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Canberra A-League Bid Gathers Pace

By MWest - 25 November 2008 19

SBS’s The World Game is reporting that Canberra’s A-League Bid is continuing to gather pace. Ivan Slavich, the bid leader, “claims the Australian Capital Territory is fertile ground for league expansion and his bid should “tick every box” for entry requirement.” There was also a piece in the SMH over the weekend, which can be found here.

I believe that the $6 million required to start the team has been raised and now it seems it’s not a question of if but when. And over $200,000 dollars has been raised from more than 1000 foundation members (including 300 corporate members) for a team that doesn’t yet exist. I guess that is no surprise given the large numbers involved in football here, either directly (18,000+ registered players in Canberra alone) or indirectly (probably 50,000 people if you include parents, families and social players).

I can’t wait to have an A-League team in Canberra. If you want to find out more visit http://www.a-league4canberra.com.au. There are still foundation memberships available too.

By the way, the turn out to W-League games in Canberra has been great – the highest for the competition to date. The next home game is on Saturday Dec 6 at McKellar Park, Belconnen against competition favourites Sydney FC. A-League4Canberra foundation members get in for free. Details at http://www.canberraunited.com.au

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Canberra A-League Bid Gathers Pace
Nambucco Deliria 6:49 pm 25 Nov 08

How does that answer the argument I was making? The point I was making, if I wasn’t clear enough, was that that piece of info, offered by the Media Liason Officer of the franchise bid was just one of many pointless pieces of obfuscation and feelgood meaninglessness amongst many, all in some way presented as proof that it is necessary for Canberra to have a team in the A-League; but, since you choose to argue the toss… If the A-League was a proper league – wih multiple divisions, promotion and relegation and ‘real’ teams, as opposed to made-for-TV franchises,just like Brazil, then maybe Canberra would stand a chance of moving organically through the divisions. But it isn’t, and, as I’ve said here and elsewhere many times but haven’t received an answer – where are the players coming from? Why does having a lot of junior players automatically equal attendances of 15,000 to see a team of unknowns?

MWest 6:27 pm 25 Nov 08

Nambucco… Brazil’s professional football competition is divided into 3 divisions and they have a promotion and relegation system (which the A-League does not have). Brasilia has two football teams in the national competition. Brasiliense Futebol Clube and Sociedade Esportiva do Gama are play in the Brasileiro Série B (the second division).

Nambucco Deliria 5:39 pm 25 Nov 08

John Thistleton’s piece was a complete and utter uncritical puff piece that was so full of holes and fuzzy logic it must have been written for him by the franchise themselves.
It was full of tosh like ‘the A-League without a team from the Nation’s Capital is not a good look’ – has anyone told the Brazilians – by some way the most football mad nation in the world- that their league is rubbish because there’s no team from Brasilia in it? Would it make a World Cup bid from them less credible? No.It matters not one iota to an Australian bid for the World Cup if Canberra has a team in the league or not, since Canberra Stadium isn’t big enough capacity wise to stage World Cup Finals matches anyway.
There aren’t enough good players in Australia to sustain an 8 team league – where are all the new players coming from to play in a 10, 12, 14 team league?

The team behind the franchise bid are so caught up in their Munchausenesque daydreaming they don’t seem to have spent any time on the gritty realities.

MWest 4:28 pm 25 Nov 08

Hdolper… is that 10,000 registered AFL players in total or just juniors? I have a feeling that number is across all age brackets including the senior men. There are only 13 junior clubs in the ACT competition (including Yass) which means that each club would have to have a minimum of approx. 769 junior players each. That means assuming there are 12 junior age divisions each club has a minimum of 64 players per age division or 3 teams per club as a minimum in each age division. That is definitely not the case – there were about 12 divisions in ACT junior AFL across ALL junior age groups in total.

If each AFL team has 25 players and each of the 13 junior clubs had a team in each of the 11 divisions that would give 3575 junior AFL players. Let’s be generous and say 4000 juniors. I don’t think your numbers stack up. Sorry.

There are over 30 junior football clubs in the ACT. You can find the Capital Football Annual report at http://www.capitalfootball.com.au/docs/library/General/Capital%20Football%20Annual%20Report%202007.pdf

Hdopler 3:56 pm 25 Nov 08

Nope, just more hyperbole, AFL has 10,000 registered players in the ACT, and combined with Rugby that definitively disproves the first point from that link.

