Driving very fast without a licence? Allegedly the Raiders’ Josh Dugan

By 8 February, 2012 36

The Herald Sun brings news that Canberra’s young star Josh Dugan will face the magistrate for speeding despite already having a suspended licence:

Dugan will appear in ACT Magistrates Court next week to face charges of high-range speeding and driving while suspended.

The Daily Telegraph understands police will allege he was travelling at more than 105km/h in a 60km/h zone.

The NRL All Stars fullback pleaded not guilty to both charges from August last year that the Canberra Raiders chose to keep under wraps – not even informing the NRL as most clubs do out of courtesy when police charges are laid against their players.

They also organised his legal representation for the hearing on Thursday next week.

Josh’s management say he wasn’t aware of the suspension at the time in question.

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36 Responses to Driving very fast without a licence? Allegedly the Raiders’ Josh Dugan
#1
pptvb10:38 am, 08 Feb 12

ala Carney….Tatts don’t make you a man.

#2
Thumper11:10 am, 08 Feb 12

Yawn..

Another one…

#3
Spectra12:13 pm, 08 Feb 12

I’m not clear on how someone could be unaware their license had been suspended. Was it some kind of double-secret-suspension?

#4
dph12:36 pm, 08 Feb 12

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

#5
Thumper12:45 pm, 08 Feb 12

Spectra said :

I’m not clear on how someone could be unaware their license had been suspended. Was it some kind of double-secret-suspension?

Raiders management ‘forgot’ to tell him?

#6
Mess12:47 pm, 08 Feb 12

dph said :

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

and I suppose Union / AFL players are just sooooo much better.

#7
NoImRight1:12 pm, 08 Feb 12

I would say RL continues to implode but it seems it seems doesnt. No matter how often this stuff comes up no real action is taken to deal with the root cause. Every now and then a player is sacrificed and forced to scuttle of to the UK and live in abject splendour but it otherwise the beat goes on.

#8
Eppo1:22 pm, 08 Feb 12

Mess said :

dph said :

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

and I suppose Union / AFL players are just sooooo much better.

Well, yes. They are.

I can’t remember the last time a Brumbies player was disqualified for driving, had simulated sex with a dog, got drunk and pissed on other patrons at a bar, got caught drink driving, took a dump in a hotel etc etc etc…

If RL players are not as badly behaved, I guess they’re just much worse at not being caught?

#9
NoImRight1:23 pm, 08 Feb 12

I really must reread before I hit submit. Sorry for the extra words wot dun nufin. Sigh

#10
VYBerlinaV8_is_back1:28 pm, 08 Feb 12

“Josh’s management say he wasn’t aware of the suspension at the time in question.”

Was he aware that he was driving more than 45km/h over the speed limit?

#11
New Yeah1:31 pm, 08 Feb 12

dph said :

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

Or does it just typify young males?

#12
KB19711:43 pm, 08 Feb 12

dph said :

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

But Summernats is the root of all evil, didn’t you know?

#13
dph2:15 pm, 08 Feb 12

Mess said :

dph said :

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

and I suppose Union / AFL players are just sooooo much better.

Regardless, wouldn’t you say that this type of behaviour & attitude, is running rampant throughout the NRL?

#14
Thumper2:34 pm, 08 Feb 12

New Yeah said :

dph said :

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

Or does it just typify young males?

Young males with overinflated sense of ego, living in a bubble surrounded by yes men and more money than they can poke a stick at.

Exibit B your honor, Bernard Tomic

#15
6matt93:02 pm, 08 Feb 12

God damn footy heads.

#16
Deref3:25 pm, 08 Feb 12

Yawn.

Another sporting hero pinged for acting like an idiot. It must be a slow news day.

#17
SnapperJack3:39 pm, 08 Feb 12

Oh, God. The footy season’s started and yet another year of NRL (Neanderthals Running Loose).

How come this sort of thing never happens with cricketers, basketballers or swimmers?

#18
Thoroughly Smashed3:47 pm, 08 Feb 12

Eppo said :

Mess said :

dph said :

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

and I suppose Union / AFL players are just sooooo much better.

Well, yes. They are.

I can’t remember the last time a Brumbies player was disqualified for driving, had simulated sex with a dog, got drunk and pissed on other patrons at a bar, got caught drink driving, took a dump in a hotel etc etc etc…

If RL players are not as badly behaved, I guess they’re just much worse at not being caught?

Yeah, Matt Henjak never got in any trouble.

