Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows talk by Dr Melanie Joy

Talk about over the top hyperbole

best selling author
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #59,507 in Books
#19 in Books > Science & Math > Nature & Ecology > Animal Rights

award winning book x 3
Even her web site doesn’t mention which particular awards.

captivating presentation, extraordinary presentation
Its just a Powerpoint slide show.

Great to live in Canberra where this kind of stuff is just 15-20 minutes away for most of us.

johnboy said :

Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

That’s why we like our herbivores.

That’s an attractive theory, but there are plenty of exceptions. At times slow-running lowlanders apparently made up a significant portion of a New Guinea highlander’s diet (Tim Flannery, Throwim Way Leg, (I think)).

My own theory is that dogs (and to a lesser extent cats) are inclined to like us and be affectionate. They identify with us as individuals and us with them. Cows and pigs, generally speaking, ignore us and are therefore much easier to put in the ‘other’ category.

But I’m going along to find out.

rosscoact said :

I would have thought it was a judo-christian thing with the cloven hoofed animals.

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Judo-Christian. Sounds like a job for boxing Jesus.

http://www.art4god.com/html/?go=product&id=un

johnboy said :

Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

That’s why we like our herbivores.

Not to mention, if we farmed carnivorous animals for food we would also have to farm herbivorous animals to feed them. Cows are much less food energy intensive to farm than lions.

Producing a herbivore = Plant –> Herbivore
Producing a carnivore = Plant –> Herbivore —> Carnivore

rosscoact said :

I would have thought it was a judo-christian thing with the cloven hoofed animals.

Dog’s pretty good in winter though as any north Vietnamese will tell you

here it is

Leviticus 11:3

2″Speak to the sons of Israel, saying, ‘These are the creatures which you may eat from all the animals that are on the earth. 3Whatever divides a hoof, thus making split hoofs, and chews the cud, among the animals, that you may eat. 4’Nevertheless, you are not to eat of these, among those which chew the cud, or among those which divide the hoof: the camel, for though it chews cud, it does not divide the hoof, it is unclean to you.…

And that’s why we don’t eat dogs, or camels, or kangaroos, or spiders

poetix said :

Objective said :

>sustained by complex social and psychological mechanisms

To have uncovered such harmful impetuses to eating habits that have existed since caveman days. This broad must be brilliant.

Using a word like ‘broad’ show that you are feel vaguely threatened by the topic of discussion, or the speaker’s credentials, and feel the need to put the her down through clumsy slang. So boring.

I expect a lot of little jokes like Bacon’s ‘meaty’, though.

You’re projecting pretty hard there buddy. The only thing I’m possibly threatened by is the ability for people to lap up such nonsense.

In before you claim me calling you buddy implies I’m threatened. Bush psychologist psychoanalyzing me over the internet – top lel.

Zivko’s Butcher does a pretty mean spicy salami, if anyone’s interested. He’s at the Woden Markets every Sunday.

Pork Hunt said :

johnboy said :

Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

That’s why we like our herbivores.

I would’ve thought their sensitive ears precluded that genre of music…

Ha death metal is an acquired taste..

johnboy said :

Eating any top end predator leaves you open to accumulation of heavy metals.

That’s why we like our herbivores.

I would’ve thought their sensitive ears precluded that genre of music…

Kalfour said :

Davo aside, who among the omnivores on here can explain why we don’t eat dog?

Discounting cultural aspects (apparently we’ve been giving dogs human burials for more than 10 000 years) it probably comes down to economics. It’s a hell of a better return to use your dog to herd a bunch of docile bags of meat around while they convert plants, which you can’t eat, into delicious meals, that come in a convenient leather carry case, than to eat the dog.