15 June 2006

No recorded conviction for John Hargreaves

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I’m hearing on the radio that John Hargreaves has received a good behaviour bond and no recorded conviction for his post budget drink driving.

Oddly the magistrate has asked him to ensure that more drink driving education goes on in schools which isn’t going to be much help for most Ministers.

No word yet on the status of Mr. Hargreaves’ licence.

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Laurie Short2:45 pm 19 Jun 06

You have to wonder about Stanhope’s judgement. Reappointing a Minister that you it was wise not to meet with in the afternoon.

I see Hargreaves is a minister again….

Vic Bitterman1:32 am 17 Jun 06

Heavs *is* correct. Simple as that.

Gives a whole new meaning to sheepskin seat covers, Thumps…
Heavs, you’re probably right. But it worries me that I could get pissed tonight, crawl into my car, run the risk of hitting someone on the road, get RBT’d – and still get away with it.

I’m not saying whether it’s right or wrong. The magistrates have discretion in sentencing.
What I am saying is that he isnt’ treated differently because he’s a politician or sport star or high up public servant. he got exactly the same sort of treatment anyone with his driving record would have got.

What if they hit one of your relatives, Heavs – a sheep?

Anyone who has a spotless 35 year driving record is going to get a bond and no conviction when tehy come up for DUI unless they hit someone.
I know of at least three people who have had a 556a (finding of guilt without conviction) based on their prior good driving record.

Baaaaa Baaaaa

said on ABC news that he would be able to keep his license

tounge in cheek, knee jerkers. toungue in cheek.

Typical; one rule for us tossers, and another for the ACT Govt elite.

I doubt this has been a one off event for Hargreaves either!

In this case no conviction has been recorded.

But i can’t say I’m a fan of barring people with criminal records from public office, providing the electors are aware of the conviction when they choose to vote for them.

(don’t get me started about party bloc voting in the Senate)

Woody Mann-Caruso2:29 pm 15 Jun 06

Government programs are none of the judiciary’s business – it exists to interpret the law, and nothing else. A person’s ability to affect the delivery of programs shouldn’t be a relevant factor in the judiciary’s decision-making.

It’ll be interesting to read the court roster in the CT over the next few weeks and see how many other criminals driving around with twice the legal BAC get good behaviour bonds.

James-T-Kirk2:20 pm 15 Jun 06

I am not confident that twice the legal limit is not a “small error”… We dropped our standard from .08 to .05 and I understand that he was caught at .11 something.
You have to ask the question – Why are there dual standards. We have rules to prevent people with a coviction from working in government for a reason.

Don’t We?

So because Mr. Hargraves gets pissed, my rates go up to pay for this new program? Is it now going to be that every time a Minister breaks the law, a new program will have to introduced into schools to educate kids not to do it?

I think that the judiciary ensuring that a Minister provides the scope and budgetary allowance for education after said minister made a small error in judgement is something to be commended, rather than call odd. Particluary considering that he will most likely have to do a few media moments for the new program which will open him up to a few cheap shots…

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