#19
flying doormat4:40 pm, 08 Feb 12

Couldn’t have come at a better time. The raiders want to resign Dugan and hope to do so with 3rd Party Sponsors. Hello Action Buses. I mean think of the benefits – heaps of green buses already in place, could put his melon on one and whilst he has no licence he could be the new ambassador for action and get on tv and promote the “Plusses of Busses”

#20
Tooks5:18 pm, 08 Feb 12

Eppo said :

Mess said :

dph said :

This type of stuff just typifies Rugby League.

and I suppose Union / AFL players are just sooooo much better.

Well, yes. They are.

I can’t remember the last time a Brumbies player was disqualified for driving, had simulated sex with a dog, got drunk and pissed on other patrons at a bar, got caught drink driving, took a dump in a hotel etc etc etc…

If RL players are not as badly behaved, I guess they’re just much worse at not being caught?

Yeah the AFL rape cover ups are so much better.

#21
Tooks5:31 pm, 08 Feb 12

SnapperJack said :

Oh, God. The footy season’s started and yet another year of NRL (Neanderthals Running Loose).

How come this sort of thing never happens with cricketers, basketballers or swimmers?

Nick D’Arcy, Michael Phelps, Ricky Ponting, Shane Warne, Mark Waugh, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone just off the top of my head.

There are dickheads in every sport. Many of these elite athletes are told from a very young age how great they are, many of them don’t finish school, haven’t ever worked a real job etc. It’s not new and it’s not surprising.

#22
dph5:47 pm, 08 Feb 12

Tooks said :

SnapperJack said :

Oh, God. The footy season’s started and yet another year of NRL (Neanderthals Running Loose).

How come this sort of thing never happens with cricketers, basketballers or swimmers?

Nick D’Arcy, Michael Phelps, Ricky Ponting, Shane Warne, Mark Waugh, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone just off the top of my head.

There are dickheads in every sport. Many of these elite athletes are told from a very young age how great they are, many of them don’t finish school, haven’t ever worked a real job etc. It’s not new and it’s not surprising.

The difference is, Rugby League is entrenched with this type of culture. The ‘boys will be boys’ attitude, along with sweeping everything under the carpet, has led to a specific & often very accurate stereotype of the sport.

#23
chewy147:51 pm, 08 Feb 12

dph said :

Tooks said :

SnapperJack said :

Oh, God. The footy season’s started and yet another year of NRL (Neanderthals Running Loose).

How come this sort of thing never happens with cricketers, basketballers or swimmers?

Nick D’Arcy, Michael Phelps, Ricky Ponting, Shane Warne, Mark Waugh, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone just off the top of my head.

There are dickheads in every sport. Many of these elite athletes are told from a very young age how great they are, many of them don’t finish school, haven’t ever worked a real job etc. It’s not new and it’s not surprising.

The difference is, Rugby League is entrenched with this type of culture. The ‘boys will be boys’ attitude, along with sweeping everything under the carpet, has led to a specific & often very accurate stereotype of the sport.

Got any evidence that the level of crime or bad behaviour by RL players is higher than other sports mentioned or the general population of young males?

Or do you base your opinions on who gets the most coverage on the back page of the Terrorgraph?

#24
OpenYourMind8:31 pm, 08 Feb 12

chewy14 said :

dph said :

Tooks said :

SnapperJack said :

Oh, God. The footy season’s started and yet another year of NRL (Neanderthals Running Loose).

How come this sort of thing never happens with cricketers, basketballers or swimmers?

Nick D’Arcy, Michael Phelps, Ricky Ponting, Shane Warne, Mark Waugh, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone just off the top of my head.

There are dickheads in every sport. Many of these elite athletes are told from a very young age how great they are, many of them don’t finish school, haven’t ever worked a real job etc. It’s not new and it’s not surprising.

The difference is, Rugby League is entrenched with this type of culture. The ‘boys will be boys’ attitude, along with sweeping everything under the carpet, has led to a specific & often very accurate stereotype of the sport.

Got any evidence that the level of crime or bad behaviour by RL players is higher than other sports mentioned or the general population of young males?

Or do you base your opinions on who gets the most coverage on the back page of the Terrorgraph?

I’m not sure about comprehensive evidence, but I think two words say it all: Monaghan & Dog.

Why do we put so much more money in male sport when such bad examples are so regularly displayed. Try naming a scandal with the Canberra Capitals???

#25
chewy149:29 pm, 08 Feb 12

OpenYourMind said :

chewy14 said :

dph said :

Tooks said :

SnapperJack said :

Oh, God. The footy season’s started and yet another year of NRL (Neanderthals Running Loose).

How come this sort of thing never happens with cricketers, basketballers or swimmers?

