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CCTV bandaid for failed waste policies

By johnboy 21 July 2010 31

Chief Minister Stanhope is unwittingly identifying another abject policy failure. This time announcing “Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) cameras at 24-hour recycling centres in an effort to curb illegal dumping and the associated clean-up costs”.

The ACT Government manages six drop-off recycling centres which collectively accept over 3700 tonnes of recyclables each year.

However some Canberrans are using the centres illegally to dump items such as cooking oil, clothing, furniture, computers, TVs and whitegoods.

Mr Stanhope said the cameras would help to reduce the incidence of dumping and identify offenders.

“Cameras are being installed at known hot spots at recycling centres to discourage illegal dumping,” Mr Stanhope said. “The cameras will help to deter people from illegal dumping and identify offenders so fines can be issued.

Now if we had waste disposal policies to benefit the community and not to serve whatever false economy environmentalism that drifted through the Chiefly mind in years gone by people wouldn’t be driven to dumping.

But where would the fun be in that?

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cranky 2:49 pm 03 Feb 11

#28

From the ACT Gov website.

‘The burning of garden or other waste in urban areas is banned. This includes burning waste in a backyard incinerator. On the spot fines can be imposed for breaches of this Act.’

It’s hard to bury packing cases.

p1 2:27 pm 03 Feb 11

Ooohhh, nice thread resurrection.

cranky said :

Wood is NOT recyclable. And you are not allowed to burn it.

Sure you can. Burning off in a suburban backyard might not be legal, but a cook or heating fire is perfectly legal (unless there is a fire ban).

At the end of last winter I burnt a HUGE pile of material from my yard – for heating or cooking purposes.

freakwent 12:46 pm 03 Feb 11

dvaey said :

If you have enough e-recycling to need more than a couple of drop-offs per year, youre buying and disposing of too much electronics. For monitors, try dropping them at charity bins or stores. Or as others have suggested, leave it on your nature-strip with a ‘Free’ or ‘$5’ sign on it and itll disappear in under an hour.

And if you are a computer trader, how much is ‘too much’? Also the word is out that CRTs cost money to dump, so people often won’t accept them for free, even good big ones working in fine condition.

freakwent 12:43 pm 03 Feb 11

cranky said :

Wood is NOT recyclable. And you are not allowed to burn it.

Of course it is, it rots, either bury it or make something with it with a saw and a hammer and nails.

Of course you are, if it’s not arsenic treated. Why do you think you aren’t?

You can stick a sign on it, ‘free firewood’ and watch it vanish, or you can make a fire and cook damper. No problem.

dvaey 3:43 am 23 Jul 10

smee said :

dvaey said :

Computers can goto charity computers or e-recycling days

E-Recycling days are rare, and Charity Computers only take working computers, and will charge a fee if its not working. The tip charges $22.50 per monitor working or not.

If you have enough e-recycling to need more than a couple of drop-offs per year, youre buying and disposing of too much electronics. For monitors, try dropping them at charity bins or stores. Or as others have suggested, leave it on your nature-strip with a ‘Free’ or ‘$5’ sign on it and itll disappear in under an hour.

cranky said :

Wood is NOT recyclable. And you are not allowed to burn it.

As a frequent camper, who isnt allowed to collect wood from the national park while camping, let me tell you how good scrap timber is for campfires. Especially if youve got a few fence pailings or some nice hardwood. Im sure if youve got decent amounts of timber, you could contact places such as tadact who build aids for the disabled and offer them some materials.

We rarely fill our rubbish bins, yet often find our recycling bins are full only a few days after being collected, often with more left in the kitchen recycling bin that simply wont fit. This is after weve done a weekly trip to the recycling depot with cardboard and cans/bottles too. Its not hard to recycle a lot of what you use, you just have to think outside the box sometimes.

cranky 8:58 pm 22 Jul 10

Wood is NOT recyclable. And you are not allowed to burn it.

Every splinter of it a dollar in Sonics pocket.

smee 7:38 pm 22 Jul 10

dvaey said :

Computers can goto charity computers or e-recycling days

E-Recycling days are rare, and Charity Computers only take working computers, and will charge a fee if its not working. The tip charges $22.50 per monitor working or not.

We already pay fees to the ACT government twice over for this stuff, once through GST when purchased and once through our rates which is supposed to include waste disposal. Now they are triple dipping knowing there is heaps of this stuff out there and we have no viable alternatives to dispose of it.

Why is it that company that does the E-Recycling days can make a profit, including hiring and moving large shipping containers, without charging us for disposal and the ACT government has to bill us for it?

More money grabbing ripoffs from dysfunctional and incompetent politicians (that includes all parties).

dvaey 1:08 pm 22 Jul 10

54-11 said :

JC, you’re right, there are facilities. Note that I said above “proper” – what is available is expensive, inconvenient and does not suit a lot of people. You just need to read the comments above to see that.

And it’s not just that poeple don’t want to pay the cost, it’s much more than that.

Im not sure what costs are involved, but all of the options I mentioned, are free. (Other than the phone call to salvos/ezy-scrap). Sure, there might be some items which arent properly recyclable, but honestly from our household we have very little which actually goes to landfill, as almost everything can be re-used or re-claimed somehow.

sepi said :

this is just going to result in more piles of old computer monitors littering the reserves around town.

Why don’t they spend the money the cameras will cost on hiring a few skips to leave at the recycling depot.

Firstly, why are people dumping monitors at the recycling centre? The problem with leaving free skips out, is that I imagine commercial users would start using them. Builders pulling down a kitchen for example, would much rather throw everything in a skip, rather than sort it out into scrap metal, wood and other re-usable building materials.

sepi said :

AND – my big whinge – why is there not a Trashpak service in Canberra that collects green garden waste only, and disposes of it to the Free drop off points. Instead trash pack contents go straight to landfill at the tip, even tho surely most of it is garden waste.

Are you sure about this? Does greenwaste not go to Corkhill Bros at the tip and get turned into mulch and compost? Also, how is it good for the environment (and the budget), to have a vehicle driving around picking up garden waste to take it to the ‘Free’ drop-off points? Why not make individuals do it, on those rare occasions that they have to do it. Unless you live on a rural property, youre not going to have enough green-waste on a regular basis, to use a disposal system such as this.

georgesgenitals 10:53 am 22 Jul 10

It’s pretty sad that the ACT govt spends time and resourcing grandstanding on bullshit issues that a lot of people don’t care about when basic services aren’t sorted.

sepi 10:41 am 22 Jul 10

this is just going to result in more piles of old computer monitors littering the reserves around town.

Why don’t they spend the money the cameras will cost on hiring a few skips to leave at the recycling depot.

AND – my big whinge – why is there not a Trashpak service in Canberra that collects green garden waste only, and disposes of it to the Free drop off points. Instead trash pack contents go straight to landfill at the tip, even tho surely most of it is garden waste.

Choice mag even had a go at the lack of waste services in teh ACT in teh last issue. they are comparing the sustainability of 3 households, and the Canberra family is stymied by lack of waste facilities compared to the other two states that are featured.

54-11 10:03 am 22 Jul 10

JC, you’re right, there are facilities. Note that I said above “proper” – what is available is expensive, inconvenient and does not suit a lot of people. You just need to read the comments above to see that.

And it’s not just that poeple don’t want to pay the cost, it’s much more than that.

What’s needed is a proper waste management strategy for material other than the current rubbish/recycling service.

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