to have Schoolies here. Now that would be worth complaining about!
Well it’s been renewed for another 7 years so you can whinge all you like but you’re going to have to deal with it!
Roundhead89 said :
Coggo is definitely a parasitic Labor/Greens voter who works in the public service and thinks he/she has been tasked by God to inflict his/her normative value judgements about how other people should live society save us from ourselves.
I suggest Coggo should get a government grant for his/her work, and maybe a human rights award?
Or maybe he/she could just f*&k off???
As someone that hates the summernats. I don’t notice any increase in crime. I work around a lot of the area where Summernats occurs.
What I note is lots of infringements, but not crime. They’re not here to rob/assault/misc. They are here with their cars or to watch cars. Some of the guys with cars do stupid things. Many of them get caught. And yay. Increased revenue to ACT through fines.
I avoid Summernats like the plague. But at the same time, I appreciate that there are rev-heads out there. Besides. F1 teams love cars too. I’d love to see people argue that the guys that design those cars are brain-dead.
Roundhead89 said :
A touch slow, are we?
Roundhead89 said :
Oh FFS, really?
Presumably if the majority of people wanted a Liberal government, then the majority of people would have voted for the Liberal Party. The majority of people voted for parties which weren’t the Liberal Party.
Roundhead89 said :
Well said.
But some how i think the pork barrel express (chuu chu) is going to be worth putting up for summernats.
Now if only they spent the tax dollars they got from the south in the south, rather than robbing the hard workers and giving it to the el’ cheapo houses.
Coggo said :
Sounds like downtown Chicago.
Roundhead89 said :
I think you’re on the wrong thread mate. The election one was last year.
If you want more stats, there were at least 10 cars pulled over. Stats give us a number not a guess. Twat. Everytime I am pulled over for a breatho is it a crime. I hope so much coggo is a troll, the other option is he is a massive wanker