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ACT police seek help identifying speeding motorcyclists (240kph on the Parkway).

By farq 5 November 2008 90

ABC news has this interesting story on motorcycle escapades down the Tuggeranong Parkway.

2 riders, 240kph on the parkway…

Is that some sort of record?

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bigred 6:35 pm 13 Nov 08

Knowing the road through there quite well and the weather conditions, I just don’t believe they achieved the stated speeds. High 100’s: yes. 240 km/h plus: unlikely.

Madman 6:16 pm 13 Nov 08

I didn’t mean it would stop it completely or minimise resources dramatically.

I was talking about this as an isolated event.

SheepGroper 1:37 pm 12 Nov 08

oppressed_taxpayer said :

Yes, the near or actual loss of a life often elicits a chuckle from self-righteous fu#kwits such as yourself, as long as the person in question really “deserves” it. I wonder whether or not you’d gain a bit more perspective if someone close to you lost their life due to their active involvement in an all-too-human moment of stupidity?

Nope. Been there, done that, went to the funeral, and I still see amusement in topics you’d rather I didn’t.

Holden Caulfield 11:00 am 12 Nov 08

Ouch! 😮

peterh 9:59 am 12 Nov 08

oppressed_taxpayer said :

tylersmayhem said :

Yes, the near or actual loss of a life often elicits a chuckle from self-righteous fu#kwits such as yourself, as long as the person in question really “deserves” it. I wonder whether or not you’d gain a bit more perspective if someone close to you lost their life due to their active involvement in an all-too-human moment of stupidity?

or you were driving on the hay plain and saw a bike get “vortexed” – sucked straight under a semi – bits of bike everywhere on the road. Biker wasn’t dead, but pretty close, and it seemed an eternity before we could get help for him. (back in the day of brick mobile phones, no coverage) not pretty at all.

Granny 9:42 am 12 Nov 08

Yes, lucky you have been trained!

LOL

Thumper 9:39 am 12 Nov 08

Riding an LS650 Savage, so sitting well back, and also trying to duck under the little bugger at the saame time 😉

Granny 9:39 am 12 Nov 08

Well this all adds a new dimension to biological warfare ….

*chuckle*

Skidbladnir 9:26 am 12 Nov 08

The fact you almost fell off a bike is probably due to all kinds of things, but at a guess I’d suggest either your reactions, or leverage forces and your centres of balance. :\

The actual damage is related to force being exerted, size of the area impacted, and the resistance involved at impact.
(a bird with a smaller beak\point of impact expends its force on a smaller area, so increases the pressure exerted on that point)

I was in the back of a ute a down a highway driving at speed a great many moons ago, when I got hit in the forehead by some kind of bug.
It exploded, I bled some, and had to pick insect legs out of my face.

farq 9:19 am 12 Nov 08

what a african or european swallow?

Thumper 8:28 am 12 Nov 08

This is just from a 50g bird, on a perfectly flat road. Heavier birds make it much, much worse.

I remember riding down to Eastern Creek many years ago and a mate of mine got hit of the knee by a locust. He had a bruise as if he’d been hit by a Brett Lee delivery whilst wearing no pads and was limping around for days.

I once head butted a starling but only at about 60 klicks. Almost knocked me off the bike 😉

farnarkler 6:37 am 12 Nov 08

Skidbladnir it happened here not long ago. A motorbike rider was hit by a pheasant and died as a result of the accident.

oppressed_taxpayer 3:40 am 12 Nov 08

tylersmayhem said :

LOL. I find that actually very very funny! If it was a legit accident I would think it was horrible and tragic. Some tosser riding like a w**ker and endagering the life of pretty much everyone else on the road = very amusing.

Now…the tirade of abuse…

Yes, the near or actual loss of a life often elicits a chuckle from self-righteous fu#kwits such as yourself, as long as the person in question really “deserves” it. I wonder whether or not you’d gain a bit more perspective if someone close to you lost their life due to their active involvement in an all-too-human moment of stupidity?

tylersmayhem 4:52 pm 07 Nov 08

How much money and resources do you think the police put in to finding the identified riders, send them to court – judge prosecutor fees staff police searches warrants, impound the vehicle – transport storage staff, speed camera – purchasing maintenance data fees staff. That’s just for one offense think about the rest to come.
If they were to put that money into a raceway in canberra it would be saving your taxes if anything and shouldn’t cost anymore then $500-750k with a small yearly upkeep.

If you honestly believe that putting in a raceway will mean there will be no more speeding and no need for the police to have the same resourcing, you disappoint me greatly Madman. I always had you pinned as one of the more intelligent folk on here.

Madman 3:05 pm 07 Nov 08

tylersmayhem said :

It’s not a very sensible thing to condome or joke about.

Nor is riding bikes in excess of 250Km/h!

