Calling the Defence Rioters

johnboy 24 January 2007 36

It appears that in the last few days the nerds over seeing the Department of Defence’s internet access have made some changes. One of the upshots of that is that folk in Defence can’t access our login page to make a comment.

They can still read our stuff (with the ads scraped I might mention, policy to wipe out the revenue of information sites is it?), just not make any comments themselves from work.

So, if you’re one of those staring at the screen and screaming in frustration at not being able to have your say, I suggest you join the hundreds of other Rioters in Defence in making an official complaint about it.

The sooner you get it in done, the sooner you can start telling everyone here they’re an idiot.

That is all.


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Deano Deano 10:43 pm 27 Jan 07

Does this mean they are Defenceless to respond to our insults?

It has only taken them 8 weeks to respond to our last criticism.
Pretty typical of Defence IT response times actually.

johnboy johnboy 7:39 pm 27 Jan 07

All depends where you are on the greasy pole. Plenty of RA readers are high enough to change departmental policy.

Many others aren’t.

I-filed I-filed 6:56 pm 27 Jan 07

Don’t rock the boat folks – or they’ll get sterner. At ATO there’s a single workstation on every floor where people can go to internet bank. No internet access at workstations at all. At my workplace you can surf the net and use internet banking, but can’t post to forums.

LurkerGal LurkerGal 10:14 am 26 Jan 07

Most govt agencies allow “a reasonable amount of personal use of e-mail and internet”. We are encouraged to use internet banking during work hours, as it means less time away from the office at the bank to pay bills.

But I justify my use on here as research. Many of my reports have included comments from here. It is important to know what the community is thinking!!!!!!!!!

Of course, my comments are all personal, but it sounds like a good reason.

LG Accessing from home at the moment.

emd emd 7:48 pm 25 Jan 07

Yes Sammy, free-to-air over the partition from me, and pay tv in the meeting room down the hall. It almost makes up for IT bureaucracy.

As I understand it, we can still see RA from Defence, just can’t comment anymore? Even though RA would probably be considered personal use and therefore not really allowed, the real issue here is the ability to comment. And I just can’t see the IT nerds changing that policy anytime this millenium.

Pandy Pandy 5:53 pm 25 Jan 07

St(ruth)! Thumper, what block are you in Sirius?

We should havea cuppocino from Sam at the Dogstar cafe.

simto simto 2:47 pm 25 Jan 07

Well, in the break room I do.

Sammy Sammy 2:18 pm 25 Jan 07

stick my head over the partition and look at the TV

Woah, hold on a second. You have a TV in the workplace at Defence?

seepi seepi 11:56 am 25 Jan 07

True – and at ABS most people don’t have internet. AT ATO you ahve to apply to have it and make a case as to why you need it for work purposes.

Thumper Thumper 11:24 am 25 Jan 07

Not at Trademarks….

seepi seepi 11:08 am 25 Jan 07

Emd I think reading newspapers online is also allowed.

S4anta S4anta 10:50 am 25 Jan 07

this will be rolling out accross all Commonwelath agencies soon folks.

emd emd 9:18 pm 24 Jan 07

johnboy, I personally have no problem with pictures of summernats girls on your website. I was trying to explain the intricacies of Defence internet use policy.

By all means, put in a request to log in and post your RA comments from Defence. But don’t expect them to allow it just because lots of people want it. Lots of people want Hotmail, and Defence doesn’t allow that for the same reasons. People can still read the RA stories if they want to risk getting pinged for personal use of Defence internet resources – just like I can still check cricket scores if I’m too lazy to stick my head over the partition and look at the TV.

The official policy is that the only non-work websites we are allowed to access is internet banking, so we can check if we got paid. Like I said, it doesn’t matter if it’s common sense. It’s just how it is.

Thumper Thumper 8:48 pm 24 Jan 07

Hre’s a story for you.

In another government department who I worked for, I was involved in doing a lot of back ground briefs. As such I spent a lot of time on the net loking up home pages of politicians.

Imagine my surprise when a Federal Greens home page came up as ‘UNACCEPTABLE- PERSONAL BELIEFS OR CULTS’ or something to that effect.

unbelievable, but true.

johnboy johnboy 8:41 pm 24 Jan 07

emd if anyone tries to tell you they have a zero tolerance policy for “unacceptable” content you’ll know you’re talking to a bullshitter, as there’s no such standard.

I’m sorry you didn’t like the summernats picture but it was in no way indecent and I ran it past a panel (which included a woman) to check for offence.

Now defence is entitled to run its internet the way it likes, but as long as popular sites with no work content are allowed we’re talking about a restraint of trade being perpetrated by unaccountable IT Nerds serving their own ends and not those of the users.

Many other blocked sites have become unblocked when users have expressed their thoughts on the block, all I’m asking is that Defence users unhappy with the block also express their views and let the chips fall where they may.

Thumper Thumper 8:19 pm 24 Jan 07

Emd, what about Cricinfo?

That would be Unaustralian (TM) to ban Cricinfo, or ABC live streaming of the cricket!

emd emd 8:15 pm 24 Jan 07

PS they haven’t yet noticed that baggygreen.com.au is not work-related. So please don’t tell them.

emd emd 8:14 pm 24 Jan 07

It doesn’t matter what common sense says about use of internet at work. What matters is that Defence has a zero tolerance policy on viewing unacceptable material (and they may well view some of the photos posted to RA as unacceptable). They also have a clear policy on personal use of the internet. So if you’re viewing RA at Defence, do so at your own risk. They DO log sites visited.

Defence is not a democracy. It just defends one.

Thumper Thumper 7:49 pm 24 Jan 07

“The acceptance that people can and should take breaks has never been recognised by Defence”

Hahahahahaha…

N’er a truer word spoken!

luca luca 7:27 pm 24 Jan 07

Are you wif us or agin us vg!

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