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ACTION fail again – Australia Day 2014

By wildturkeycanoe 24 January 2014 49

So, ACTION has once again failed to deliver anything useful.

We were thinking about going to the big day down at Regatta Point on Sunday, for the shows, displays and fireworks. Instead of driving and having to do the big long walk from Civic to the lake, I found that Action are doing post-show shuttle services to get you home.

Well, guess what, they don’t take you home. The services that start from 9:30PM only take you to one of the main bus interchanges where you will find yourself stranded, because the last bus of the day left around 7:30. After calling Action to clarify if there was any other way to get home, they said no. Okay, parking at the Belconnen mall and driving home from there after the day might be an option, but then you have to pay for the parking as well, $30 if you were to spend all afternoon at the lake plus the bus fare for a family of five = over $60 in total. At this suggestion Action recommended parking somewhere else, like near lake Ginninderra. Sure! I’d love to take my family for a pleasant stroll on Sunday night at 10:30PM, along Emu Bank with all the drunken yobbos and other loons who have been inebriated with Aussie pride. Chan street car park is closed on weekends and who’d want to walk around any of those back streets at that time of night anyway?

The Canberra Center only charges $2 for the entire day on Sundays, so it looks like we will have to drive to the show and not have a drink to celebrate. Party poopers.

Public transport in this town is still pathetic and they wonder why people complain and don’t use it.

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Holditz 9:16 pm 07 Feb 14

Looks like ACTION has listened to the OP’s gripe- free bus travel for Saturday’s Multicultural Festival.

http://www.action.act.gov.au/news/news_articles/action-services-are-free-on-saturday-8-february-for-the-national-multicultural-festival

Holditz 1:38 pm 29 Jan 14

Canberra Day last year ACTION did the same thing, free buses in the evening after the fireworks. Riot Act barely raised an eyebrow. I rode one of those buses to Woden, and then caught a taxi home to Weston Creek.

http://the-riotact.com/free-buses-for-canberra-day/96275

Let’s look at the logistics. You have buses running continuously north and south from Regatta Point/Albert Hall, buses pushing off when the bus is mostly full (picking up more riders at the next stop.) That’s about two to three buses per five minutes, carrying hundreds of people. Let’s say the first twenty minutes after the fireworks have finished are the busiest, as most people are wanting to go home. That’s about 8 to 10 buses running one way, or 16 to 20 buses both ways. For the rest of the hour one to two buses every five minutes, trickling to just one bus per five minutes for the last fifteen minutes. That’s another 8 (or 16) buses. So, with no repeat trips, about 36 drivers or so were paid double time. ACTION doesn’t get any compensation because the trips were free.

Now, OP complains that there wasn’t any buses to feed travellers to suburbs. One assumes the OP means that each weekend route should have a bus. Does this bus leave when the first travellers hit the interchange? Or an hour later? Or should there be two or more buses per route? Should the buses be free? Of course the answer would be yes- we all like getting free stuff. The reality is that the costs are too great- scheduling a driver or two for *each* weekend route at double time pay, without any recompense, payment for security at bus interchanges to protect travellers. Instead of complaining that families aren’t getting a free ride all the way home, the OP would be complaining that the ACT Government is being too extravagant with public funds by providing a subsidised taxi service.

gungsuperstar 12:02 pm 29 Jan 14

harvyk1 said :

Furthermore your argument completely precludes those people who do not drive / own a car. Yes such people do exist in Canberra.

And I was one of them for the first couple of years that I lived in Canberra!

But having made a CHOICE not to own a car, I certainly didn’t expect government to cater for my own choices (I’m not a parent who expects the tax payer to fund my kids education. But thats a tangent for another day…).

Would you be able to get a bus to the suburbs at 11pm on any Sunday night? Why should Australia Day be any different?

For people that can’t afford a car and didn’t really make that choice… I would strongly argue that there are a thousand other things that the government could do for you (and does do for you) that are a better use of public funds than bus drivers at double time and a half to carry 5 people to a suburb.

I’m all for providing opportunities and interesting things to do for all Canberrans, but free public transport to all suburbs at 11pm on a public holiday is just so far down the list of priorities it’s not even worth thinking about.

harvyk1 8:56 am 29 Jan 14

gungsuperstar said :

Australia’s obsession with alcohol rears its stupid, drunk head again.

The aim of the Australia Day event was not to provide a place for bogans to get drunk in public. On the contrary, it’s meant to be a family friendly environment.

Similarly, ACTION is not providing a bus service so you can get drunk. ACTION provides these services to limit traffic and parking hassles at major events. So the Park & Ride system should be adequate for the vast majority of people.