As for your race way, who’s gonna pay for it?

How much money and resources do you think the police put in to finding the identified riders, send them to court – judge prosecutor fees staff police searches warrants, impound the vehicle – transport storage staff, speed camera – purchasing maintenance data fees staff. That’s just for one offense think about the rest to come.
If they were to put that money into a raceway in canberra it would be saving your taxes if anything and shouldn’t cost anymore then $500-750k with a small yearly upkeep.
Yes there is one in wakefield but not everyone will want to ride that distance as it’s not local. There is also grocery shops that way – but people don’t travel that far to do there shopping – cause it’s done locally.

Plus never did I condome speeding at that speed i said you shouldn’t condome opening car doors on riders, speeding or not.

Plus BD84 – you’re saying alot of stuff is fact but there is nothing to support it.
You reckon by proportions. If you want to go by proportions… There are 191 763 registered passanger vehicles in the ACT and 8 022 motorcycles registered in the ACT.
If all the bikes and all the vehicles where on the road at the same time there would be 24 cars to 1 bike.
Statsitically it will show that there will be more assholes in the 24 cars then the 1 bike… say half of the motorcyclists where assholes that would mean 1 asshole to 48 cars… I’m sure there would be more then 1 asshole in those 48 drivers…

Do yourselves a favour and do your own statistical analysis on the way home. Count how many cars you see and how many motorcycles you see. Also count how many cars did the wrong thing and how many bikes. And don’t be prejudice, car does a little thing then count it. Remember also that bikes are alot more moneuverable then cars also!

tylersmayhem 10:33 am 07 Nov 08

It’s not a very sensible thing to condome or joke about.

Nor is riding bikes in excess of 250Km/h!

As for your race way, who’s gonna pay for it?

Spectra 7:56 am 07 Nov 08

it’s still typical of the motorcyclist mindset…
Well, given that you claim you’ve seen a higher proportion of motorcyclists than cars doing the wrong thing, that clearly makes it “typical”.
Sorry, not exactly a strong argument you’re pushing there. I’ll guarantee you that neither I nor any of my friends think we’re invincible – if we did we wouldn’t spend so much time getting into various bits of protective gear every time we get on a bike, nor would we spend money on advanced riding courses to try to increase our odds of staying alive.
Again, you’re right that there are dickheads on bikes, you may even be right that they represent a higher proportion of the total than those in cars, but I take serious issue with your claim that it’s in some way “typical” or an “overriding mentality” amongst those who ride.

The fellow riding his motorcycle down the shoulder of the road this morning…
The plural of “anecdote” is not “evidence”. I can give you any number of stories about cars doing the wrong thing, either deliberately or through inattention. Doesn’t make the majority of car drivers dickheads.

It illustrates the point for better driver and even more so rider training was well as periodic road rules refreshers.
We currently have what I consider an excellent rider training system in this town (though I’m guessing you wouldn’t actually know that). Since it, and similar courses around the country have been introduced, rider deaths have dropped by something in the region of 90% (don’t have the actual statistics to hand right now, but it was certainly in that ballpark) as a proportion of riders on the road. There’s also a lot of riders (myself included) who spend their own money doing extra courses that are offered.

But I guess I just have to accept that once some people have decided that all riders are arrogant, irresponsible dickheads, minor details like facts aren’t going to sway them.

bd84 10:05 pm 06 Nov 08
Spectra 9:01 pm 06 Nov 08

Of course if you dont offer a speedway or a track then it’s going to happen on the road

My friends and I who ride sportsbikes which are capable of these speeds are quite happy to make the trip up to Wakefield Park or even Eastern Creek. It’s really not that far – if you’re desperate enough to behave this recklessly, surely a two hour return trip is nothing. Hell, I used to have to drive that far just to get to some places in the same city when I lived in Melbourne. Yes, it would be very nice if there was somewhere closer, but at the end of the day these assholes made the choice to behave like this – anything that came of it would have been their fault and nobody else’s – not yours, not mine and not the government’s.

Madman 7:43 pm 06 Nov 08

Tooks said :

CHW said :

Oh, eeeeeeuuuuwwwwwww – gooooood look!

Next time someone sees him coming up from behind can we do the world a favour and open a car door as he goes past??

The most surprising thing about this thread is that people took this ^ comment seriously.

It’s really not something to joke about… I didn’t find it funny and i’m 100% sure the motorcycle community didn’t laugh either. It’s not a very sensible thing to condome or joke about.

Maybe if these riders had somewhere in the ACT to be riding at that speed they wouldn’t have to do it on the parkway… The Gumberment has that to answer themselves. Of course if you dont offer a speedway or a track then it’s going to happen on the road – and it all about revenue raising, they’d rather make money on the speeding fines than finding a safe place for the riders to do it.

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