Canberra Business Club supports Community Alliance Party and Mark Parton (Independent)

Who is Murphy?

Well… not exactly (although describing them as community activists may be… incomplete, given I’d guess that, given Mulchay, Pangallo and Murphy, the community they’re describing is the business commmunity).

The general vibe I’m getting from CAP tends to be “disaffected Liberals, who don’t believe the party shares the values they want to run with any more”. Now, whether it’s a positive or a negative that the current mob of liberals don’t share those values is up to the individual voter to decide…

Why would someone forever associated with the ACT Libs suddenly take to the CAP. Are they Libs in community activist clothing?

thumper; i dont like launching into smears off the back of rumours i hear because it looks like i lack confidence in my sides ability to win on their merits. some time after the election you can buy me a pint and i’ll let you in on them then.

Unload man. Frankly I have doubts about CAP as well.

And I have doubts about Libs and ALP.

Feel free. Post away…

thumper; i could unload on this bloke, i could have unloaded on the kate carnell thread, but i’ve chosen not to.
still i dont see how pointing out that norvan is the only CAP candidiate for molonglo is sticking up for the ALP; but you know, actually reading my comments might be a little beyond you. tool.

spoonbill said :

Just makes you want to ask, what is in it for the Canberra Business Community? He is quoted in the Canberra Times as saying wants to be the voice of reason – what for the people of Canberra or for business issues?

Indeed. Furthermore, doe’s being a “voice of reason” extend to having a policy on correct use of apostrophe’s? Whoever wrote his blurb on the official website need’s to proof read before publishing: http://markparton.com/

Oh come on tom tom, there is more to life than sticking up for the ALP.

Seriously mate, you are overdoing it. Seriously, you are really starting to sound like a tool.

lead candidate for molonglo, snigger snigger; more like only candidate for molonglo

Norvan.Vogt said :

When in office each of us will do our best to promote stability and good governance.

Er, don’t you mean, ‘IF’ you get elected to office? You sound a tad arrogant already.

Norvan.Vogt said :

Also, by the end of the week we have 31 policies up on our website; we have been working hard to have these developed before Sept 12. More detail on each of these polices will unveiled at our various policy launches during the Campaign proper (Sept 12 – Oct 18).

Wow, 31 policies up on your website! Should I be more impressed if you had a gazillion policies on your site, or if you had only one really, really good one?

Norvan.Vogt said :

The roads have potholes everywhere, the footpaths are dirty and our services have not working. Canberra is the National Capital of Australia and should look like it, I love Canberra and I want to get the basics right.

I drove from Tuggers to Belco twice today and didn’t fall into any potholes – in fact I can’t even remember seeing one, so please let me know just where the “potholes are everywhere”. I’d like to take the family out tomorrow for a look. I also look forward to seeing, “when” you get into office, the CAP hiring people to make sure all our paths are scrubbed twice daily and the hiring a squad of crack pothole fillers to work round the clock! I’m also writing to Stanhope right away to tell him to get his finger out as our waters too wet and the mountains too low!

BTW: what does a national capital look like? I’ve been to many capital cities around the world in 1st, 2nd and 3rd world countries and I’m yet to see any typcal plan or standard. Perhaps you can forward me your copy of “Planning Capital Cities of the World for Dummies”.

From CAP website today: “The Community Alliance candidates accepted CBC’s support on the basis that there could be ‘no strings attached’ in line with the party’s underlying philosophy, according to Mr Hingee.”

Yeah, right. And pigs might fly.

Do you have a favourite pothole that you’re tired of dodging? – William Hovell Drive, just past the Coppins Crossing lights heading West – right on the bend as you are accelerating downhill in that lovely 80 limited zone which should be 110.

I love the Triffid breeding ground that is Commonwealth Avenue bridge. Surely the Gov can afford a couple of bucks worth of Roundup.

miz said :

Skidbladnir – Gilmore Primary, right where you turn into the car park – three potholes in a row! This school is a electoral voting location for the upcoming ACT election, and
I love that the potholes will silently bear witness on that day to the standard of the ACT Govt’s services.

*hehe*

Who wants to bet they will mysteriously be repaired in the next six weeks or so?

