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Dragway for Majura Valley

seepi 1 December 2005 52

The proposed Dragway for block 51 behind Mt Majura is causing consternation amongst Hackett and nearby residents, and excitement in the motor racing crowd. The dragway was an election promise by Labor, but they have been unable to find a suitable site. So in desperation they have settled on Majura Valley. This site, within 3km of houses, will apparently be the only dragway in the world to be within 3km of residential areas. It does seema bit unfortunate to set up such a major project for protests about noise and the hours it operates etc, even before it is built…Canberra residents in the neighbouring suburbs are very upset, and anyone who likes to walk/run/ride on Mt Majura can kiss the tranquility goodbye. There are also issues about heritage buldings + wildlife.

Last night a packed public meeting was held at the legislative assembly. Bizarrely the meeting was held in a small room, meaning many had to stand and further crowds hung around the doorway. Some motorsport fans stayed outside with their cars and beers. It was stifling inside, and that was before Simon Corbell started speaking.

Simon spoke, and sat on the fence as usual, stating that while we must listen to residents, we must also support the needs of the dragway fans. No clues there.

Bill Stefaniak then spoke and he stated that Hackett residents would only hear noise to the level of a car going past your window, for 12 minutes a year. He also stated that the noise would be easily drowned out by a magpie warbling. He presented no actual evidence for these theories.

Deb Foskey then spoke, and mentioned that fossil fuels are old fashioned, and that Majura Road is already hard to turn onto for local residents. She stated that she had not got elected by promising a dragway. She also went into costs of a dragway (which are not fully budgetted for by the government) , and associated costs for improving the roads giving access to it.

So what is the truth of the matter. Will Hackett residents hear a constant drone of engines all weekend every weekend, or not? And is there any way to test this before the dragway is decided upon? Can’t they go out to the site and make similar noise, and prove to local residents that this will not be a permanent end to the use of backyards in Hackett on weekends? Also – isn’t there a speedway at Queanbeyan? Do we really need another one in the ACT?


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nyssa76 4:58 pm 07 May 06

Build the damn dragway – for the revheads…charge a noise pollution tax – for the nimbys.

I lived in Watson several years ago. Couldn’t even get near the shops or out of the suburb from the Summernats crowd that decends on there each year.

Noise was a pain in the arse but it was only for a few days.

My only complaint was about the drunken fuckwits who thought it would be fun to do the same outside of NATEX (I hate the new “EPIC” name).

Then again, the Govt won’t build it. Don’t people know that pollies always lie to the people to get their votes?

ant 9:49 am 07 May 06

Regarding the 3km from residences thing. The old dragway, at the airport, was a hell of a lot closer than 3km to residences! The residents of Pialligo had the delightful experience of the dragway at all hours of the day and night. When they revved, all conversation had to stop, it was that loud. Also you had people camping out there, often the Harley Davidson crowd, and they would be riding their bikes (know how loud they are?!) up and down Pialligo Ave all night. It was shocking.
The dragway should not be built anywhere near where people live, the noise is hellish.

revhead 6:50 pm 04 Jan 06

Cant race on a drag strip,
guess I will have to race on the street!

As for “the arts are long seen as a contributer to our culture, I don’t think the same has been or ever will be said of cars.”, I would think that the cars at summernats would be considered art” (I SAID IT!). What about all the buisiness and that is created from car fanatics? I personally think this brings a lot to the community.

2.5 hours is a long time for families to travel to see the drags then travel 2.5 hours back, all for a night out with the family.

el 4:34 pm 07 Dec 05

Couldn’t care less what they build near my place. I’m all for more development and have been at a loss to explain why Canberra has been bloating outwards (Gunghalin – Tuggeranong) for so long when there’s so much free space in the city, in older suburbs that could be used.

seepi 6:57 pm 06 Dec 05

I was just trying to point out the astonishing rate of change in these suburbs – which is quite different to the rest of Canberra. Other suburbs (like Pearce for instance) haven’t really changed in 15 years. It is very easy to criticise when it isn’t happening to you.
(Red Hill were actually pretty keen to get rid of Quamby, and campaigned against a bigger version going up on the current site.)
I bet you wouldn’t want a six storey building built opposite your house and staring into your backyard,in a tiny street already too small for street parking.
If the dragway is not gong to be intrusively noisy, then why are the government keeping their expert noise report a secret? IF someone can prove to me that it won’t be overly noisy I will feel much better. I mean real proof, not wild statements about magpies and doorbells.

el 6:12 pm 06 Dec 05

Midnitecalla – the 300C is absolutely a beauty. Shame about the price tag… I’ll just have to keep cruising around in the VF.

As for Quamby in Watson – the good people of Narrabundah/Red Hill put up with it without any problems…

But the dragway has the potential to significantly disturb us all weekend every weekend.

Bollocks.

I’m sure the 6 storey old folks home is going to ruin your life. Build a bridge.

Maelinar 11:25 am 06 Dec 05

Thumper, the northside dragway is called Gininderra Drive…

Thumper 11:14 am 06 Dec 05

I live in Charnwood, if they put a dragway there it would get stolen….

Ralph 10:12 am 06 Dec 05

I live in Gungahlin, and would gladly welcome a dragway in our unproductive grass paddocks.

Slinky the Shocker 10:00 am 06 Dec 05

Hey,Ralph, where do you live? Why don’t you want a f*&^n dragway next to your suburb?
I think the real NIMBYs are the ones who want the damn thing, but somewhere else. I personally love Hackett, because I ride the old MTB or run around the ridge there or just hop up with a couple of mates to have beers and enjoy the sunset. Preferably without dragway noise.
I think there should be a poll which side of town wants the dragway the most and they can have it! Now if that’s North Canberra, I call it democracy and give up.

