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Canberra’s A-league bid officially ends

By Holden Caulfield 25 May 2012 27

Ivan Slavich has just sent out a lengthy tome detailing the demise of Canberra’s official bid for an A-league team. It reads in part:

Dear foundation member,

It is with much sadness and regret that I write to inform you that our quest for an A League team for Canberra is over. I would like to thank the many people that helped us on our journey and I am still totally perplexed that despite our credentials, we have been repeatedly denied entry into the A League competition.

He then goes on to thank the many people involved before adding:

We were overlooked when the comp expanded from 8 to 12 a couple of years ago and those chosen have not fired up other than Melbourne Heart. Townsville is gone, Gold Coast is gone and West Sydney did not get up. The recent eviction of the Gold Coast created another opportunity and despite Ben Buckley the CEO of the FFA admitting to me that our bid was more advanced than West Sydney, the FFA have gone with West Sydney for strategic regions because of the larger population base, pouring in $4m of FFA money and supported by $8m of federal government money.

For the record, I had tried previously to obtain a grant from the federal government given that we are the Nation’s capital, but was advised that they do not support individual teams, so the West Sydney deal is somewhat surprising, although I note the support is for football in general.

Okay, so what about the $200 that over 2000 individuals have coughed up?

Given that the FFA has overlooked Canberra and in accordance with the terms of the trust deed, the trustees have determined to refund your money. It is my intention to run a couple of sessions at the Hellenic Club Woden on a Saturday between 10am and 1pm, whereby you will need to produce your certificate of membership and photo identification, either a licence or passport, where upon you will receive a cheque for your refund. I will provide further notice as to the exact days that we will be conducting these sessions and will endeavour to advertise on radio and in the press. Other arrangements will be made for people interstate or who cannot travel.

You will have two options;-

– Receive a full refund of the money you deposited; or
– Elect to have the money you invested in our bid to further promote elite men’s football in the ACT. Please reply to this email stating that you agree to this if you elect this option.

Hmm, I seem to recall it was quite a bit easier to send in the $200 than it appears it will be to get it back.

For what it’s worth I’m disappointed we couldn’t land an A-league team in Canberra. I’m not certain it would have been an outstanding success, but would have liked our city to have been given a fair go.

What’s Your opinion?


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MrsMarple 9:31 pm 24 Jun 12

Any idea when we might be getting our money back from Mr Slavich? When is this supposed Hellenic Club session? Does anyone know the details?

Anna Key 9:37 pm 29 May 12

Battlecat said :

Duffbowl said :

Can I ask where you get your figures from?

The latest ABS ERASS has football at 843,000 total participants, not including indoor. Seeing as that doesn’t include the juniors I’m pretty confident with my claim. The FFA claims 1.7 million, but they’re admittedly hardly neutral.

As all footballers are required to register with the FFA, their stats should be good. Of course, what they publicly release may be selective

frankie 7:59 pm 29 May 12

We can still nurture a good football culture in Canberra. Just because the A-League has passed us by does not mean we should give up! We have plenty of great players in Canberra, and we can make the football community even stronger here by supporting local matches.

Duffbowl 7:54 am 28 May 12

Battlecat said :

The latest ABS ERASS has football at 843,000 total participants, not including indoor. Seeing as that doesn’t include the juniors I’m pretty confident with my claim. The FFA claims 1.7 million, but they’re admittedly hardly neutral.

The ERASS was conducted by Newspoll in 2010 on behalf of the Australian Sports Commission and their state / territory counterparts. The survey was conducted by aggregating results from four quarterly surveys, with 21603 persons aged 15 or older across Australia, with selection pools per state / territory set as per their share of the Australian population. However, Victoria and Queensland boosted their numbers by buying an increased share of the activity. Completed data represented 23.1% of those surveyed. Numbers are below, representing Organised (Physical activity for exercise, recreation or sport that was organised in full or in part by (1) a ?tness, leisure or indoor sports centre that required payment for participation, (2) a sport or recreation club or association that required payment of membership, fees or registration, (3) a workplace, (4) a school, or (5) any other type of organisation), Non-organised (Physical activity for exercise, recreation or sport that was non-organised in full or in part (that is, not fully organised by a club, association or other type of organisation)), and Total (Persons who participated in at least one physical activity for exercise, recreation or sport at least once in the last 12 months).

Sport Organised Non-organised Total
Australian rules football 447300 182500 577700
Baseball 25400 9700 31800
Basketball 403500 267800 609600
Cricket (indoor) 80700 41300 118900
Cricket (outdoor) 372100 202600 563100
Hockey (indoor) 16900 11100 25800
Hockey (outdoor) 157300 8100 160800
Netball 537600 166600 649500
Rugby league 178700 80000 238100
Rugby union 118500 25700 135700
Football (indoor) 222900 133900 333100
Football (outdoor) 593800 324500 843900
Softball 50700 10300 53700
Touch Football 398800 124000 487800
Volleyball 146600 70100 202100
Water polo 13500 5600 18500

(Sorry, it looks ugly)

The ERASS does note that:

ERASS is not comparable with data collected through other surveys of participation in physical activity. In particular, the data cannot be directly compared with participation surveys conducted by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (for example, Population Survey Monitor and Multi-Purpose Household Survey) and by Sweeney Sports (Sweeney Research). This is due to differences in the scope, methodology and questionnaire design of the various surveys.

Battlecat 10:55 pm 27 May 12

Duffbowl said :

Can I ask where you get your figures from?

The latest ABS ERASS has football at 843,000 total participants, not including indoor. Seeing as that doesn’t include the juniors I’m pretty confident with my claim. The FFA claims 1.7 million, but they’re admittedly hardly neutral.

Anna Key 10:03 pm 27 May 12

Battlecat said :

Why does every post about football end up with bogans complaining about it’s name?

-It’s called football, get over it.
-If nobody liked it then it wouldn’t be the biggest participation sport in the country (adults as well as children)
-What nobody cares about is whether you like it or not, go post on the Raiders thread.

+1 Yep it’s the rest of the world that is out of step with Australia. Surely they should know that football clearly means Aussie Rules, or maybe League, or maybe Union, or maybe Gaelic…

Duffbowl 9:56 pm 27 May 12

Battlecat said :

If nobody liked it then it wouldn’t be the biggest participation sport in the country (adults as well as children)

Can I ask where you get your figures from?
The ABS publishes a document, which is creatively called “4177.0 – Participation in Sport and Physical Recreation, Australia”, with the latest available version being from 2009-2010. Unfortunately, the ABS only considers Australians aged 15 or older when compiling their figures.

Reviewing their figures for team sports, and combining both male and female participants:
Netball 445800
Soccer (outdoor) 401000
Basketball 332600
Touch football 269200
Cricket (outdoor) 253600
Soccer (indoor) 242800
Australian Rules football 240500
Rugby league 114800
Hockey 98800
Rugby union 96900
Cricket (indoor) 87600
Volleyball 76900
Beach volleyball 44800
Softball/tee ball 39400
Baseball 31300

http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/ausstats/subscriber.nsf/0/FA6CA5B178E7C76BCA2577FF0011ED3F/$File/41770_2009-10.pdf

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