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Capital Metro consultation heads to Gunghalin

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Capital Metro Agency staff will be in the Gungahlin Village Shopping Centre, near the Coles supermarket, today (19 July) to further discuss the proposed design for light rail in Canberra.

Minister for Capital Metro, Simon Corbell, who will be in attendance during the morning, urged Canberrans to visit the team at Gungahlin and to find out more information and to have their say on the proposals for light rail.

“There will be information for you to comment on, learn about, and ask questions of our agency staff,” Mr Corbell said.

“As this is an early design, no decisions have been made on the final product, so this is the most opportune time to influence the end design.”

The design proposal has been based on in-depth planning and builds on previous community feedback.

“The feedback provided during this consultation will feed into next stages of design, which will provide the basis for expressions of interest later this year.

“It is vital the community take the opportunity to provide their feedback on how they would like the system to look and operate.

“Light Rail will deliver so much more than a transport benefit for Canberra and this is why the government has been so intent on planning for Canberra’s future. We are committed to delivering city-changing infrastructure and look forward to hearing what the community have to say about these great designs.”

Capital Metro will be at the Gungahlin Village Shopping Centre, near Coles, today from 9.30am to 1.30pm.

(Simon Corbell Media Release)


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dungfungus 7:29 pm 31 Jul 14

Me2 said :

dungfungus said :

fair go ned said :

I predict two things:
1. Labor to postpone the light rail
There has been zero interest from private industry to bank roll the project so Labor will postpone the construction, spin the line that the project needs to be part of the mythical city to lake project and they will try get funding for both in next decade or so.

2. Corbell retires
Corbell did everything he could to lose the last election and he only won his seat off the back of stronger and better performing labor candidates. It’s not a coincidence he has been given light rail to sell to the community. he will be faced with retiring or losing his seat.

Hidden on the left hand side of page 2 in the Canberra Times this morning is a misleading headline “Barr rejects grim report on future of major work”.
It’s all very predictable stuff until a paragraph begins:
” The Capital Metro light rail project may provide some support to engineering construction beyond 2016.
However, the $600 million investment is only a possibility at this stage , with some uncertainty over its cost”.

This is the first indication that The ACT Labor minority government is going to bail from the project and it is more significant as it is Andrew Barr making the statement.

I would have thought the CT would have made this a front page headline and they would be all over Corbell and Rattenbury for comment.

Over to you Mr Corbell. Time to come clean.

The paragraph in the article labelling Capital Metro as a ‘possibility’ is quoting the Investment Monitor report, not Andrew Barr

It’s difficult to work out who said what actually. Fairfax Media now outsources its sub editing offshore. In the final paragraph Andrew Barr appears to confirm the doubt about the Capital Metro project not going ahead by merely stating the project “is in the pipeline”.
I haven’t seen any media releases clarifying this.

davo101 1:15 pm 31 Jul 14

Me2 said :

The paragraph in the article labelling Capital Metro as a ‘possibility’ is quoting the Investment Monitor report, not Andrew Barr

Good point. Obviously my brain’s not up to parsing that many quotes at once. So they were just paraphrasing the Chief Minister and blaming the weather.

Me2 11:50 am 31 Jul 14

dungfungus said :

fair go ned said :

I predict two things:
1. Labor to postpone the light rail
There has been zero interest from private industry to bank roll the project so Labor will postpone the construction, spin the line that the project needs to be part of the mythical city to lake project and they will try get funding for both in next decade or so.

2. Corbell retires
Corbell did everything he could to lose the last election and he only won his seat off the back of stronger and better performing labor candidates. It’s not a coincidence he has been given light rail to sell to the community. he will be faced with retiring or losing his seat.

Hidden on the left hand side of page 2 in the Canberra Times this morning is a misleading headline “Barr rejects grim report on future of major work”.
It’s all very predictable stuff until a paragraph begins:
” The Capital Metro light rail project may provide some support to engineering construction beyond 2016.
However, the $600 million investment is only a possibility at this stage , with some uncertainty over its cost”.

This is the first indication that The ACT Labor minority government is going to bail from the project and it is more significant as it is Andrew Barr making the statement.

I would have thought the CT would have made this a front page headline and they would be all over Corbell and Rattenbury for comment.

Over to you Mr Corbell. Time to come clean.

The paragraph in the article labelling Capital Metro as a ‘possibility’ is quoting the Investment Monitor report, not Andrew Barr

dungfungus 10:40 am 31 Jul 14

davo101 said :

dungfungus said :

This is the first indication that The ACT Labor minority government is going to bail from the project and it is more significant as it is Andrew Barr making the statement.

Sort of, this was on the front page back in June.

The interesting bit in Mr Barr’s comments I thought was the statement that “construction of the Majura Parkway has been delayed due to weather, with final road works to extend into 2016”. Weather? Seriously? The last 12 months would have to have been the most benign weather for construction we’ve had for ages. Perhaps they should give the guys who did the Cotter Dam enlargement and find out what real weather problems look like.

