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Coe mocks Corbell bus surrender

By johnboy - 5 July 2011 21

The Liberals’ Alistair Coe is making merry with Simon Corbell’s bus agreement.

“Despite all the talk from Mr Corbell’s predecessor and former Chief Minister Jon Stanhope, there is little progress on improving the efficiency of ACTION and taxpayers will continue to subsidise the network by almost $90 million every year,” Mr Coe said.

“Under this ‘new deal’ we will still have a volunteer weekend working roster despite having a seven day bus network.”

“Despite acknowledging that ACTION has problems, Simon Corbell has agreed to the status quo that would appear to deliver very little to improve taxpayer’s return on investment.

“Simon Corbell needs to say what this deal will do to make the network more efficient or whether he has given-up on making the necessary reforms,” Mr Coe concluded.

No mention from Alistair as to what he’d do differently.

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Coe mocks Corbell bus surrender
hax 4:52 pm 06 Jul 11

Maybe we need something new, some innovation. It might turn out to be something that wasn’t invented 100+ years ago, and which takes into account the reality of our city / population / cost etc.. and Canberra could lead the way in new futuristic transport ideas (viable for modern small country towns)

However, I suspect we’ll just get a bigger stick. That’s how we roll.

steveu 4:29 pm 06 Jul 11

Stuff trying to run them at a profit. Make them free. Put a fee on rego if they are serious about encouraging people to use public transport. Make school carparks park and ride so familes can drop their kids off to school and then catch the bus to work from there. Be couragous! While you are at it, let the ANU students finish their Iphone app instead of wasting taxpayers money by doing it yourself. Im sure the students can do it in a cheaper way.

Waiting For Godot 3:49 pm 06 Jul 11

00davist said :

damien haas said :

When anyone asks me how public transport pays for itself, i ask them how their private car that they park for 9 hours a day in a carpark pays for itself.

Well, it may not actually pay for itself, but it certainly means i can get to work, and thus have money!

. . . and I don’t have to worry about my car going on strike, having to allow extra amounts of time due to circuitous routing, risking my safety waiting at Interchanges and having to stand squashed in like sardines having people sneezing and coughing over me.

00davist 2:18 pm 06 Jul 11

damien haas said :

When anyone asks me how public transport pays for itself, i ask them how their private car that they park for 9 hours a day in a carpark pays for itself.

Well, it may not actually pay for itself, but it certainly means i can get to work, and thus have money!

Thumper 1:50 pm 06 Jul 11

When anyone asks me how public transport pays for itself, i ask them how their private car that they park for 9 hours a day in a carpark pays for itself.

It doesn’t, but more to the point, it doesn’t have to.

Gungahlin Al 1:17 pm 06 Jul 11

Bussie said :

@qbngeek, I’d be pretty surprised if any cities in the developed world have profitable public transport systems. But if you can give any actual examples from among your “many, many places around the world” please do so.

They use a funding model where the responsible agency calculates the saving to the community in raod construction/maintenance and builds some of that into the business plan as a “Community Service Obligation”.

It is an approach whereby many government business entities can be and are run in business-like manners either directly or via subcontracting, and without being pawned off to private industry under the economic rationalist mantra that “governments can’t run businesses”.

damien haas 12:54 pm 06 Jul 11

When anyone asks me how public transport pays for itself, i ask them how their private car that they park for 9 hours a day in a carpark pays for itself.

Bussie 11:56 am 06 Jul 11

Jim Jones said :

What public transport does Queanbeyan have?

Paddy wagons is the only one I can think of.

Good jokes aside, Deanes buses provide public transport in Qbn which while private are subsidised by the NSW govt.

Jim Jones 11:44 am 06 Jul 11

What public transport does Queanbeyan have?

Paddy wagons is the only one I can think of.

Watson 11:40 am 06 Jul 11

Bussie said :

@qbngeek, I’d be pretty surprised if any cities in the developed world have profitable public transport systems. But if you can give any actual examples from among your “many, many places around the world” please do so.

+1

Even if many, may exist. There are also many, many who have given up trying to make it profitable and instead are focussing on making it efficient and getting people out of their cars and onto the buses. In some towns in my European country of birth, they actually offer FREE public transport to residents. And I doubt they make that much money of visitors that they’d make a profit of them.

Bussie 10:41 am 06 Jul 11

@qbngeek, I’d be pretty surprised if any cities in the developed world have profitable public transport systems. But if you can give any actual examples from among your “many, many places around the world” please do so.

Jim Jones 9:54 am 06 Jul 11

qbngeek said :

creative_canberran said :

Given he claims to support private enterprise and small government, it would be contrary to want more investment in a bigger government bus network. First chance he gets he’ll sell it off.

While I don’t like the man, I should point out that in many other states and many, many places around the world, privately owned bus companies manage to turn a fair profit. Why is ACTION finding it so difficult to do the same? Like all ACT Government businesses they have become used to using the taxpayers money to line the pockets of a few directors or CEOs and then cry poor. Hands up if you remember Rodium?

The other states and many, many places around the world where privately owned bus companies turn a fair profit are all big cities with centralised population hubs, though, aren’t they?

Complaining that the public transport system of a small town of 350,000 or so isn’t as profitably as those of major metropolises = comparing apples and oranges.

Other cities also manage to sustain giant underground train networks at a fair profit. But for some reason I just can’t see it working in the ‘berra.

qbngeek 9:31 am 06 Jul 11

creative_canberran said :

Given he claims to support private enterprise and small government, it would be contrary to want more investment in a bigger government bus network. First chance he gets he’ll sell it off.

While I don’t like the man, I should point out that in many other states and many, many places around the world, privately owned bus companies manage to turn a fair profit. Why is ACTION finding it so difficult to do the same? Like all ACT Government businesses they have become used to using the taxpayers money to line the pockets of a few directors or CEOs and then cry poor. Hands up if you remember Rodium?

creative_canberran 7:20 pm 05 Jul 11

Coe’s website is so thread bare, it’s a testament to his lack of substance and his dedication to opportunism and rhetoric.
It’s telling that he devotes the grand total of 4 sentences to talking about his electorate, one of them simply listing suburbs. He finds space though for a whole page on himself plus a transcript of his maiden speech which is paragraph after paragraph of biography.

Given he claims to support private enterprise and small government, it would be contrary to want more investment in a bigger government bus network. First chance he gets he’ll sell it off.

zippyzippy 5:41 pm 05 Jul 11

What Alistair would do differently is to gut the public transport system.

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