Nick D’Arcy, Michael Phelps, Ricky Ponting, Shane Warne, Mark Waugh, Kobe Bryant, Karl Malone just off the top of my head.

There are dickheads in every sport. Many of these elite athletes are told from a very young age how great they are, many of them don’t finish school, haven’t ever worked a real job etc. It’s not new and it’s not surprising.

The difference is, Rugby League is entrenched with this type of culture. The ‘boys will be boys’ attitude, along with sweeping everything under the carpet, has led to a specific & often very accurate stereotype of the sport.

Got any evidence that the level of crime or bad behaviour by RL players is higher than other sports mentioned or the general population of young males?

Or do you base your opinions on who gets the most coverage on the back page of the Terrorgraph?

I’m not sure about comprehensive evidence, but I think two words say it all: Monaghan & Dog.

Why do we put so much more money in male sport when such bad examples are so regularly displayed. Try naming a scandal with the Canberra Capitals???

How would you ever know? Most people wouldn’t know one player and it wouldn’t make the news anyway.
Also as mentioned previously money is a big factor which these minor sports don’t have to worry about.
I haven’t heard any scandals about my local Tiddlywinks team, but I can tell you we’re full of lowlifes.

#26
johnboy9:30 pm, 08 Feb 12

Teams with bigger ad spends are also less likely to get adverse media reporting.

Sad, horrible, fact of life.

Having said that the League guys in my experience tend to be more honest and open than the media operatives from the other codes. Could be it works against them on this level (works really well for them on lots of other levels).

#27
260410:29 pm, 08 Feb 12

dph said :

The difference is, Rugby League is entrenched with this type of culture. The ‘boys will be boys’ attitude, along with sweeping everything under the carpet, has led to a specific & often very accurate stereotype of the sport.

A “specific stereotype” huh? Pure genius.

Fact is, for every Josh Dugan or Todd Carney or Jarrod Hayne, there’s an Alan Tongue or Josh Miller or Nathan Hindmarsh – good sportsmen and good guys who are about as far as you can get from the “boys will be boys” mentality.

#28
dph10:53 pm, 08 Feb 12

chewy14 said :

Got any evidence that the level of crime or bad behaviour by RL players is higher than other sports mentioned or the general population of young males?

Or do you base your opinions on who gets the most coverage on the back page of the Terrorgraph?

I think you’ll find that a lot of the off field behaviour isn’t disclosed by the media. Fairfax & News.ltd, do as good a job protecting players, as they do covering the gutter stories.

Whether you love the game or you hate it, I think you have to be a bit naive to believe that Rugby League doesn’t have some significant cultural issues & a poor reputation with off field behaviour.

#29
Jpo11:57 pm, 08 Feb 12

2604 said :

dph said :

The difference is, Rugby League is entrenched with this type of culture. The ‘boys will be boys’ attitude, along with sweeping everything under the carpet, has led to a specific & often very accurate stereotype of the sport.

A “specific stereotype” huh? Pure genius.

Fact is, for every Josh Dugan or Todd Carney or Jarrod Hayne, there’s an Alan Tongue or Josh Miller or Nathan Hindmarsh – good sportsmen and good guys who are about as far as you can get from the “boys will be boys” mentality.

Agree with the general point you are making, but not sure why you are comparing Jarryd Hayne with Carney. Sure, Hayne was shot at in the Cross in 2008 and involved in a scuffle in the same location in 2011, but this is not quite in the smae league as Carney’s drinking driving charges and criminal convictions. Let’s hope Dugan’s driving charges aren’t an indication he is heading down the same path. At least All Bar Nun is now closed.

#30
chewy148:08 am, 09 Feb 12

dph said :

chewy14 said :

Got any evidence that the level of crime or bad behaviour by RL players is higher than other sports mentioned or the general population of young males?

Or do you base your opinions on who gets the most coverage on the back page of the Terrorgraph?

I think you’ll find that a lot of the off field behaviour isn’t disclosed by the media. Fairfax & News.ltd, do as good a job protecting players, as they do covering the gutter stories.

Whether you love the game or you hate it, I think you have to be a bit naive to believe that Rugby League doesn’t have some significant cultural issues & a poor reputation with off field behaviour.

I asked for evidence and that’s the best you can come up with? A media conspiracy?

I’m not saying that there aren’t complete Fwits playing professional football (all codes) but I’d actually be surprised if the level was much higher than in the young male population as a whole. For every Josh Dugan, there’s a Charnwood bogan hooning in a white Commodore.

The main difference that might make a difference is the time and money the footy players have but I think you’d be quite silly to base your overall opinion of footy players on media coverage.

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