In the June statement by Katy Gallagher she din’t say that the project wouldn’t go ahead – she just capped the costs (line in the sand analogy).
Barr has clearly stated in today’s report that the project is now only a “possibility” which has never been said before.
In fact, according to Corbell and the “ironclad” agreement with The Green, the project has always been a probability Only a few days ago Mr Corbell was talking up an extension from Civic to Russell as being part of the first stage which will obviously add to the cost which has already been capped. The government is in total disarray over the Captal Metro project.
Let’s agree that the government is “building receptivity” for the benefit of all stakeholders to expect the project to be abandonded.
You comments about Barr blaming the weather for delays on the Majura Parkway are spot on. Maybe its completion is deliberately being delayed until 2016 to have the official opening one week before the next election.

davo101 10:14 am 31 Jul 14

dungfungus said :

This is the first indication that The ACT Labor minority government is going to bail from the project and it is more significant as it is Andrew Barr making the statement.

Sort of, this was on the front page back in June.

The interesting bit in Mr Barr’s comments I thought was the statement that “construction of the Majura Parkway has been delayed due to weather, with final road works to extend into 2016”. Weather? Seriously? The last 12 months would have to have been the most benign weather for construction we’ve had for ages. Perhaps they should give the guys who did the Cotter Dam enlargement and find out what real weather problems look like.

dungfungus 7:21 am 31 Jul 14

fair go ned said :

I predict two things:
1. Labor to postpone the light rail
There has been zero interest from private industry to bank roll the project so Labor will postpone the construction, spin the line that the project needs to be part of the mythical city to lake project and they will try get funding for both in next decade or so.

2. Corbell retires
Corbell did everything he could to lose the last election and he only won his seat off the back of stronger and better performing labor candidates. It’s not a coincidence he has been given light rail to sell to the community. he will be faced with retiring or losing his seat.

Hidden on the left hand side of page 2 in the Canberra Times this morning is a misleading headline “Barr rejects grim report on future of major work”.
It’s all very predictable stuff until a paragraph begins:
” The Capital Metro light rail project may provide some support to engineering construction beyond 2016.
However, the $600 million investment is only a possibility at this stage , with some uncertainty over its cost”.

This is the first indication that The ACT Labor minority government is going to bail from the project and it is more significant as it is Andrew Barr making the statement.

I would have thought the CT would have made this a front page headline and they would be all over Corbell and Rattenbury for comment.

Over to you Mr Corbell. Time to come clean.

fair go ned 12:06 am 26 Jul 14

I predict two things:
1. Labor to postpone the light rail
There has been zero interest from private industry to bank roll the project so Labor will postpone the construction, spin the line that the project needs to be part of the mythical city to lake project and they will try get funding for both in next decade or so.

2. Corbell retires
Corbell did everything he could to lose the last election and he only won his seat off the back of stronger and better performing labor candidates. It’s not a coincidence he has been given light rail to sell to the community. he will be faced with retiring or losing his seat.

gooterz 9:22 pm 25 Jul 14

dungfungus said :

HiddenDragon said :

rommeldog56 said :

gooterz said :

A better question would be how many MLA’s are going to commit to using light rail. If none of them are we should abandon it.

How many Gov’t MLAs would live within the 800 metres of the tram track anyway ?

I assume all MLAs get taxpayers funded cars + free (or low cost) parking ?

Apart from a few initial publicity shots, I would think that Gov’t MLAs would be regular commuters alongside the Ratepayers who will be paying for it. There is going to be a lot more MLAs soonish, so maybe some will.

When that happens, they can do away with the privileged parking spots right outside the Assembly Building and let the MLAs take their chances in the public carparks.

The car spaces in question should be converted into a tram stop. That would be a true test of Labor’s commitment to the project.

Or just move the assembly out to gunners

dungfungus 8:58 pm 25 Jul 14

HiddenDragon said :

rommeldog56 said :

gooterz said :

A better question would be how many MLA’s are going to commit to using light rail. If none of them are we should abandon it.

How many Gov’t MLAs would live within the 800 metres of the tram track anyway ?

I assume all MLAs get taxpayers funded cars + free (or low cost) parking ?

Apart from a few initial publicity shots, I would think that Gov’t MLAs would be regular commuters alongside the Ratepayers who will be paying for it. There is going to be a lot more MLAs soonish, so maybe some will.

When that happens, they can do away with the privileged parking spots right outside the Assembly Building and let the MLAs take their chances in the public carparks.

The car spaces in question should be converted into a tram stop. That would be a true test of Labor’s commitment to the project.

dungfungus 8:55 pm 25 Jul 14

davo101 said :

CapMetroACT said :

Capital Metro’s aim is to start construction by mid 2016….There are no guarantees if there is a change of government.

I’m pretty sure everyone is aware of the concept of the poison pill. Once those contracts are signed there’s no going back.

