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Anyone want to do the admin for the Australian Christian Lobby?

By johnboy 21 January 2014 50

The Australian Christian Lobby is looking for Canberra staff:

ACL is seeking a highly motivated person to fill the full-time role of Administration Assistant/Receptionist in its national office, Canberra.

The appointment will primarily involve front desk duties such as answering phones, greeting visitors and managing the national office email account. Administrative duties will include significant support for managing ACL’s database, and supporter correspondence via mail and email, and other general duties as required.

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Jivrashia 12:31 pm 24 Jan 14

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

poetix said :

Every time he comments, a little angel of atheism dies.

What’s an angel? (Or was that a metaphor?)

It’s like when the cows come home, or when you’ve managed to herd cats, or when pigs fly.

IrishPete 10:49 am 24 Jan 14

Masquara said :

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

poetix said :

Every time he comments, a little angel of atheism dies.

What’s an angel? Is that the thing that killed all those innocent foreign babies as a negotiating tactic during a diplomatic dispute after biological weapons targeting civilians failed to have the desired effect? (Or was that a metaphor?)

You’d have to ask Julian Assange’s dad about that, wouldn’t you? He was over there shooting the breeze with the Syrian regime just the other day!

Careful: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/assanges-father-to-start-legal-action-against-tony-abbott-julie-bishop-20140102-3080z.html

Masquara 4:41 am 24 Jan 14

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

poetix said :

Every time he comments, a little angel of atheism dies.

What’s an angel? Is that the thing that killed all those innocent foreign babies as a negotiating tactic during a diplomatic dispute after biological weapons targeting civilians failed to have the desired effect? (Or was that a metaphor?)

You’d have to ask Julian Assange’s dad about that, wouldn’t you? He was over there shooting the breeze with the Syrian regime just the other day!

Pork Hunt 10:36 pm 23 Jan 14

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

poetix said :

Every time he comments, a little angel of atheism dies.

What’s an angel? Is that the thing that killed all those innocent foreign babies as a negotiating tactic during a diplomatic dispute after biological weapons targeting civilians failed to have the desired effect? (Or was that a metaphor?)

Metaphors are relatively non-lethal…

Woody Mann-Caruso 10:28 pm 23 Jan 14

poetix said :

Every time he comments, a little angel of atheism dies.

What’s an angel? Is that the thing that killed all those innocent foreign babies as a negotiating tactic during a diplomatic dispute after biological weapons targeting civilians failed to have the desired effect? (Or was that a metaphor?)

Thumper 9:51 pm 23 Jan 14

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Most Indigenous Australians are Christian. Anyone care to knock Indigenous Australians over that?Thought not.

Happily!

Are you an Aboriginal Australian or a Torres Strait Islander? Are you also a member of a death cult that worships a Jewish dissident zombie wizard because there’s totally a book about it? Then you’re delusional. You may well be a lovely person, a hard worker, and an all-round upstanding citizen, but you’re still delusional, and your inability* to reason your way out of your predicament means I worry about you.

*It’s almost certainly not your fault. It’s a meme that selects for gullibility / desperation, then rewards ignorance and punishes rational thought. You might as well try to give up smoking or cure depression by wishing really hard for an invisible imaginary friend to fix you**.

**Sorry, you call it ‘prayer’.

Chill out Woody. You don’t need to be an intolerant prick every day of your life.

poetix 9:08 pm 23 Jan 14

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Most Indigenous Australians are Christian. Anyone care to knock Indigenous Australians over that?Thought not.

Happily!

Are you an Aboriginal Australian or a Torres Strait Islander? Are you also a member of a death cult that worships a Jewish dissident zombie wizard because there’s totally a book about it? Then you’re delusional. You may well be a lovely person, a hard worker, and an all-round upstanding citizen, but you’re still delusional, and your inability* to reason your way out of your predicament means I worry about you.

*It’s almost certainly not your fault. It’s a meme that selects for gullibility / desperation, then rewards ignorance and punishes rational thought. You might as well try to give up smoking or cure depression by wishing really hard for an invisible imaginary friend to fix you**.

**Sorry, you call it ‘prayer’.

Every time he comments, a little angel of atheism dies.

Woody Mann-Caruso 7:51 pm 23 Jan 14

Most Indigenous Australians are Christian. Anyone care to knock Indigenous Australians over that?Thought not.

Happily!

Are you an Aboriginal Australian or a Torres Strait Islander? Are you also a member of a death cult that worships a Jewish dissident zombie wizard because there’s totally a book about it? Then you’re delusional. You may well be a lovely person, a hard worker, and an all-round upstanding citizen, but you’re still delusional, and your inability* to reason your way out of your predicament means I worry about you.

*It’s almost certainly not your fault. It’s a meme that selects for gullibility / desperation, then rewards ignorance and punishes rational thought. You might as well try to give up smoking or cure depression by wishing really hard for an invisible imaginary friend to fix you**.

**Sorry, you call it ‘prayer’.

Pork Hunt 5:37 pm 23 Jan 14

watto23 said :

Masquara said :

watto23 said :

Masquara said :

Most Indigenous Australians are Christian. Anyone care to knock Indigenous Australians over that?

Thought not.

I highly doubt that to be the case. Maybe they are told to do it on their census form. But they are not Christians and never were. Indigenous Australians like many Pacific islanders and Africans are Christian, because that religion got their first and forced their religion onto them. So maybe now hundreds of years later they are “Christians” but not because of choice necessarily and its the part of religion that upsets me the most. Forcing or telling others who to believe as you do.

You’re saying in effect that Indigenous Australians and Pacific Islanders are not capable of deciding their spiritual beliefs in a multifaith society? Tell that to a Tongan congregation! I dare you!

Actually they are not AS capable because they have been raised to believe in their religion and part of that process takes away any reasoning that another faith is even possible. So yes I’m kind of saying that. However I recognise they have Christian beliefs and are Christians and also they have freedom to choose even if that freedom has been distorted by the “facts” provided to them by the church.

My point is that before the missionaries they had tribal beliefs and other cultural beliefs and the only reason they are Christians now is because missionaries took it apon themselves to tell them they had it all wrong and save them from their terrible belief in their Tongan/Samoan/Fijian gods. Once religion is ingrained in a culture the ability to choose is very difficult because changing often means hostility towards the person changing their beliefs. Hostility could range from being left out of things, bullying (like the ACL does) or even violence.

The sames goes for Australia. Just because we were settled by a christian empire in Britain, doesn’t mean this country is christian. The ACL assumes uses this point to try and suggest it values are what all Australians should stick to. Lately the term Judo-Christianity has been used, because it adds numbers to their cause, even though they are different faiths.

We are a secular country by law and constitution. We are not a christian country or any other religious country. We are lucky that people in Australia have the freedom to choose. I don’t think in many countries you have the choice because doing so makes you an outcast.

Judo-Christianity is an interesting concept. I wonder what the sermons are like?

On a lighter note, someone, possibly Desmond Tutu, once said of missionaries in Africa:
“When the white man came to Africa, we had the land and they had the bibles. They said let us close our eyes and pray.
When we opened our eyes, they had the land and we had the bibles”.

IrishPete 3:17 pm 23 Jan 14

justsomeaussie said :

I’m sure catholic’s doesn’t call themselves a non Anglican over a catholic.

In 1950s Australia possibly, just like in Northern Ireland now. And there are other places where the rivalry and animosity between similar religions is much stronger than between those that are very different. (In NI Jewish people used to be asked if they were Catholic Jewish or Protestant Jewish – I presume they immediately packed their bags and left for a slightly saner environment.)

IP

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