MWest said :

According to the A-league 4 Canberra site: http://www.a-league4canberra.com.au/site/capital.php

“The ACT has a strong football community, from junior players through to masters (over 35s), with a greater number of registered participants in the ACT than any other form of football with:

* Approximately 13,000 registered juniors (more than the other three codes of football combined)
* Approximately 4,000 senior men; and
* Approximately 1,200 senior women”

The Capital Football Annual Report is not out for 2008 yet. It should have the exact numbers. I know there were over 12,000 registered juniors in 2007 and it had been growing at greater than 7% per year. Senior men’s football has had a 10% or higher growth rate over the past few years.

RAGD 3:40 pm 25 Nov 08

Also, since it is in summer, it ensures more people involved in Football during the winter time can come. I know I am having withdrawal symptons right now, I need my football and I am missing it currently.

I would have gone to the last pre-season game earlier this year, but it was right bang in the middle of our season, so I know I lot of people didn’t go and watch, simply because they were kicking the ball around themselves.

MWest 2:44 pm 25 Nov 08

OK Holden… we haven’t qualified for the World Cup yet but we should only need to win 2 of the next 5 qualifiers to go directly through.

MWest 2:42 pm 25 Nov 08

There were ~7,000 people at the A-League pre-season game earlier this year. And that was in the middle of winter on a terribly cold day!

MWest 2:40 pm 25 Nov 08

According to the A-league 4 Canberra site: http://www.a-league4canberra.com.au/site/capital.php

“The ACT has a strong football community, from junior players through to masters (over 35s), with a greater number of registered participants in the ACT than any other form of football with:

* Approximately 13,000 registered juniors (more than the other three codes of football combined)
* Approximately 4,000 senior men; and
* Approximately 1,200 senior women”

The Capital Football Annual Report is not out for 2008 yet. It should have the exact numbers. I know there were over 12,000 registered juniors in 2007 and it had been growing at greater than 7% per year. Senior men’s football has had a 10% or higher growth rate over the past few years.

Hdopler 2:25 pm 25 Nov 08

Hmmm…. last report i ever saw was close to 4000 rugby players in the ACT, does that soccer figure include indoor soccer and all sundry types? i would be very surprised if it had surpassed rugby given the popularity of that sport in Canberra:

http://fulltext.ausport.gov.au/fulltext/2000/ascpub/pdf/rugby%20union%202.pdf

“Armed with market research predicting home crowds of more than 15,000 fans – many more than the well-established Brumbies and Raiders”

Wasn’t last years brumbies crowd average around 14k per game? hmmm…. bit of hyperbole methinks…

Holden Caulfield 2:01 pm 25 Nov 08

MWest said :

…The Socceroos qualifying for the 2010 World Cup…

Have I missed something?

We’re sitting pretty now, but there’s still plenty of time for things to go tits up.

johnboy 1:26 pm 25 Nov 08

Be great for the Brumbies if this can finally put the Raiders out of their misery.

MWest 1:25 pm 25 Nov 08

There are many reasons why an A-League Team in Canberra won’t be a repeat of the Canberra Cosmos. The A-League is a summer competition so no competition from the Brumbies or Raiders and you won’t freeze your butt off at the games. More registered players here than every other football code combined. The success and marketing power of the A-League. The Socceroos qualifying for the 2010 World Cup. Ben Buckley, the CEO of the FFA, recently wrote an open letter which gives plenty of evidence that football is here to stay in Australia. It can be found at http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/InsideFFA/default.aspx?s=insideffa_newsfeatures_newsitem&id=24887

John Thistleton, the Business Editor at the Canberra Times, also wrote an interesting piece a few weeks back which is worth a read. It’s not on CT’s site but is reproduced at NearPost http://nearpost.blogspot.com/2008/11/canberra-times-on-canberra-league.html

Hdopler 1:06 pm 25 Nov 08

Net enough population and Financial to support three ‘main-stream’ professional mens teams in Canberra. Cannon, Brumbies, Raiders – one folded. Same will be true this time around. I like rugby too much to care about which other code folds.

BenMac 12:55 pm 25 Nov 08

I can see another Canberra Cosmos thing happeneing here. Initial support, but small crowd numbers and poor performances. Hope I’m wrong though.

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