What about going sideways?
We are talking about “government guarantees”. The alliteration here is the only real thing; the rest is phony as a $3 note.
The commencement timing is a few months before the next election by which time Capital Metro will have spent about $100 million. The Labor ninority governmentt will be happy to write this off and cancel the whole project (defer will be the word used) if there is a whiff of electoral defeat from voters opposed to the light rail in the northern electorates (all the other electorates not include in the light rail will be lost by Labor).
Labor will no doubt have an escape clause in the contracts as well.
Personally, I think the whole project will be dumped sooner rather than later. Many things can happen such as an unexpected legal problem, a key minister resigning/retiring or the Liberals putting up a better proposal which is more practical, cheaper and inclusive for more Canberrans. This would force The Green to sit up and take notice if he wants to be around after the next election.

HiddenDragon 5:56 pm 25 Jul 14

rommeldog56 said :

gooterz said :

A better question would be how many MLA’s are going to commit to using light rail. If none of them are we should abandon it.

How many Gov’t MLAs would live within the 800 metres of the tram track anyway ?

I assume all MLAs get taxpayers funded cars + free (or low cost) parking ?

Apart from a few initial publicity shots, I would think that Gov’t MLAs would be regular commuters alongside the Ratepayers who will be paying for it. There is going to be a lot more MLAs soonish, so maybe some will.

When that happens, they can do away with the privileged parking spots right outside the Assembly Building and let the MLAs take their chances in the public carparks.

davo101 3:29 pm 25 Jul 14

CapMetroACT said :

Capital Metro’s aim is to start construction by mid 2016….There are no guarantees if there is a change of government.

I’m pretty sure everyone is aware of the concept of the poison pill. Once those contracts are signed there’s no going back.

CapMetroACT 11:56 am 25 Jul 14

bigfeet said :

bundah said :

It is now perfectly clear to me that Corbell is determined for light rail to become a reality which will become his legacy for Canberra as he nears retirement from the assembly.

This was the response Capital Metro gave at the May Gunghalin Community Council meeting of 14 May.

Q: What guarantees do we have for the project to continue if there is a change in the government?
A: Current government wants to have project underway before the next election to avoid it being cut.

source: http://www.gcc.asn.au/meeting-minutes/public-meeting-14-may-2014

Its obvious that any ‘consultation’ taking place is purely cosmetic. Canberra is getting this white elephant whether we want or need it. No matter what anyone says.

Unfortunately there was an error in compiling of the minutes from this meeting and Gungahlin Community Council is in the process of amending these.

For the record, the response to the question as delivered by Emma Thomas, Project Director was that Capital Metro’s aim is to start construction by mid 2016. Our aim is to do this in a way that delivers a lot of value for the community. There are no guarantees if there is a change of government.

rommeldog56 10:06 pm 22 Jul 14

gooterz said :

A better question would be how many MLA’s are going to commit to using light rail. If none of them are we should abandon it.

How many Gov’t MLAs would live within the 800 metres of the tram track anyway ?

I assume all MLAs get taxpayers funded cars + free (or low cost) parking ?

Apart from a few initial publicity shots, I would think that Gov’t MLAs would be regular commuters alongside the Ratepayers who will be paying for it. There is going to be a lot more MLAs soonish, so maybe some will.

gooterz 6:12 pm 22 Jul 14

A better question would be how many MLA’s are going to commit to using light rail. If none of them are we should abandon it.

rosscoact 2:33 pm 22 Jul 14

Ian said :

JessP said :

How about some consultation at Woden, Tuggeranong or Belconnen?

We are paying for this white elephant as well or doesnt what we think count?

Can’t have that. People not directly benefitting from the tram might have inconveniently negative opinions.

Well why don’t you take some public transport and get yourself to the consultation?

dungfungus 12:54 pm 22 Jul 14

Ian said :

JessP said :

How about some consultation at Woden, Tuggeranong or Belconnen?

We are paying for this white elephant as well or doesnt what we think count?

Can’t have that. People not directly benefitting from the tram might have inconveniently negative opinions.

This is the same situation that applied when ActewAGL introduced TransACT which was essentially a “me too, pet product” just like the light rail is.
The only Canberran’s who could get a service from TransACT were those with power poles in their backyards. All the newer suburbs with underground power missed out but they still had to share the cost of ActewAGL’s investment in the joint venture (and then the $50 million plus loss that was the outcome).
Ironic that once again, poles (ugly ones at that) will be needed to hang the tram wires and the only suburbs to get the tram service will be the ones “where the poles are”.

Ian 11:53 am 22 Jul 14

JessP said :

How about some consultation at Woden, Tuggeranong or Belconnen?

We are paying for this white elephant as well or doesnt what we think count?

Can’t have that. People not directly benefitting from the tram might have inconveniently negative opinions.

rommeldog56 11:13 am 22 Jul 14

JessP said :

How about some consultation at Woden, Tuggeranong or Belconnen?

We are paying for this white elephant as well or doesn’t what we think count?

Yep – in Tuggers, we have been patiently waiting for the duplication of the rest of Erindale Drive and Ashley Drive. I’m not sure when or if thats on the Capital Works program.

So, given that, how long do u think it will take to get the toy train set to Tuggeranong ??? It beggers belief.

JessP 10:10 am 22 Jul 14

How about some consultation at Woden, Tuggeranong or Belconnen? We are paying for this white elephant as well or doesnt what we think count?

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