Ainslie Neglect Mother Bailed by the Supreme Court

Whatsup wrote “OK, so here is a challenge.

There are people saying what shouldn’t be done for this woman. What can / should be done ? I put it out there for the RA brains trust to consider and respond in two ways.

1) What is needed ?
2) Who should pay for it ?”

OK as we are in an Olympic year and it is being held in China I wil answer your question in Chinese.

1) A bullet behind the right ear
2) The family

I heard a rumour that the person responsible for Clea Rose was boasting to his mates about stealing 3 cars last week. If true rehab, counseling and sympathy have done F-all to change his behaviour

Just a rumour……..

One can only hope that they will offer something resembling “rehab” in the new jail. I’ve had clients convey to me that the resources at Belconnen Remand Centre are sub par. This, I should point out is not a reflection on the Drug & Alcohol staff, but rather sparse funding from the ACT govt.

wait a minute, if she is sent into the new gaol, won’t the taxpayer be paying for her anyway?

maybe they should be offering rehab in the gaol.

(with the new sniffer dogs, perhaps it will be enforced rehab….)

Sepi:

Yes your correct it is going to cost more at the moment to look after these kids, but what about the long term costs. Do we leave them with their drugged f*** mother, in which case they will most likely follow suit or do we give them a chance to work for a living????

I spose you can always flip a coin, but as far as I’m concerned I’d rather the kids get taken off her and provided with a decent growing up period rather than a mother who’s wondering when her next hit is.

Hmmm….Justice Refshauge; Not a good start. Me thinks all his appeals on the grounds of manifest leniency look a little silly (granted there weren’t many). I wonder if he’ll be presiding over Adam Stewart’s (rapist) appeal.

DMD: I think you’ve answered the first question of my “stupid” challenge. I know there are people out there who know more about this than I, so that was why I posed the questions…I might be tired and old but there isn’t much I can do about that.

Oh, and I haven’t taken offence so you are still on my Christmas card list 😉

I disagree with the premise that she would not be a good cleaner.

Whacked up the gills she could go for hours and hours…

My house is fine, thanks…well, for a house that’s about to be knocked down anyway. There is no way in the world I’m going to stop that floor from looking like it’s about to collapse.

Your challenge is also completely stupid, not offense to you personally. It’s a tactic often employed by the right here and it’s kind of tired and old. ‘You middle-class kids should get out and see the REAL WORLD that I see at Garema place on the way to the office. I was even burgled once! Blah blah blah’ . You live in Canberra HB, most people here are exposed to the same addicts and people with problems as you. Some just develop different opinions on how society should help these people.

Based on her previous record, I think there’s a chance this job will fall through. If it works out, however, then great – she might learn a thing or two. I don’t think prison is the answer either. She needs care, not just locking away.

Sepi wrote: “HB – you do realise that employing others to care for her kids is going to cost way more than paying her child benefits?”

Well der Sepi. I would rather my taxes go to an appropriate organisation to give the children a chance. This druggy moll would have never spent her benefits on the children anyway. Would have all been spent at the Ainslie shops on 440ml Woodstock Bourbon and Colas and Horizon 50’s dark red.

So, is it all about economic cost for you Sepi, not quality outcomes? Because as far as I can see you would be happy to continue giving tax money to this woman to allegedly spend on her children. FFS.

Apologies Whatsup – I misread your comment 🙂

Where they name their children ‘Violence’ and ‘Sex Fruit’!!!

Just don’t let the kids go back there. And long term fostering – they would be split up, probably two kids each. Just like the last time and the time before that.

There is no such thing as forced detox in the ACT (or australia?).
Except gaol.

Final orders till the kids are 18 and she go back to New Zealand. In the end we all pay for it.

Yep, I read that too. And now she has been bailed again, back out in the community to continue her old ways. Not sure what your point is here.

But the real question is what should happen to her kids.

And I don’t know the answer.

I guess part of it is how long it will be before she has any chance of getting her life together – which is look less and less likely. So long term fostering? But who will take on 4 kids.

@Whatsup – just to clarify, she was bailed before on the condition that she stay off drugs. She couldn’t do it. Hence, she went into the remand centre.

OK, so here is a challenge.

There are people saying what shouldn’t be done for this woman. What can / should be done ? I put it out there for the RA brains trust to consider and respond in two ways.

1) What is needed ?
2) Who should pay for it ?

@scootergal How many chances did Carney get? there must be some magic number here 🙂

Without breaching confidentiality, I have to say I know alot aobut this case and situation. She has had support. Chances. Many many times.

Not good enough as far as I am concerned. HOw many times do we say “We’ll let you off this time, just don’t do it again”?

Let me say it slowly for you: People helping people is a GOOD thing.

Can anyone find her house on Google StreetView?

HB – you do realise that employing others to care for her kids is going to cost way more than paying her child benefits?

So what exactly would you suggest should happen to this woman ?

I think a detox program and some industrial strength mental help would be a good start, and yes I would be happy for my taxes to go towards this.

Yes Whatsup, your taxes should be used to help people. Equally people should not shit on you, me and every other tax payer by being provided a home at tax payer expense, child benefits at tax payer expense and then doing what this woman did. She needs help alright but no more at the tax payer expense.

I am one who think this woman needs some help. I also think she has proven that being out in the community isn’t working for her as she still has access to the drugs that are contributing to her problems.

I am already contributing to her getting help as I pay taxes to the government and expect my cash to be used to provide adequate resources and support people is such a situation as this one. When will the government put some more cash into addressing the Drug and Mental Health problems of our society ?

Sepi – Ahhh, I was wondering how long it would take……please. I must disagree with you. Gender makes not one iota of difference to me nor I suspect anyone else. On what do you base this observation?

People support all sorts of crazy things – just human nature I suppose. Either that or an excellent example of Darwin’s theory of evolution.

PLease let us know if you are staisfied with your house cleaning.

She can’t be all bad if she has all these supporters.

Everybody can clean up – many just choose not to. If she was a single father living in a mess people would probably feel sorry for her.

Is she being hired to clean up or clean out?

Has Richard been tainted by Terrence? Or the bint?

Employment as a house cleaner – hahahahahahahahaha!