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By housebound - 20 August 2009 26

In its own little test of the validity of willingenss-to-pay theory, our illustrious leader has decided to introduce a voluntary gold coin donation for entry into the ACT Parks and Conservation estate. The idea is that it will reign in TaMS’ mult-mullion dollar overspend.

The only problem is that Australians, and people in general, are usually unwilling to pay. Witness the low rates of payment for voluntary school fees at public schools as an example. I expect no better on this scheme, and that’s assuming no one raids the locked boxes for parking money.

Our leader is also not too hopeful about the prospects of this scheme succeeding, but he seems to think it is worth a go. Full marks for trying, at least.

There’s no ACT Government press release yet, but here’s the ABC story.

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Are you prepared to pay?
Pommy bastard 9:23 am 21 Aug 09

georgesgenitals said :

Hoe many western countries tax higher, when you consider income tax, GST, excise and other taxes?

Most have a higher tax burden;

http://comparativetaxation.treasury.gov.au/content/report/images/05_Chapter_3-32.gif

Jerry Atric 9:11 am 21 Aug 09

Jivrashia said :

Only a gold coin??

Has anyone been up Mt. Tennent and noticed how well the tracks are maintained? Some of the staircases, built using surrounding rocks and the natural contour of the outcrop rocks, are a work of art!

Has anyone been on the walking track around Mt Rogers recently? This “Park” serves 5 adjacent suburbs and many more a little further away. There is an active group that collects rubbish and removes pest plants. But using the track itself qualifies as an extreme sport.

To the best of my knowledge there has been NO maintenance for 30 years (yes,30). Where has the TAMS overspend gone?

Yes, I don’t mind paying but I think we are entitled to see what it is used for.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 9:09 am 21 Aug 09

Some googling would indicate that Australia is middle of the road when it comes to taxes.

peterh 9:05 am 21 Aug 09

georgesgenitals said :

Hoe many western countries tax higher, when you consider income tax, GST, excise and other taxes?

the Uk, New Zealand, The US, oh, I don’t know, most of the EU?

UK has VAT, NZ has 12% GST. I would rather our model of taxes / gst etc, thanks. Gold Coin Donation is just the start. Once we are used to it, then we would see another option, park passes introduced. nothing wrong with it, i bet there a few people who pay the park passes at the snow without worrying.

Panhead 8:14 am 21 Aug 09

I did an assignment at school earlier this year and found some interesting data on taxation burden for OECD countries. Using the measure of total taxation as a proportion of GDP, compared to other OECD countries Australia is one of the lowest taxing countries in the developed world and this has been the case for the last 40 years or so.

GregW 8:12 am 21 Aug 09

Australia is undeniably a high taxing country, however that is not to say there aren’t many other countries who also tax heavily.

See: http://www.oecd.org/vgn/images/portal/cit_731/4/43/38148468Table%20O_2.jpg

As georgesgenitals said, I already pay a significant amount of my income to the government so I don’t feel any responsibility to further contribute. If the budget was in deficit I may support tax increases (to every citizen) but still wouldn’t feel the need to donate to the government if they elected not to do so.

georgesgenitals 7:43 am 21 Aug 09

Hoe many western countries tax higher, when you consider income tax, GST, excise and other taxes?

GB 10:44 pm 20 Aug 09

georgesgenitals said :

We live in a high taxing country, .

Hilarious disinformation.

We don’t.

housebound 9:41 pm 20 Aug 09

I’ve seen figures as low as 30% at more than a few public schools – but that was a couple of years ago – probably a media report from when the ‘voluntary contributions’ tiff hit the media. Well done at your schools for hitting the 100% mark.

I-filed 9:21 pm 20 Aug 09

NOT happy to contribute a gold coin when my rates are now over two grand a year and the budget is in surplus …

Spectra 8:33 pm 20 Aug 09

Witness the low rates of payment for voluntary school fees at public schools as an example.

Do you have any figures to back up this claim? I’m given to understand that, at least at the two schools I’m privy to the details of, payment of these fees runs at nearly 100%. I realise it’s lower at other schools (with something of a correlation to the socio-economic status of the area), but I’d like to know what numbers you’re using to support your claim that “people in general are usually unwilling to pay”.

Jivrashia 7:34 pm 20 Aug 09

Only a gold coin??

Has anyone been up Mt. Tennent and noticed how well the tracks are maintained? Some of the staircases, built using surrounding rocks and the natural contour of the outcrop rocks, are a work of art!

Mt. Tennant is just near the Namadgi National Park Visitor Centre. Only 40min away from the furthest northern part of Canberra. You don’t have to climb the whole mountain. Just 20min walk up will get you to a nice scenic spot of the valley below where you can have lunch, and then head back. 2hrs on a weekend can give you a peace of mind.

How about a Queen’s bill? Yes, I’d pay that much.

Thumper 6:22 pm 20 Aug 09

How long until they introduce permits and park fees?

georgesgenitals 6:07 pm 20 Aug 09

We live in a high taxing country, especially if you earn above average. As such, people feel they have already paid, and generally won’t pay again unless they have to.

Pommy bastard 5:26 pm 20 Aug 09

A tough one. I feel I should be willing to pay, and voluntarily drop a gold coin in a box, as I take great enjoyment out of, and appreciate the having facility of these amenities. However, I feel that as this represents the thin edge of commercialising these facilities, other ways of funding them may be needed. (Maybe the money which is currently spent on festivals could be redirected?)

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