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Do you want your bags?

By johnboy - 2 June 2009 64

This sign has gone up on Cowper Street in Ainslie.

If it is indeed a protest against plans to ban disposable plastic bags here in Canberra how do you feel about the issue?

The moves they are afoot.

What’s Your opinion?


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Do you want your bags?
Madame Workalot 11:37 am 02 Jun 09

Thumper said :

Constitutional?

That’s interesting. How so?

Under the Constitution (can’t remember what section – maybe 51?), only the Commonwealth has the power to impose duties, customs and excise. I believe the bag levy is an excise.

Madame Workalot 11:36 am 02 Jun 09

The ACT Government isn’t going to be able to impose the 10c levy compulsorily because they don’t have the power under the Constitution. They might be able to put enough pressure on businesses in the ACT to compel them to impose the charge themselves. Doubtful though.

phototext 11:29 am 02 Jun 09

“I believe they’ve hit a constitutional snag on the levy and are moving to a ban.”

Oh, even effin better.

Do these people actually bother to think this stuff through. For gods sake.

Thumper 11:28 am 02 Jun 09

Constitutional?

That’s interesting. How so?

johnboy 11:20 am 02 Jun 09

caf said :

Ban? I thought the plans were for a 10c tax/excise/royalty whatever.

I believe they’ve hit a constitutional snag on the levy and are moving to a ban.

Thumper 11:19 am 02 Jun 09

Won’t someone think of the turtles and whales and aardvarks?

Pommy bastard 11:07 am 02 Jun 09

Maybe his wife and mother-in-law have walked out on him, and he’s regretting it?

barking toad 11:06 am 02 Jun 09

The Productivity Commission produced a report on the plastic shopping bag issue a few years ago. The conclusion was that the cost of banning/charging far outweighed any incidental benefit to waste management or the environment.

But in case the hippies get their way, you can bulk buy about 3000 for around $90. Use them for shopping and rubbish bags (as most do now).

The cost is worth it just to see the expressions of horror on hippies faces in Woolies.

phototext 11:00 am 02 Jun 09

I’m with Ainslie protestor.

They make great garbage bags. Gonna have to stock up.

It’s gonna be a right royal pain in the butt doing a shop without them, if you drive a car then the “green bags” are fine but on a bike with a backpack then they make the pack so much easier.

Looks like I’ll have to pay 10c per bag penalty for not driving a car.

Clown Killer 10:55 am 02 Jun 09

The fact that bags may end up outside of the desired waste management stream is essentially the issue. Given the number of bags used nationally, an insignificant amount of these end up outside of the waste stream, and of these a tiny amount create problems for wildlife. Any suggestion that plastic bags cause any sort of real or significant ecological hazard is simply a lie pushed by self-interest groups.

Policy efforts would be better spent on improving the waste management stream and educating the community of the (minor) environmental benefits of ensuring plastic bags end up in landfill where they belong rather than removing an inherant good from the community for the sake of a few whales or quolls or whatever else is dumb enough to mistake a shopping bag for dinner.

S4anta 10:53 am 02 Jun 09

shanefos said :

Clown Killer said :

Baning plastic shopping bags is an absolute wank. Just another example of a government devoid of real policy ideas pandering to envio-mentalists in a cynical grab for votes.

I’m keen to hear your alternatives… Sorry, “real policy ideas”.

Righto,

Sensible packaging guidelines. The perfect example of this, would be eliminating prepackaging fruit and veg at the supermarkets, and going back to the plastic bag on rollers, rather than say, four avacaodoes in a pastic tub, in a plastic bag.

When this rolls out, someone subsidises the production of replacement bags (be they the ‘ebviro-bags’ currently in production at the moment) or other. This would be a perfect time for the Government not to throw money into the actual subsidy but offering tax breaks to big polluting business to step up and offer a solution, such as sponsoring the cheaper production and importing of the bags.

This is a reach, but if one was to vote to for this, and call them environmentally aware, they then get blindfolded put on a bus and taken out to a primary producer who then shows them what is being done on the farms or whatever to show them that although Agriculutre is curreently being seen as a major consumer and producer of these issues, they also get a decent understanding of at times, it is unavoidable and pillioring the hand that feeds you is ultimately, a total waste of time.

shanefos 10:44 am 02 Jun 09

Clown Killer said :

Baning plastic shopping bags is an absolute wank. Just another example of a government devoid of real policy ideas pandering to envio-mentalists in a cynical grab for votes.

I’m keen to hear your alternatives… Sorry, “real policy ideas”.

S4anta 10:41 am 02 Jun 09

This whole idea is complete rubbish. If Governments really want to do something about reducing landfill waste (which is one of the major beefs, plus the whole getting on the wind and ending up in wrong environments i.e. whales stomachs) they would create guidelines for responsible packaging for the individual products, and couple that with legislation that would force companies to comply.

yet another example of Governments being forced to pander to an environmental movement that is unfortunately hamstrung by urban dwellers looking for a quick and easy, soft n cuddly, settle the conscience then place our head back our self satisfied arse solution

Clown Killer 10:33 am 02 Jun 09

Baning plastic shopping bags is an absolute wank. Just another example of a government devoid of real policy ideas pandering to envio-mentalists in a cynical grab for votes.

caf 10:31 am 02 Jun 09

Ban? I thought the plans were for a 10c tax/excise/royalty whatever.

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