Border Force by tram

The Gold Coast Liberal National Party Mayot Tom Tate has described their Highly successful light rail as “a reality study” but the Federal Liberal government refuses to fund the 2nd stage extension despite it is “a no brainer”,

ChrisinTurner said :

Don’t forget the Federal government refused to provide any funding for Light Rail in Canberra because it was unsuitable and uneconomic.

But funded yet more 100% loss making freeways (as they always do) because both the politicians and their senior bureaucrats are chauffeured around in taxpayer paid CommCars when they are not getting there in “suitable and economic” helicopters.

This federal government is driven by both voodoo economics and voodoo science.

Don’t expect anything except bile and prejudice to determine infrastructure decisions.

HiddenDragon said :

dungfungus said :

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

Yeah they are great aren’t they!

Beautiful city and the trams help keep it that way and make it so much easier to get around with a distinct lack of ugly car parking and car parks to mar the beauty.

I recall that in another thread you were praising Gaudi and his architecture which is prominent in Barcelona.
You are aware that Gaudi died from injuries received when a tram ran over him in Barcelona?

And as we approach the 185th anniversary, let us not forget William Huskisson:

http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/huskisson.html

1.2 million people a year are killed by cars and over 50 million seriously injured according to WHO.

Just imagine if they had caught “unsafe” public transport!

The saddest story of the first introduction of automobiles was the carnage it wrought on children who up to that time used to play in the streets. It took a long time to train the children that public spaces were no longer theirs but had been taken from them by those much more deserving. People too lazy to make their own way around but couldn’t afford palanquins.

Their descendants may not have developed the necessary instincts to avoid reversing 4WDs in their parents driveways, but the survivors have learnt that travel by buttock is “needed” and getting around on your own two legs and public transport has been outlawed by the self appointed anti-public transport vigilantes of Tuggeranong.

Don’t forget the Federal government refused to provide any funding for Light Rail in Canberra because it was unsuitable and uneconomic.

gazket said :

Lefties bludge of the system and want everyone else to pay for their transport.

What like how my taxes go to pay for roads? Absolutely ridiculous argument. One could probably argue that Lefties taxes subsidise the righties car obsession.

Then again NSW Liberal government are extending or building more light rail in Sydney, Light Rail in Newcastle. New light rail on the GC and proposal for light rail on the Sunshine coast also.

Although I fear I may be retired before we get a sensible public transport plan from the Libs in the ACT. Technically we haven’t got one from Labor either, as I can never see light rail being viable to Tuggeranong or even Woden.

ungruntled said :

Same old, same old . .

They put in trams when trams were new. The rest of the city grew around them

Where rail has gone into green-field sites it is still often reasonably successful.

It’s now nearly 2016. Time has moved on. So has technology. So has global pollution.

We can do better. Why don’t we try !

Thankfully we are getting a light rail line not a team line. Been plenty of light lines put into cities after the fact.

Ps we can go better can we. How do? More buses? Pods running on monorails like someone here constantly peddles? Teleporting?

dungfungus said :

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

Yeah they are great aren’t they!

Beautiful city and the trams help keep it that way and make it so much easier to get around with a distinct lack of ugly car parking and car parks to mar the beauty.

I recall that in another thread you were praising Gaudi and his architecture which is prominent in Barcelona.
You are aware that Gaudi died from injuries received when a tram ran over him in Barcelona?

And as we approach the 185th anniversary, let us not forget William Huskisson:

http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/huskisson.html

Lefties bludge of the system and want everyone else to pay for their transport.

bikhet said :

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.

That’s because Melbourne has a tram NETWORK, not one line that goes from nowhere to nowhere. The Melbourne network is great. I use it whenever I’m there and when I lived in Melbourne I didn’t own a car as I used the trams all the time.

ungruntled said :

They put in trams when trams were new. The rest of the city grew around them

Not just when trams were new, but before car ownership was common.

rubaiyat said :

Beautiful city and the trams help keep it that way and make it so much easier to get around with a distinct lack of ugly car parking and car parks to mar the beauty.

Wrong! Melbourne may be a beautiful city, but there’s still plenty of car parking and car parks.

Wrong! Not in the main city streets and not the ugly in your face open broken pavement and concrete monstrosities everywhere in Canberra.

dungfungus said :

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

Yeah they are great aren’t they!

Beautiful city and the trams help keep it that way and make it so much easier to get around with a distinct lack of ugly car parking and car parks to mar the beauty.

I recall that in another thread you were praising Gaudi and his architecture which is prominent in Barcelona.
You are aware that Gaudi died from injuries received when a tram ran over him in Barcelona?

Yes, and that Isadora Duncan died when her scarf wrapped around the axle of the car she was travelling in, T. S. Lawrence topped himself on a motorbike, James Dean in his sports car…

So?

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

Yeah they are great aren’t they!

Beautiful city and the trams help keep it that way and make it so much easier to get around with a distinct lack of ugly car parking and car parks to mar the beauty.

I recall that in another thread you were praising Gaudi and his architecture which is prominent in Barcelona.
You are aware that Gaudi died from injuries received when a tram ran over him in Barcelona?

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.

That’s because Melbourne has a tram NETWORK, not one line that goes from nowhere to nowhere. The Melbourne network is great. I use it whenever I’m there and when I lived in Melbourne I didn’t own a car as I used the trams all the time.

ungruntled said :

They put in trams when trams were new. The rest of the city grew around them

Not just when trams were new, but before car ownership was common.

rubaiyat said :

Beautiful city and the trams help keep it that way and make it so much easier to get around with a distinct lack of ugly car parking and car parks to mar the beauty.

Wrong! Melbourne may be a beautiful city, but there’s still plenty of car parking and car parks.

rubaiyat said :

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

Yeah they are great aren’t they!

Beautiful city and the trams help keep it that way and make it so much easier to get around with a distinct lack of ugly car parking and car parks to mar the beauty.

There must be two Barcelonas because that is not the one I saw 3 years ago.

dungfungus said :

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

Yeah they are great aren’t they!

Beautiful city and the trams help keep it that way and make it so much easier to get around with a distinct lack of ugly car parking and car parks to mar the beauty.

Che?

Same old, same old . .

They put in trams when trams were new. The rest of the city grew around them

Where rail has gone into green-field sites it is still often reasonably successful.

It’s now nearly 2016. Time has moved on. So has technology. So has global pollution.

We can do better. Why don’t we try !

Difficult to work out what John’s point is but I conclude that lefties prefer to use trams on the way to demos.
Don’t know why the pic is of a Barcelona tram – John was in Spain recently and he appears to have been mesmerised by the trams in that city.

Now you’ve done it.

1. Trams are evil
2. Criticising the outstanding work the Federal Government is doing is the devils work
3. What next? Saying that we are pretty damn close to being in a recession?

Get thee behind me.

What?