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Cotter Road Upgrade?

By Col1234 - 28 August 2012 16

Are there any plans to upgrade the Cotter Road now they are building all the new houses out that way? The traffic stretches all the way back to Adelaide Ave in the afternoon and I am guessing it will only get worse.

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Cotter Road Upgrade?
Martlark 8:58 pm 28 Aug 12

What’s really needed is for Belconnen and Tuggeranong town centres to be moved to civic. Then there’d be much less cross traffic driving past each other going to the other far flung centre.

Deref 6:54 pm 28 Aug 12

Keijidosha said :

Sydney (with a population 10 times larger) manages to cope with only two crossings of a 19km long harbour.

Yep – Sydney’s a model we should emulate. On a good day you can get from one kilometre to the next in, oh, only a couple of hours or so.

goggles13 6:00 pm 28 Aug 12

dpm said :

G-Fresh said :

It’s the first stage of the Brindabella Rd upgrade to a superhighway over to Tumut so that we can get to Melbourne quicker.

That would be awesome!! 🙂

+1

but then if Brindabella Road was upgraded, it would be one less road for TAMS to close when a bit of water falls from the sky.

JC 5:52 pm 28 Aug 12

longshanks said :

What we really need is another bridge across the lake to connect Parkes Way to State Circle. That would relieve a huge amount of traffic pressure generated by Belco folk who want to get to the inner south. But that’s not going to happen any time soon. In the meantime, a succession of band-aid solutions make life difficult for everyone, without actually achieving anything in the long term.

The problem getting to places like this is not the crossings over the lake but the roads when you get there. So no bridge will help.

What will help however is getting rid of the two roundabouts on Parkes way, and hopefully what ever it is they are doing with the ramp from Parkes Way onto Commonwealth Ave Bridge.

switch 5:31 pm 28 Aug 12

patrick_keogh said :

You couldn’t make this up.

Nah. That would NEVER happen.

BicycleCanberra 5:29 pm 28 Aug 12

patrick_keogh said :

Yes, an update to the Cotter Road is planned. This is how it will go…

1. The ACT opposition will demand that multiple routes be assessed even though the best is bleeding obvious.
2. This wrangling will tide us over until after the next federal election when the federal libs will weigh in on some “national capital” pretext. This will result in a sub-optimal route being forced on the ACT govt, significantly increasing the cost.
3. Two or more NIMBY local groups will spring up, declaring that the new and wider road will detract from their urban amenity and destroy the pristine environment of a former rubbish dump. They will argue and argue in this court and that for years, with the result that most of the money which was to be spent on the road will go to various legal firms instead.
4. With the budget in tatters, work will commence on a road of half capacity, and it will be a further five years before the originally designed capacity is implemented. To top it all off, the need for doing it on the cheap will result in at least one industrial accident which will even further delay completion.

You couldn’t make this up.

You forgot No. 5:

A cycling lobby group will ask for safer cycle infrastructure other than cycle lanes at a cost that the non cycling community will think is exorbitant and protest that no one will use it once built.

patrick_keogh 5:03 pm 28 Aug 12

Yes, an update to the Cotter Road is planned. This is how it will go…

1. The ACT opposition will demand that multiple routes be assessed even though the best is bleeding obvious.
2. This wrangling will tide us over until after the next federal election when the federal libs will weigh in on some “national capital” pretext. This will result in a sub-optimal route being forced on the ACT govt, significantly increasing the cost.
3. Two or more NIMBY local groups will spring up, declaring that the new and wider road will detract from their urban amenity and destroy the pristine environment of a former rubbish dump. They will argue and argue in this court and that for years, with the result that most of the money which was to be spent on the road will go to various legal firms instead.
4. With the budget in tatters, work will commence on a road of half capacity, and it will be a further five years before the originally designed capacity is implemented. To top it all off, the need for doing it on the cheap will result in at least one industrial accident which will even further delay completion.

You couldn’t make this up.

Aeek 4:43 pm 28 Aug 12

Keijidosha said :

Possibly the last thing Canberra needs is another bridge across the mud puddle that is LBG. Sydney (with a population 10 times larger) manages to cope with only two crossings of a 19km long harbour.

But Sydney has ferries, so we should too ?

dpm 3:43 pm 28 Aug 12

G-Fresh said :

It’s the first stage of the Brindabella Rd upgrade to a superhighway over to Tumut so that we can get to Melbourne quicker.

That would be awesome!! 🙂

G-Fresh 3:10 pm 28 Aug 12

It’s the first stage of the Brindabella Rd upgrade to a superhighway over to Tumut so that we can get to Melbourne quicker.

Solidarity 3:06 pm 28 Aug 12

Keijidosha said :

What Canberra needs is smarter commuters and a more efficient and practical bus service.

Yeah, because that’s totally a viable solution that will happen.

Keijidosha 2:32 pm 28 Aug 12

longshanks said :

What we really need is another bridge across the lake to connect Parkes Way to State Circle. That would relieve a huge amount of traffic pressure generated by Belco folk who want to get to the inner south. But that’s not going to happen any time soon. In the meantime, a succession of band-aid solutions make life difficult for everyone, without actually achieving anything in the long term.

Possibly the last thing Canberra needs is another bridge across the mud puddle that is LBG. Sydney (with a population 10 times larger) manages to cope with only two crossings of a 19km long harbour.

What Canberra needs is smarter commuters and a more efficient and practical bus service.

longshanks 2:12 pm 28 Aug 12

dpm said :

…probably because of the Cottor Road upgrade they’re doing right now near the RSPCA?

These:
http://www.tams.act.gov.au/move/roads/construction_projects/cotter_road_duplication_-_stage_1_works

http://www.nationalcapital.gov.au/attachments/756_1.%20FSP%20RERPORT%20ONLY.pdf

may assist with details re: duplicating the bits near Curtin?

Very informative, except that they put the completion date of Stage One as October 2012, whereas it hasn’t actually started yet.

It’s also worth noting that the roadworks near the RSPCA have minimal impact on afternoon peak hour traffic.

Morning traffic is another story, but even in the morning the real problem is less to do with Weston Creek drivers, and more to do with the flow-on effect of morning traffic on Parkes Way. Why else would you get a long line of cars coming down the Parkway and then back up Cotter Road towards Deakin/Barton/Parkes? Actually, you get two long lines of traffic queuing to get on to Cotter Road, one at the Parkway, and the other at Lady Denman Drive.

What we really need is another bridge across the lake to connect Parkes Way to State Circle. That would relieve a huge amount of traffic pressure generated by Belco folk who want to get to the inner south. But that’s not going to happen any time soon. In the meantime, a succession of band-aid solutions make life difficult for everyone, without actually achieving anything in the long term.

Oh, and by the way, Stage One of the Curtin works includes traffic lights at the intersection of Lady Denman and Cotter Road, replacing the current roundabout. I’d imagine that would exacerbate the traffic backing up to Adelaide Avenue, rather than improve it.

p1 1:40 pm 28 Aug 12

dpm said :

…probably because of the Cottor Road upgrade they’re doing right now near the RSPCA?

What he said.

dpm 1:32 pm 28 Aug 12

…probably because of the Cottor Road upgrade they’re doing right now near the RSPCA?

These:
http://www.tams.act.gov.au/move/roads/construction_projects/cotter_road_duplication_-_stage_1_works

http://www.nationalcapital.gov.au/attachments/756_1.%20FSP%20RERPORT%20ONLY.pdf

may assist with details re: duplicating the bits near Curtin?

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