Trimming down the bride…

cranky 20 July 2008 107

I need some advice.

A niece is counting down to her marriage ceremony (6 months).

Problem: Unfortunately, there is no other discription than that the lass is obese.

Probably inclined to help herself, but no real improvement from current efforts.

Parents, though concerned and applying pressure, have little effect.

Can any of the wonderous readership of this site point to a plan of action with the resources available in Canberra?

Sorry to offend if this seems outside the role of the RA, but where else can you call on a pretty vast source of knowledge.

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Granny Granny 12:36 am 30 Jan 09

Glad the day went off well, Cranky.

: )

cranky cranky 5:31 pm 29 Jan 09

The wedding went well. A few kilos may have been lost, but she looked sylph like in comparison with a few of the guests.

Apparently Jenny Craig is high on the agenda on return from the honeymoon. Her own decision, no pressure placed.

May I thank all for their input. This thread could be a great source for other weight challenged readers.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 3:08 pm 29 Jan 09

And did the bride end up dropping any weight?

I just reread this thread. Seeing WMC cop a bollocking made my afternoon!

ex-vectis ex-vectis 12:37 pm 29 Jan 09

How did the wedding go Crank?

anamika anamika 10:59 am 27 Jul 08

To the OP: I’m an ex-fattie – from age 16 to 25 I tried every diet and exercise programme known to man and failed miserably at all of them. The only thing that worked for me was Jenny Craig, and it worked because it required very little effort on my part. Meal planning is a pain in the arse and JC took all the pain out of it. Oh yeah, and I combined it with walking an hour a day and gym sessions three times a week. Lost 30 kilos and have kept it off for 12 years. (Kind of messes with the set point theory Diane)

The problem is, you haven’t mentioned whether your niece actually WANTS to lose weight. “Probably inclined to help herself, but no real improvement from current efforts” implies it’s not a burning desire for her, and that’s the root of the issue. Losing weight is like giving up smoking or breaking any other addiction. If you’re not committed, you won’t stick at it.

Also, I can tell you from personal experience that parental pressure does more harm than good. While I appreciate you want the best for her, you guys should probably all lay off the girl and let her figure it out for herself.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 10:44 am 23 Jul 08

it is when it comes from me.

Doctor Evil Doctor Evil 9:40 am 23 Jul 08

johnboy said :

Last warning on the personal abuse DE.

Must have missed the first one.

Can I have just one more? C’mon, I promise it will be worth your while 😉

johnboy johnboy 9:36 am 23 Jul 08

Not sure an out and out guess is ‘logic’ AD.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 9:29 am 23 Jul 08

no it isn’t crap – pretty serious research going into it. google set-point and body weight.

Okay what if for 1 out of those 4 years I was a decent weight? well thats good for you but it is determined by when your body is most comfortable and consistent.

VG – where is your research into whether it is more often than not, not genetic? I would say (as with most things) its is probably 50/50. That is without research, however just applying a little logic.

vg vg 9:08 am 23 Jul 08

ant said :

Those who pontificate about how easy it is to be thin are usually thin, eat rubbish and think that being fat is some kind of moral failing.

More often than not its not genetic, its the result of a sedentary lifestyle and or laziness.

Don’t eat crap and get out and do stuff is a good start to not being fat. Sick and tired of hearing every excuse in the world for it when people only have themselves to blame. Obesity is only genetic in an incredibly small % of people.

Want to lose weight, its very simple. Expend more ‘energy’ than you ingest. Change your diet or increase you activity (or both)

johnboy johnboy 8:58 am 23 Jul 08

Last warning on the personal abuse DE.

Doctor Evil Doctor Evil 7:17 am 23 Jul 08

Sorry Cranky, but your niece is going to have to get married looking like the Michelin Man.

Woody Pecker-Head and his panel of geniuses have it all covered.

johnboy johnboy 7:43 pm 22 Jul 08

Personally I’d say that in our 20s we fall into the lifestyles which will determine our weight.