Ralph 9:43 am 06 Dec 05

Somebody get the violins out. Obviously Seepi has made in abundantly clear how though life is for those in Watson/Hackett/Ainslie. Twits.

seepi 9:15 am 06 Dec 05

The rate of channge in these inner north suburbs is far greater than anyone else. And anyone who’s been through a workplace reshuffle will know that people react badly to endless change. Especially when they percieve their lives getting worse and worse. REsidents of Ainslie/Hackett / Watson are copping it from all sides. We get Summernats, the new Quamby, the 6 storey old folks home, endless developments soaking up all the parking. These suburbs are changing into something different year by year, and people are a bit sick of it. The dragway is the last straw. From our perspective the govt wants to put everything in our backyards. And we dont’ complain about all of it. Since Summernats has been cleaned up residents let it be. Noone has complained about Quamby in Watson. But the dragway has the potential to significantly disturb us all weekend every weekend.
And if you think we are complainers – what about the residents of yerrabi, who are complaining about a scout hut being built. I’ll swap them the scout hut for the dragway any day!

Thumper 9:36 pm 05 Dec 05

No idea, but if you’ve got a spare million or so….

midnitecalla 9:27 pm 05 Dec 05

ok thumper where is this “gin joint” and where can i sign up?

Thumper 9:25 pm 05 Dec 05

Okay, now I’ve stopped laughing at the comments.

Drag racing, opera, interpretive dance, ballet, retirement and leasure expos, ferret in pants exhibitions, whatever. I don’t like them.

I really can’t stand alot of things but I don’t expect that a lot of people can stand things that I like.

What’s the problem. The government made it an election issue and now they have reneged.

Let’s have a dragway. I’m not going to go there but so what? We have all the abovementioned, well maybe not the ferret/pants thing so why not a dragway for those who like that sort of thing.

Sadly we keep getting told that we live in greatly diverse city yet in actuality we get this diversity rammed down our throats.

As much as JustBands wants funding for live music (which I agree with), so should there be some funding for a dragway.

It’s a reasonable sized city people. Surely we can give something to everyone. After all, as I pointed out, we all have very different interests and no-one’s interest is fundamentally any better than anyone else’s.

(Except mine *grin*)

I’d like to see a dedicated jazz club with low ceilings and small candlelit tables with a shady jazz band led by a sultry singer playing in the corner and beers and bourbons being sold.

Really it’s no different than going to watch the drags.

Now I think I wil go and listen to Brian Wilson’s ‘Smile’ and have a wine.

Cheers

midnitecalla 9:03 pm 05 Dec 05

its those cardigans ( and those who wear shoes with out socks who are upper class bogans)who always think that that they are the cultural suave center of residences . and hate any thing that dosnt involve the current price of realestate as an activity. the Dragway is a threat to thier sanity and pocketbooks. How about we ban the Arts or model railroad exhibitions ? just think if that were to happen you would see lake burley griffin part and the bogong ranges move to put the events back on the table! there is a “class” in canberra who are dead set against motor racing lest we degenerate back in to the pool of normalcy relavant in other cities,

thus tarnishing that image of a serene but boring and “safe” Capital city where the Snobs rule .

Also el im a chrysler man as well, and think the 300 c is a gem. ( still have my old mans E55 RT )

el 7:31 pm 05 Dec 05

Yeah ditto what Kramer and Bonfire said. I wouldn’t classify myself as a “bogan”, don’t generally wear black t-shirts, thongs, wife-beaters and tend to drink very little alcohol (not beer generally).

The only motorsport I give two shits about is drag racing (couldn’t care less about F1, bikes, and very little interest in Ford/Holden touring cars, (I’m a Chrysler man, dammit))

As far as noise goes, for weekend off-street drags (usually road-registerd cars) you wouldn’t hear anything. I can’t imagine Canberra getting more than 3-4 annual events involving top fuel cars. As far as noise goes for that, you *might just* hear it (remembering there’s a frigging big hill in the way), for the 4-5 seconds of each run at full noise.

What is it about Ainslie/Hackett/Watson that brings out the NIMBY brigade in such numbers, anyway?

Christina 5:21 pm 05 Dec 05

Here is some stuff off the brochure canberra motorsport supporters group handed out at the do about the dragway at the LA last week:
* The dragway will be excavated 5m into the ground blah blah same features as tracks in sydney and perth but the majura site will be 2.1kms (more than double the distance) further away from the closest street than the sites in sydney and perth
* Noise testing results 3.7km from the sydney site (3.7km is the distance between proposed site and hackett) shows that the noise from the loudest events, top fuel dragsters, is quieter than carhorns, garbage trucks, doorbells, phones ringing and toilets flushing and only slightly higher than road traffic noise. This level of noise will only be made for approximately 5 seconds per race, and the top fuel dragsters are only allowed to compete a maximum of 3 days a year.
* Since 1978 there has not been a noise complaint lodged with the management or ACT government regarding motor racing events. The old facility had less noise mitigating factors than the new one will have and was less than half the distance from Campbell as the new facility will be from Hackett.

Seepi Im not sure where you have the bit about it being the only dragway in the world to be less than 3km from houses…

mister z 10:18 am 05 Dec 05

Pooh pooh to your dragway. Now I don’t live in Canberra any more so you can hardly call me a NIMBY on this. But I certainly don’t want that nasty racket disturbing me when I fly in to visit family and am having a quiet macchiato in Ainslie.

If you like tinkering with mechanicals and engines, eh, what’s so wrong with model trains?

bonfire 3:42 pm 02 Dec 05

kramer makes a valid point. people who only know me through work are stunned when they see what i drive and what i spanner together out of hours.

sterotypes are dangerous. except when used to persecute bogans and greenies.

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