The benefits of a Marist Education

Baggy said :

And, JB, In the interests of accuracy I think you’ll find the Marist formal was months ago, and the incident in fact occurred following the boys’ graduation ceremonies.

I’m confused. Been following these threads with interest (but inability to comment from work computer) and have only seen one reference to a formal – and not in this thread.

MrBigEars said :

rhino said :

I think this whole thread is a bit of a cheap dig at Marist. The quality of their education is irrelevant and attacking the school like this because a few students did something minor wrong one time is a bit unfair. I’m sure the schools in charnwood and lanyon have students who steal cars and mug people, but you don’t see a thread on here about the “quality of Lanyon High education”. It’s a bit passive aggressive and sarcastic and unnecessary.

I suspect that if the lanyon monkeys were stealing cars as an identifiable group of students, after their graduation, and then posting on the riot act about their status as special little snowflakes precluding them from the rules of society, people would be putting the slipper in on their standard of education as well.

That was a bit more succint than mine 😛

rhino said :

I think this whole thread is a bit of a cheap dig at Marist. The quality of their education is irrelevant and attacking the school like this because a few students did something minor wrong one time is a bit unfair. I’m sure the schools in charnwood and lanyon have students who steal cars and mug people, but you don’t see a thread on here about the “quality of Lanyon High education”. It’s a bit passive aggressive and sarcastic and unnecessary.

While I think you’re right that a number of people have taken the chance to have a dig at Marist generally for reasons other than these actions, there is still a distinction to be made between the walkback and the kinds of actions you mention above.

The difference being that, yes, within all sorts of cohorts, from Marist, Grammar, Lanyon, Charnwood and everywhere inbetween, there will be some bad eggs. And these bad eggs are going to do some rubbish stuff. That is not necessarily reflective on the school they went to, but on the person themselves, their parents, their upbringing, their own moral compasses, etc. And in these cases, where individuals or small groups go out and commit crimes/anti-social behaviour, then you judge the individual/small group.

But in the case of the walkback, even though it was unsanctioned by the school, it was undoubtedly and unashamedly a Marist event. The clear connection between ALL the people in the walk was that they were the just graduated 2013 class of Marist. And that is going to lend itself to criticism of the school and the 2013 cohort. As someone mentioned before, you are often judged by the company you keep and the decisions you make. It was rather disappointing to hear that while some involved were happy to decry that it was only a tiny minority of the cohort that caused trouble, there was the blatant admission that they would also protect that minority by refusing to cast them out of the walkback or hand them over to authorities to face the consequences of their actions. The silent majority have effectively protected the bad apples amongst them and allowed them to tarnish the entire cohort while hiding within the crowd. While you may think you have been protecting your fellow graduates all you have really done is sully your own reputations in the process.

rhino said :

I think this whole thread is a bit of a cheap dig at Marist. The quality of their education is irrelevant and attacking the school like this because a few students did something minor wrong one time is a bit unfair. I’m sure the schools in charnwood and lanyon have students who steal cars and mug people, but you don’t see a thread on here about the “quality of Lanyon High education”. It’s a bit passive aggressive and sarcastic and unnecessary.

I suspect that if the lanyon monkeys were stealing cars as an identifiable group of students, after their graduation, and then posting on the riot act about their status as special little snowflakes precluding them from the rules of society, people would be putting the slipper in on their standard of education as well.

I think this whole thread is a bit of a cheap dig at Marist. The quality of their education is irrelevant and attacking the school like this because a few students did something minor wrong one time is a bit unfair. I’m sure the schools in charnwood and lanyon have students who steal cars and mug people, but you don’t see a thread on here about the “quality of Lanyon High education”. It’s a bit passive aggressive and sarcastic and unnecessary.

DrKoresh said :

I’m not so much offended by what this group of kids did, it’s more the sneaking suspicious that if the graduating class of, say Dickson or Canberra college did the same thing the police would have been down busting heads and rounding people up.

Exactly.

I’m not so much offended by what this group of kids did, it’s more the sneaking suspicious that if the graduating class of, say Dickson or Canberra college did the same thing the police would have been down busting heads and rounding people up.

Graduation is not a formal.
The walk back is not a part of the school organised Graduation.
It is an event associated with school-organised Graduation in time only.
They were ex-students at the time the event occurred, the ex-students chose to involve themselves in a walk back without school involvement, and the school is not associated with the event, beyond having had (but no longer) at one point a responsibility for the individuals involved.
It was not a riot.
It was neither a behaviour representative of an entire class, nor of every class to have ever graduated, nor of everybody who ever took part in this or any walkback, nor the school, nor it’s administration.
Nor was it an event encouraged by, condoned, or organised by any member of the school staff either actively or tacitly.

Well done on the scandal-mongering independent of facts though, Jb.
Congratulations.
This is called “being petty and laying in the boot”.

And, JB, In the interests of accuracy I think you’ll find the Marist formal was months ago, and the incident in fact occurred following the boys’ graduation ceremonies.

I was reminded of this:

http://www.abc.net.au/stateline/act/content/2006/s2523187.htm

which gave us this particularly apposite quote:

“PRU GOWARD, NSW OPPOSITION MP: Look, it’s often said that Australia is a nation of functioning alcoholics. Alcohol fuelled violence, alcohol fuelled disorder is pretty common. So in that sense what happened is not unrepresentative of what happens everywhere.”

The Marist hijinks, and other such outbursts, are no more than you would expect in an overly boozy society which has a large dose of “yeah, what of it” righteousness.