There are so many fun ways to get exercise (bugger the gym and jogging), but only if you start doing it before it becomes humiliating.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 7:32 pm 22 Jul 08

OK I’ll put it out there – I usually hate fad diets BUT….I’m a big bloke and after retiring from actively playing sport a few years back I had to go on a diet as I got pretty big – about 120kg’s. I lost 20Kg in about 6 weeks using optifast dietshakes. 18 months down the track I’ve kept it off as I managed to change my lifestyle as well, so now I’m losing more weight gradually. The good bit is while on the stuff I still drank (beer, wine and scotch!) on Friday, Sat and Sunday nights and still had good size dinners (not huge but filled me up) every night, so you only need it twice a day. The key is exercise too, and lots of it.

You can”t live on dietshakes but my GP recommends them as long as you change your lifestyle while on them – it makes it easier to maintain when you go back to real food.

Thumper Thumper 5:54 pm 22 Jul 08

Maybe people could exercise more and eat less. Either way, it’s got to be good for you.

I really get of sick of seeing people munching on three big macs, fries and their obligitory diet coke.

As for the biggest loser, that is a waste of air time and gives false expectations to people.

As I have said before, small changes over a long period of time and discipline. If you make small changes over a long period they don’t really seem to affect you as much as a drastic change which you can only keep up for a month or two before you relapse.

Much better to train your body to accept something different than to shock it.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 5:04 pm 22 Jul 08

reality tv has proved more than you have

It’s proved that locking people away, working them like dogs all day every day, strictly controlling their diet and dangling $250K in front of them works for some of them in the short- to medium term.

But hey, I recant. I don’t understand why more scientists can’t see that this approach is a sound foundation for effective public policy, or why you’re not the Prime Minister. Thanks for opening my eyes with your TV-based common sense. Maybe you can get reiki on the national health agenda while you’re at it – it’s just another form of willpower, and that’s all it takes for all of us to be winners.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 4:56 pm 22 Jul 08

The serious thing is it would actually work, although it may contravene several laws.

Call it ‘acupuncture’ and people can claim it on their private health insurance.

Duke Duke 4:55 pm 22 Jul 08

Woody – For all your ‘expert’ sermonising and theorising reality tv has proved more than you have on this thread – and i’ll repeat it again because you missed it twice before – regular exercise + healthy diet = healthy body. Say it with me, regular exercise + healthy diet = healthy body 🙂

I’m looking forward to your next lecture on ‘some people really are big boned.’

It should be a cracker!!!

V8-Prius V8-Prius 4:51 pm 22 Jul 08

jakez said :

Absent Diane said :

actually one of the biggest factors in weight loss (when older) is how much you weighed in early your 20’s.. allegedly thats when your body ‘sets’ itself. meaning that if you were larger in your early 20’s it is going to be harder to shed the weight or keep it off. obviously if you’re lighter at said age group then group then you will have less problems.


Okay what if for 1 out of those 4 years I was a decent weight?

WMC: I’m not sure why your having such a brain explosion over this? Nobody is saying that you are wrong.

All they are saying is that it is about will power. All of those things that you talked about I agree with (as a fellow BSc, with majors in Human Nutrition and Human Anat and phys). However the way you present them gives the impression that it’s impossible to beat obesity.

Will power doesn’t equate to easy. It IS bloody hard work, not just to get the weight off but to keep it off. It IS bloody hard work to overcome the psychological aspects.

That is WHY you need will power, and will power doesn’t mean locating the treadmill.

If on the other hand you philosophically don’t believe in free will…well let’s not open that pandora’s box.

Agreed. Crap.

Mælinar - *spoiler alert* I've seen S04E13 Mælinar - *spoiler alert* I've seen S04E13 4:24 pm 22 Jul 08

Heh ‘underpinning’ from WMCs lecture above – I’ve got images of sticking pins into fatties until they are skinny.

The serious thing is it would actually work, although it may contravene several laws.

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