Do we even care about water restrictions any more?

harvyk1 22 February 2009 67

Over the last few weeks each time I drive past one of the “water target” signs, it appears we are consistently using many more ML than the target.

There was a post [here] a month ago about the high water usage.

So what’s the go guys? Do we no longer care about water savings or do I simply drive past the signs on the wrong days?


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chewy14 chewy14 3:21 pm 26 Feb 09

lujabe,
There is a massive difference between directly recycling water and putting in the dams and using the water from the Murrumbidgee. Lets see if you can work it out.

As for the actual recycling plant, the main problem is control of endocrine disruptors (usually hormones in our water). Even if the plant takes out 99.999%, what happens when a large volume of these pass through the plant at one time?
Not to even mention human error:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24982544-2702,00.html

lujabe lujabe 2:33 pm 26 Feb 09

So it’s pretty clear that Canberrans are jack of water restrictions…

And the one realistic proposal to alleviate the situation – water recycling – has been shot down by various ‘authorities’ and interest groups.

So we’ve wasted a couple of years debating technology that is already proven elsewhere in the world.

And the interim solution was to pump water from the Murrumbidgee River to supplement our thirst. But that Murrumbidgee water contains – wait for it – treated sewage…

A person must only use about 10-20 litres of water per week for drinking/cooking. If you’re squeamish about drinking recycled water, you could just buy your drinking water (as many people already do, anyway).

Let’s just build the water recycling plant already! If we hadn’t stuffed about it’d be half finished by now. Instead we’re just building another dam and hoping we actually get enough rain to fill it. Great plan.

bigfeet bigfeet 11:27 pm 23 Feb 09

sepi said :

The bad plastic is apparently brittle perfectly clear plastic. The more you use and it gets a bit worn, the more of the female hormone it will leach into the contents. That is why they say you shouldn’t just keep re-using the same water bottle.

I have been told it is only the bottles that have a number 3 or 7 in the triangle recycle symbol that use BPA. A quick check of my fridge has the four clear plastic bottles that are in there (one juice, one soda water, and two different brands of water that I just refill out of the tap) are all number 1 (PET) plastic which apparantly is BPA free. Maybe the “bad” types aren’t that common in Australia.

monomania monomania 11:10 pm 23 Feb 09

smokey4 said :

Canberrra is between a rock and a hard place. further water via a new new dam or increasing recycling is only stealing someone elses water. Canberra is part of the Murray Darling basin. This seems to be forgotton.

Who’s water is it anyway? What if it purchased from irrigators who decide to trade rather than use their allocation. Or if the water had been collected when there were surpluses and stored in dams built for the Canberra community for the express purpose of providing urban water in times of scarcity. The ACT had no say in the over allocation of irrigation water in the last 25 years, a lot of that water coming from the surface of the ACT.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 10:53 pm 23 Feb 09

Thanks.

sepi sepi 10:39 pm 23 Feb 09

Look up BPA free plastic (that is the good stuff). Canada has banned plastic containing BPA from baby bottles (not sure if they have banned it from everything else too).

The bad plastic is apparently brittle perfectly clear plastic. The more you use and it gets a bit worn, the more of the female hormone it will leach into the contents. That is why they say you shouldn’t just keep re-using the same water bottle.

Those aluminium water bottles seem to be making a come-back in health food shops as a safer alternative.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 10:31 pm 23 Feb 09

sepi said :

Bottled water is a major environmental problem, and hard clear plastic bottles leach hormones into the contents. Stay away from the stuff.

Someone else mentioned this to me the other day. Can you please elaborate more on this (or provide a link). I prefer water to most other cool drinks, so I am keen to learn more.

Also, is bottled water any worse than other bottled soft drinks?

sepi sepi 10:06 pm 23 Feb 09

And if we used recycled water, it would still go back into the system after its second use. It isn’t lost forever.

miz miz 8:13 pm 23 Feb 09

I don’t see how a new dam that gets filled with rain (look at Qld floods – when it rains, it buckets) would be stealing water from downstream. But seeing most of the water we use in canberra flows downstream, NOT using it by restrictions is ‘stealing’ flows that used to go downstream. Not to mention the cost of replacing all those dead street trees that would have got sprinkled. (Yamba drive trees are starting to suffer, because some dingbat has stopped the sprinkers).

Talk about misplaced greenwash.

smokey4 smokey4 7:27 pm 23 Feb 09

Canberrra is between a rock and a hard place. further water via a new new dam or increasing recycling is only stealing someone elses water. Canberra is part of the Murray Darling basin. This seems to be forgotton.

monomania monomania 4:46 pm 23 Feb 09

tylersmayhem said :


No, I think your argument that water as already too expensive is unbelievable. There are people like you b**ching about the price of tap water, but quite possible spend a couple of buck for a bottle of Mt. Franklin on the same day. You comments about showering and watering with Mt. Franklin are an random and dim-witted as your comments about the price of tap water. 😐

You brought up the Mt. Frankin and compared its price to Canberra water. I wouldn’t know the price of bottled water. Unlike a nice garden, even a green lawn, bottled water is environmentally harmful.

