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Civic jaywalkers

By facet - 27 May 2011 87

the jaywalkers of civic

Car drivers and bike riders cop a lot of flak when it comes to road accidents but civic pedestrians seem to have a death wish when they illegally cross the road (corner of Northbourne Ave and London Crt.).

The next corner at Alinga St and Northbourne is even worse.

Has anyone tried to enforce Jay Walking laws (presuming the ACT has these?).

What’s Your opinion?


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Civic jaywalkers
Queen_of_the_Bun 11:36 am 27 May 11

The worst I’ve seen was a young couple, him carrying a toddler, her pushing a stroller, who crossed Northbourne right on the curve at the law courts. Cars actually had to stop for them. Fair enough to risk your own life but your kids?

Having said that, I’m a big fan of pedestrians who cross safely without pushing the button when there’s no oncoming traffic. Not a big fan (and I try not to do it myself) of people who push the button then cross anyway, meaning that by the times the lights change there’s no-one waiting to cross the road. Main offenders are at the Manuka Oval crossing on Canberra Av and the Narrabundah College/St Benny’s crossing on Jerrabomberra Av.

Spideydog 11:24 am 27 May 11

Rollersk8r said :

The answer is yes, jay walking fines exist and I’ve seen police issue them, although it doesn’t happen often. A few years ago someone got hit by a car on Northbourne and I could see the police handing out fines from my office window (for an hour so after the accident).

LOL and didn’t that cause a uproar, the usual cries of “haven’t they got anything else better to do” and the other chestnut “go after some real criminals”.

What I especially hate is the pedestrians that pause at the lights, press the button 40 trillion times, then walk anyways, to just have traffic stop for no pedestrians when the little green man shows up ……..

Erg0 11:22 am 27 May 11

sepi said :

The problem is the ridiculous amount of time it takes to cross northbourne with the lights.

Unless you walk super fast, and start right at the start of the green light you cna’t get across in one set of green lights and have to stand around in the middle for ages. It seems like 10 minutes to get across there.

Walk super fast, then – that’s what I used to do when I crossed Northbourne every morning. Sometimes I even employed a light jog if I wasn’t waiting when the lights changed.

I have no particular problem with people crossing against the lights when the road is actually clear, but if you’re darting across in the face of 60 km/h oncoming traffic then you’re just being impatient.

Rollersk8r 11:15 am 27 May 11

The answer is yes, jay walking fines exist and I’ve seen police issue them, although it doesn’t happen often. A few years ago someone got hit by a car on Northbourne and I could see the police handing out fines from my office window (for an hour so after the accident).

diehiphopdie 11:12 am 27 May 11

I’m a regular ‘jaywalker’. I don’t believe that I should be holding up traffic to cross the road because I’m waiting for a little light to say what I can or can not do. A car will hurt me. A car will kill me. That’s why I cross the road according to what traffic is on it’s way. Not because the green light says I’m allowed to cross.

I cross the exact intersection pictured above many times a week and I rarely wait for the lights. At any intersection I always look first though at all corners and carefully consider my options with regards to the traffic and how the lights are set up. I make sure that A. I’m not going to get hit and B. No one has to alter their speed or lane choice because of me.

What peaves me off is some of the halfwits that follow me, 10 seconds later but without checking for cars themselves. I constantly see cars having to break for them. If they’d like to commit suicide then that’s up to them but I don’t think some poor bugger in a car should have to spend every Thursday afternoon for the rest of their lives seeing a shrink in order to deal with the fact they’ve killed someone.

Unfortunately there’s quite a lot of stupid people out there. Just like the girl I heard behind me one day telling her friend “they wont hit us”. I really wanted to turn around and tell her how stupid she was and that she was crossing a busy road where the cars currently had the right of way. There’s far more obstacles for the driver than just having to look out for idiots like her.

Two more things that annoy the hell out of me are:
A. as a driver, I hate it when I have to stop at the lights because a road crossing pedestrian has pressed the button when the traffic other than me is non existant and:

B. as a pedestrian when agro tossers speed up to scare people crossing the road who would otherwise have had plenty of time to safely do so without interrupting the car.

That’s my 2 cents.

sepi 11:03 am 27 May 11

The problem is the ridiculous amount of time it takes to cross northbourne with the lights.

Unless you walk super fast, and start right at the start of the green light you cna’t get across in one set of green lights and have to stand around in the middle for ages. It seems like 10 minutes to get across there.

thatsnotme 11:02 am 27 May 11

I walk into the City this way almost every day, and I’ve seen a stack of people almost cleaned up at those intersections. A lot of the time, you’ll see people cross against the signal, with plenty of time to get across safely, but then someone who’s not really paying any attention seems to think that means they can go too, and set out to cross without really looking.

Some of the worst are what I assume are international students from the ANU. I’ve seen so many groups strolling across those intersections, completely oblivious to the fact there’s cars heading straight for them. As for policing though…I once saw two girls cross there, actually forcing a police van to stop as they strolled straight in front of it – and the police did absolutely nothing.

Watson 11:00 am 27 May 11

It does somewhat annoy me when I’m driving through there, though usually taking the foot of the accelarator for a couple of seconds is enough to avoid them.

But when I’m a pedestrian walking through Civic, I actually find it really exciting that everyone ignores the rules. It’s so un-Canberran! It reminds me of exciting/chaotic overseas places.

p1 10:47 am 27 May 11

Is that the charge for walking while smoking a joint?

Erg0 10:25 am 27 May 11

They used to do a blitz on jaywalking every so often in Perth, giving out fines at a couple of the more busy intersections in the city for a few days in a row. Once it got in the paper and on the news (disgruntled lawbreaker: “don’t the police have better things to do?”, etc) there was a noticeable decrease in the number of people crossing against the lights. Having a couple of cops issuing fines along that road for a day or two would easily pay for itself.

Failing that, I propose a camera-based solution.

KeenGolfer 10:05 am 27 May 11

There are a number of traffic infringement fines for pedestrians crossing when the walk signal is red, crossing ino the path of a vehicle etc. They’re all a $67 fine.

gospeedygo 9:51 am 27 May 11

People don’t like to wait it seems. Even in the main street of Gungahlin where there is a pedestrian crossing, I still see people jaywalking particularly around the bus stops.

grundy 9:51 am 27 May 11

I’ve got a Jay Walking fine in NSW before. (Crossing the road while the man was green, but I was about 3 meters outside the walking area, the cop was being a prick…. and we may have been laughing at the same cop giving another friend a ticket for no helmet while riding… about 11 years ago now)

I’m the only person I know to ever get a fine for crossing the road. 🙁

I got a ‘warning’ for Jay Walking once in the ACT, but never seen or heard of it being enforced here.

pptvb 9:50 am 27 May 11

I saw a funny thing a few weeks ago.
I was waiting at the crossing on Marcus-Clarke St, near the IGA, when a bloke walked across the crossing, against the signal.
The police officer waiting next to me made (told) him to go back & wait for the little green man signal.
This bloke was not happy, as he was 3/4 of the way across, but complied.
Just as he got back, the lights changed! I laughed & the cop was smiling about it.
So I guess it is enforced occasionally!

The Frots 9:48 am 27 May 11

Not sure about the enforcement of this – but I can say that I have nearly had a few as bonnet ornaments quite a few times. There seems to be some arogance with these people walking in front of cars, knowing in the back of their minds that the cars have to stop (after all, who will win in any court proceedings but the pedestrian!).

More enforcement I say!

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