Skidbladnir – Gilmore Primary, right where you turn into the car park – three potholes in a row! This school is a electoral voting location for the upcoming ACT election, and
I love that the potholes will silently bear witness on that day to the standard of the ACT Govt’s services.

Jakez,
I thought by virtue of the fact it was on RiotACT, it is credible?
Aurelius

Thumper said :

and Jim Murphy (with his own money) is contributing funding to the ACT liberals

I was under the impression that Murphy was no longer funding the Libs/ can anyone confirm that?

That is correct Thumper.

Smee: The rumours section of Crikey is not a credible source. The rumours section of Crikey quoted on RiotACT is MOST DEFINITELY not a credible source.

and Jim Murphy (with his own money) is contributing funding to the ACT liberals

I was under the impression that Murphy was no longer funding the Libs/ can anyone confirm that?

smee said :

Interesting that the Canberra Business Club (Jim Murphy et al) is contributing funds to the CAP and Jim Murphy (with his own money) is contributing funding to the ACT liberals.

Looks like Jim is looking for influence in both parties.

I’ve been on the left of politics most of my life but with the recent poor performance of the ACT Labor party I’ve actually been motivated enough to start looking elsewhere. However, before the rest start cheering I’m not seeing anything better with any other party.

I was looking at the CAP since Val Jefferies is running in my area but Jim Murphy’s involvement leaves me suspicious.

I guess it will probably come down to the standard Aussie voting tradition. Who do I hate the least.

I will be voting based on the usual – what are their policies, the WIFM factor (what’s in it for me) and do i know any of the candidates personally or professionally?

makes sense for me to vote for someone that I have met / understand, if their beliefs are similar to mine.

Interesting that the Canberra Business Club (Jim Murphy et al) is contributing funds to the CAP and Jim Murphy (with his own money) is contributing funding to the ACT liberals.

Looks like Jim is looking for influence in both parties.

I’ve been on the left of politics most of my life but with the recent poor performance of the ACT Labor party I’ve actually been motivated enough to start looking elsewhere. However, before the rest start cheering I’m not seeing anything better with any other party.

I was looking at the CAP since Val Jefferies is running in my area but Jim Murphy’s involvement leaves me suspicious.

I guess it will probably come down to the standard Aussie voting tradition. Who do I hate the least.

caf said :

jakez: In answer to the question in your article, he’s certainly no libertarian. More like an old fashioned “young people are the devil” Tory with a strong Laura Norder bent.

…bugger.

jakez: In answer to the question in your article, he’s certainly no libertarian. More like an old fashioned “young people are the devil” Tory with a strong Laura Norder bent.

S4anta said :

Skids,

Queanbeyan and Bradiwood.

LOL!

but don’t you mean braidwood??

Skids,

Queanbeyan and Bradiwood.

On lack of services, I will get out with my camera and take a picture of the 2008 Memorial Pothol sometime this weekend.

Do you have a favourite pothole that you’re tired of dodging?

Aurelius said :

“some bizarre ALP social experiment”

What’s that mean?

It means he couldn’t come with a credible line to denigrate the ALP, so he put in something that sounded nice and scary. I call FUD.

L

Dirty footpaths are apparently part of the “ALP social experiment” I presume?
Seems like Norvan and his team are on another planet.

I think they are making a vague suggestion that society should be allowed to operate without heavy handed Government intervention while not actually pledging that they won’t/not actually outlining which programs are legitimate and which are illegitimate.

Speaking of rumours, someone must have something juicy about ACT politics?

Norvan.Vogt said :

… the footpaths are dirty and our services have not working.

Services have not been working?
Services are not working?
Services playing, not working?

I’m stumped …

L

I looked for clarification on Norvan’s party’s website, and was dismayed at it. It’s all babble. Nothing of substance at all.

It probably belongs on the rumour thread.

; )

Aurelius said :

“some bizarre ALP social experiment”

What’s that mean?

we are all guinea pigs…

“some bizarre ALP social experiment”

What’s that mean?

I can guarantee each of you that the Community Alliance is committed to strong stable ACT government

I don’t think anyone doubts that.

I can however see CAP and Libs sharing a percentage of the votes and fighting it out whilst Stanhope simply strolls over the line again.

And frankly, I don’t think I’ve been that critical of CAP at any time.

