Amaroo – hotbed of criminality?

johnboy 27 March 2007 41

RiotACT advertiser and Liberal Candidate for the seat of Fraser, Troy Williams, has put out a media release announcing that he feels the pain of Amaroo residents.

It would appear they have been besieged by hoons and vandals.

“There seems to be a growing instance of cars racing along main streets and doing burn-outs in parks. It’s disturbing behavior that is unsafe for those in the car and anybody else near by.

“Sadly, vandalism is also on the increase. Garbage bins in local parks are being set on fire.

“These actions are raising concerns about community safety in Amaroo”

Is it really this bad? And would a bowling alley make much difference?

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41 Responses to Amaroo – hotbed of criminality?
nyssa76 nyssa76 10:44 pm 29 Mar 07

Forgot the “if”.

nyssa76 nyssa76 10:43 pm 29 Mar 07

If kids stay at home and do homework…they are NOT BORED

Yeah right. Not all kids “volunteer” to do homework.

Kids do want everything on their plate. There are those that have no initiative or imagination and are “bored”. Which is bullshit.

They think Canberra is boring, they should spend some time in Broken Hill.

vg vg 10:04 pm 29 Mar 07

“So you’re all being a bit too harsh”

Your words, ergo that IS what you’re saying.

Did I say EVERY kid was bored?

Lighting bins and hooning in cars is a good way of telling if someone is an absolute dickhead, not that they are bored.

We were all kids once, you don’t have a mortgage on youth

J Dawg J Dawg 9:41 pm 29 Mar 07

That’s not what I am saying. I was implying that to say that every kid is bored is a bit harsh to the 99% of kids who occupy their time lawfully. As ridiculous as my comparisons are, your analysis of my comments is missing the point.

Not only are the kids bored, but don’t like being told.

What kids don’t like being told is whether they are bored or not. Let them make up their own minds.
Here is a quick way to tell if a kid thinks they are bored: if they light bins on fire and hoon in cars (particularly in Amaroo), they ARE BORED
If kids stay at home and do homework/watch TV/go bowling, they are NOR BORED.

vg vg 9:28 pm 29 Mar 07

So telling you that using being bored is a bullshit excuse is being harsh?

Your comparisons are ridiculous. NO-one says all kids are doing it. Just the kids that do can’t use being bored as an excuse, as its clear there are a plethora of services and facilities available in comparison to times past.

Not only are the kids bored, but don’t like being told. At least 1 thing hasn’t changed I guess

J Dawg J Dawg 6:08 pm 29 Mar 07

Look at it like this:

How many kids live in Amaroo? From the comments above, some mentioning the fact that young families moved in there when it was built, probably quite a few. Now I’m sure that there are very few instances of burning bins. Would EVERY kid go out and burn bins for fun? No, only a handful would. Chances are it is the same people doing it.

Same thing with hooning, sure it might happen a lot, but once again, it is probably the same people doing it. Not every young person with a car hoons around in Amaroo.

So you’re all being a bit too harsh. It’s like me saying “oh look another murder. I wish these bloody adults would stop sticking knives into each other outside cube.” But I don’t. So you shouldn’t either.

Danman Danman 12:45 pm 29 Mar 07

oh and fishing and yabbying at ginnenderra creek under barton hwy was always good fun when I was a youngen…

Danman Danman 12:44 pm 29 Mar 07

Oh and my 1st car was purchased and maintained by me so you can bet that sure as shit I would not be doing burnouts in it.

When you have a high powered car purchased for you by your darling parents do you think you will give a fried duck about mechanical strain from hooning and doing burnouts.

not when daddy or mummies cheque book will make the problems go away.

Of course not all kids are like this – but theer are a few – like our friends on youtube a few weeks ago…

Adnmittedly I used to do the same – but I was on a BMX or maountain bike

RM RM 10:56 am 29 Mar 07

It’s just the way society is today – expecting someone else to do everything for them. I’m getting sick of people whinging about what they don’t have, instead of being grateful for what they do.
Besides, burnouts, hooning etc. require a car. So why don’t they drive somewhere else, to alleviate this boredom? Because the boredom excuse is crap.

Thumper Thumper 7:21 am 29 Mar 07

and fishing in the lake or down the river…

Danman Danman 7:17 am 29 Mar 07

I used to ride my bike from giralang to bruce then to macquarie and hawker then home – picking up friends on the way to ride with me.