If they’re not, you have your Australia Day priorities wrong.

Considering that a single drink* has the ability to push someone over the limit, providing an actual usable service to give people an alternative to running the gauntlet seems like a good thing.

That’s not to say the some people don’t over indulge, but even then, having a safe reliable public transport system to get such people home is again not bad thing.

Furthermore your argument completely precludes those people who do not drive / own a car. Yes such people do exist in Canberra.

* – E.g a woman drinking from a standard sized wine glass, which can hold 2 standard drinks will be put over the limit of .05 on their first drink. A standard size full strength bottle of beer is 1.5 standard drinks. It’s really easy to go over.

Maya123 12:11 am 29 Jan 14

thatsnotme said :

use the bus again until the next special event in town in 12 months time

Why so infrequent use of the bus?

gungsuperstar 10:35 pm 28 Jan 14

harvyk1 said :

Wait a second, if the OP is saying what I think they are saying then I think they have a very valid complaint. Running a special service from an event to the nearest interchange is certainly a good thing, but it’s very short sighted of Action if they don’t then follow that up with a method to get from that interchange to the nearest bus stop to a persons house.

I for one (like the majority of Canberra) don’t live within a 5 minute walk of an interchange, as such it severely limits a services usefulness. So Action, perhaps next time, before offering a special service to get to and from events, perhaps it would be worth while working out how people can get to and from their homes to the terminus of the special service.

Furthermore simply saying “well just drive to the nearby interchange” kinda defeats the “drink OR drive” message that we are consistently being reminded of.

Australia’s obsession with alcohol rears its stupid, drunk head again.

The aim of the Australia Day event was not to provide a place for bogans to get drunk in public. On the contrary, it’s meant to be a family friendly environment.

Similarly, ACTION is not providing a bus service so you can get drunk. ACTION provides these services to limit traffic and parking hassles at major events. So the Park & Ride system should be adequate for the vast majority of people.

If they’re not, you have your Australia Day priorities wrong.

Stormfront Org 1:20 pm 28 Jan 14

wildturkeycanoe, excuse me for my question, what is your weight? I will understand your rant if you are morbidly obese (like majority of this town, poor bastards), and having to walk a short distance to you is like running 40 kms to me- you will be huffing and puffing.

harvyk1 12:37 pm 28 Jan 14

Wait a second, if the OP is saying what I think they are saying then I think they have a very valid complaint. Running a special service from an event to the nearest interchange is certainly a good thing, but it’s very short sighted of Action if they don’t then follow that up with a method to get from that interchange to the nearest bus stop to a persons house.

I for one (like the majority of Canberra) don’t live within a 5 minute walk of an interchange, as such it severely limits a services usefulness. So Action, perhaps next time, before offering a special service to get to and from events, perhaps it would be worth while working out how people can get to and from their homes to the terminus of the special service.

Furthermore simply saying “well just drive to the nearby interchange” kinda defeats the “drink OR drive” message that we are consistently being reminded of.

thatsnotme 12:15 pm 28 Jan 14

Maya123 said :

roshen said :

I think wildturkeycanoe is referring to the new fees that were introduced early this year:

http://www.transport.act.gov.au/catch_a_bus/myway/buy_your_myway_card

The $2.13 I mentioned was the new off-peak bus fare, when using MyCard. I catch enough buses to have noticed most passengers use a MyCard these days. Very few pay the bus fare that wildturkeycanoe quotes, and wildturkeycanoe doesn’t have to pay this either if they buy a MyCard. When I bought the card I didn’t have to pay the $5 upfront fee for it, but the $20 worth of bus trips that were preloaded onto it were at the credit card rate, not the cheaper direct deposit rate that I get these days. And which wildturkeycanoe can get too if they use the internet. And they must have internet access because they post here. The $5 upfront fee that apparently must be paid these days would be recovered after three $2.13 off-peak or weekend bus trips and then the future bus trips would be cheaper than paying $4.40.
$4.40 bus trips are a personal choice by wildturkeycanoe. They don’t have to pay this, and most people don’t.

In this instance though, MyWay isn’t really a viable alternative, and it’s certainly not the cheapest one if you only use ACTION once in a blue moon.

If you are a family of four, and everyone is old enough to pay a fare, then you would need to buy four separate MyWay cards at $5 each. Remember, you can’t tag more than one person on with a single card, everyone needs their own. Then you would need to put enough credit on them for the trips. Even if you only put $5 on each one, getting there with MyWay has cost you $40. Sure, you’ve got the cards to use again in the future, but if you’re not planning to use the bus again until the next special event in town in 12 months time, then it’s not really a cheaper alternative.

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