Aurelius said :

Even with this Parton fella, I still think the Stefaniak departure’s sunk the Liberal chances in Ginninderra, and therefore across the Territory. Surely Big Bill knew this, so he musta been pretty browned with Zed’s mob to have walked when he did.

I still maintain that even with Big Bill gone, I just cannot see the Liberals not being able to reach 2 quotas. Let’s be honest it’s 33.3% of first preferences and let’s not forget that quota will drop as votes start to exhaust.

Then again I’m very heavily invested in the Libs getting 2 what with my ‘I’ll literally eat my hat’ pledge.

Norvan.Vogt said :

Thumper, and the rest of the Riot crew

I can guarantee each of you that the Community Alliance is committed to [b]strong[/b] stable ACT government,

Hmm, a worrying choice of words.

With this support they might actually be a challenge to the Greens for the minority vote.

peterh said :

jakez said :

peterh said :

always wondered what the party who didn’t want local government would do if they got in??

revert to anarchy?

All things considered, Somalia is doing quite well in what amounts to an anarchic society.

I was thinking more about the 10 billion dollar note out of zimbabwe. now there is an economy crash…

Well Sex Pistols aside, that’s the problem with the word anarchy. Zimbabwe is in chaos because of a brutal and incompetent Government inflating the money supply.

NOT THAT I’M AN ANARCHIST!!!

Thumper, and the rest of the Riot crew

I can guarantee each of you that the Community Alliance is committed to strong stable ACT government, not in slinging cheap shots from the side lines or holding the government to ransom. When in office each of us will do our best to promote stability and good governance.

Also, by the end of the week we have 31 policies up on our website; we have been working hard to have these developed before Sept 12. More detail on each of these polices will unveiled at our various policy launches during the Campaign proper (Sept 12 – Oct 18).

It is not local government (such as in the NSW guise) that we are after, but a hybrid between a state government and a local council. In the past 4 years the upkeep of our city has been sacrificed for some bizarre ALP social experiment and it has to stop. The roads have potholes everywhere, the footpaths are dirty and our services have not working. Canberra is the National Capital of Australia and should look like it, I love Canberra and I want to get the basics right.

Cheers

Norvan Vogt
Lead candidate for Molonglo
Community Alliance Party

Even with this Parton fella, I still think the Stefaniak departure’s sunk the Liberal chances in Ginninderra, and therefore across the Territory. Surely Big Bill knew this, so he musta been pretty browned with Zed’s mob to have walked when he did.

Primal said :

peterh said :

always wondered what the party who didn’t want local government would do if they got in??

revert to anarchy?

Surrender to Queanbeyan?

that’d fix the extradition probs from nsw to act & vice versa…

peterh said :

always wondered what the party who didn’t want local government would do if they got in??

revert to anarchy?

Surrender to Queanbeyan?

er, the “no self gov’t party” and “abolish self gov’t party” did get candidates in, from memory. Craig Duby, author of the DubyDome, was one of them. I think Stephenson was another?

jakez said :

peterh said :

always wondered what the party who didn’t want local government would do if they got in??

revert to anarchy?

All things considered, Somalia is doing quite well in what amounts to an anarchic society.

I was thinking more about the 10 billion dollar note out of zimbabwe. now there is an economy crash…

peterh said :

always wondered what the party who didn’t want local government would do if they got in??

revert to anarchy?

All things considered, Somalia is doing quite well in what amounts to an anarchic society.

always wondered what the party who didn’t want local government would do if they got in??

revert to anarchy?

I hope these minority candidates, if elected, just use a little common sense when it comes to policies and direction rather than being surrounded by ‘advisers’ and ‘consultants’ and losing touch with reality like most of the present incumbents.

Thumper said :

Things are almost going back to the early, very silly days of self government.

so where is the party party or the we don’t want local government party?

Things are almost going back to the early, very silly days of self government.

Sure sucks to be in the Liberal Party right now.

Just makes you want to ask, what is in it for the Canberra Business Community? He is quoted in the Canberra Times as saying wants to be the voice of reason – what for the people of Canberra or for business issues?

what are mark’s policies?

is he able to use simcity at all?

he would be voted for in tuggeralong, my bogan mates and i were religious listeners. We now listen to 2CA…