Have a chat at each place and kick a footy or play some backyard cricket – heaps to do – just the youngens of today think that we should be suggesting/inventing things for them to do.

Giralang in the 80’s to mid 90’s had nothing for me to do – so I went out and found things to do – for the most part it involved me and my bike and a few friends and riding…

I didnt cry poor me and break into cars/graffiti/arson/shoplift etc etc.

Kids today want it all served on a plate….. sorry aint gunna happen.

caf caf 11:13 pm 28 Mar 07

Near as I can tell, a certain proportion of youth has *always* indulged in a bit of recreational criminal damage. Blowing up mailboxes was the fashion when I was young.

nyssa76 nyssa76 10:29 pm 28 Mar 07

True vg, but they’ll whinge that there’s nothing to do. Worst still you’ll get some that will whinge that they weren’t “consulted” on “appropriate” things to suit their needs.

vg vg 10:17 pm 28 Mar 07

Society functioned just fine when we had less. It just required a bit of self-motivation. Look at the facilities already provided, skate park being just 1

johnboy johnboy 10:16 pm 28 Mar 07

burnouts are fun

burning things is fun,

chucking TV’s out the hotel window is fun

putting flaming poobags on people’s doorsteps and running away is fun.

if not for fear of retribution they’re’d be nothing left standing.

Oddly enough though it’s the fear of retribution that makes it fun, I pity the modern youth living without that fear.

seepi seepi 10:15 pm 28 Mar 07

Ok, so people should not commit crime – noone’s arguing that. But if providing a few facilities helps to prevent that then why not do it.

Societies function better when people have access to fa

vg vg 10:08 pm 28 Mar 07

Problem my big bum! But then again it is hard to compare the youth of today with that of yesteryear. In past times the youth would do a heap with bugger all, nowadays they do bugger all with a heap of things to do.

No-one ever said anything about chopping down trees and building garden sheds. When we were a little bored we generally didn’t resort to arson or criminal damage.

I used to live in Amaroo, and now I live in the next suburb. What’s so boring out there? On and off road bike tracks, ovals, shops, McDonalds, a properly made skate park (we had to make our own), access to public transport to catch a bus into town (or a 20-30 min ride on your bike).

The youth of today seem, to a certain degree, to lack initiative and inventiveness. If you can honestly say that it’s boring trying explaining your boredom to a kid that grows up on a farm but never seems to be bored.

Understand and control what problem? Get off your lazy asses and do something for yourself. You don’t have to be spoon fed your own fun. Be a little bit more inventive than committing crimes

J Dawg J Dawg 9:57 pm 28 Mar 07

That is not an excuse.

That’s like saying I’m bored so i’ll burn someone’s fence down or firebomb their car.

I’m pretty sure thats exactly what schmerica is saying. Or something similar to that. This stuff is always going to happen, maybe not so extreme, but young people will always be bored with normal things.

If it’s a saturday night with mates, and the only thing within walking distance (say, a bowling alley) you have done 100 times so you are bored of that. Not being able to get anywhere else, you are stuck in one spot. Not a lot you can do except go outside and make your own fun. It just so happens that making your own fun usually involves doing stuff like lighting bins on fires, simply because there is very little to do.

And if one of you says “oh thats bullshit, back in my day we would make our own fun, we would chop down a tree and build a new garden shed”, remember this is no longer your day. Stop comparing yourselves to the youth today, the sooner people start accepting this the sooner people will be able to understand and control this problem.

vg vg 6:52 pm 28 Mar 07

“Everyone knows the Gungahlin Police Station closes down the same time as the Belconnen Mall.”

Bullshit it does

vg vg 6:51 pm 28 Mar 07

This talk of boredom is complete and utter bullshit. I grew up here and there was considerably less to do as a child/teenager/young adult. Having said that I managed to spend my time not burning bins and performing bogan-like burnouts in Mum and Dad’s 180B.

Until I left home at 18 I could amuse myself all day with a sunny day, a pushbike and a football. I’m sick of hearing ‘the kids are bored’. Try having 2 TV stations, no PS1, 2 or 3, less public facilities and 1 car families. You learnt to get off your ass and amuse yourself practically.

Boredom my ass, abject laziness I’d suggest

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