You’re whinging that its too low. But you don’t give a single reason for this belief or why I’m wrong, just abuse. My argument is that $3.70 is twice as much as ACTEW can** provide 1 KL of water, 3 times what it was 8 years ago and the highest of any city in Austalia. And If you want water to cost more, how much more?

** providing new supply

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 4:41 pm 23 Feb 09

We HUMANS have f@#ked this earth, mother nature has had enough and now we must pay the ultimate price.

What happened – a bunch of trees beat you up?

sepi sepi 4:19 pm 23 Feb 09

The January exemptions to wash windows for the first time in 2 years were a good idea I thought. And letting people use watering systems once a week while on holidays is also sound. It will use less water than letting gardens eie completely and then starting again – establishing new plants uses heaps and heaps of water.

Feb has been super hot and dry – of course we will use more water. And not all of that is on gardens. People shower more in hot weather and wash more clothes and towels – especially after going to the pool etc.

Also – I think a lot of us have finally got around to installing weeper hose and drippers etc, so more ‘legal’ watering is going on.

tylersmayhem tylersmayhem 4:12 pm 23 Feb 09

Mt Franklin water. Water 1 cent. The rest is packaging, transport, marketing, labour and profit. Don’t tell me you’re showering and watering your garden with Mt Franklin to save the environment.

No, I think your argument that water as already too expensive is unbelievable. There are people like you b**ching about the price of tap water, but quite possible spend a couple of buck for a bottle of Mt. Franklin on the same day. You comments about showering and watering with Mt. Franklin are an random and dim-witted as your comments about the price of tap water. 😐

Timberwolf65 Timberwolf65 4:11 pm 23 Feb 09

We HUMANS have f@#ked this earth, mother nature has had enough and now we must pay the ultimate price.

Timberwolf65 Timberwolf65 4:09 pm 23 Feb 09

Perhaps the sudden increase in water usage has something to do with the “use all the water you want” campaign that happened towards the end of last year, “wash your car, Wash your windows, use all the water you can for two weekends only” or however long it was. What a ridiculous thing to do. It would of just made people question the seriousness of water restrictions.

sepi sepi 3:32 pm 23 Feb 09

Bottled water is a major environmental problem, and hard clear plastic bottles leach hormones into the contents. Stay away from the stuff.

monomania monomania 3:17 pm 23 Feb 09

tylersmayhem said :

We already pay too much for our water…

You seem to have a nasty crack habit of sorts. Around $3.00 for a thousand litres of drinking water is ridiculously cheap. When was the last time you bought a bottle of Mt. Franklin?

Mt Franklin water. Water 1 cent. The rest is packaging, transport, marketing, labour and profit. Don’t tell me you’re showering and watering your garden with Mt Franklin to save the environment.

monomania monomania 3:05 pm 23 Feb 09

caf said :

monomania: There’s a reason why you don’t hear people complaining about the scarcity of Ferraris.

I never had a Ferrari so I won’t miss one but I will miss the garden I have had for 30 years if I can’t afford the water because it gets priced too high (above what it costs to provide) simply because the government has decided price would a way to restrict use even at times when it is plentiful.

There is an anti-dam mentality that equates opposing dams in our catchments with saving the Franklin.

In times past some religious fanatics used to flagellate themselves, whip so that the skin broke and wear shirts made of course animal hair (horse) to irritate the skin and make themselves very uncomfortable.

I didn’t say they were the only reasons or that people needed more than one.

aidan aidan 2:59 pm 23 Feb 09

We’ve got alot of tough natives in the garden (the not-tough ones died a long time ago) but the extended dry and extreme weather a few weeks back has really been exceptionally tough on the plants.

The tank ran out a week or so ago so it’s just 7-10 evens for me. I also got pissed off with standing in the dark getting bitten by mozzies and watching all the water running off the hydrophobic soil. SO. I got 2m of 19mm black poly pipe. Put a quick click (nylex style) fitting on one end, a stopper on the other and shoved about a dozen barbed take-offs into the pipe. I attached flexible tubing to each takeoff (varying lengths, up to 2m long) and popped these nice little drippers on the end. So I have a moveable irrigation system. I plonk it where it is needed, attach the hose and turn it on and then adjust the flow of the drippers for the needs of each plant. I leave it for 45 mins to an hour. Works a treat. I don’t get bitten. The water doesn’t run off and it is way more effective than sprinklers (which you have to have on for bloody ages to get through the mulch).

As an added flourish I put a tap on the poly pipe so I can turn off the flow when I move it around without having to go back to the tap. I also got these nice drippers which have eight outlet holes and a nice “clicky” sort of flow adjustment. Very nice to use.

You’re welcome.

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