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Drama at Cranleigh School very early Saturday morning

By Hank - 18 October 2011 32

I haven’t published this sooner as I was expecting some sort of statement or report from the police; however I may have still missed reading it. There was a very large angry group who gathered in the Cranley school car park early on Saturday morning.

The mob spilled out on to Stark Street yelling and trying to stop cars. Unfortunately they did management to stop one shaking it and banging on the hood. The car slowly drove through the crowd and got away.

I don’t think this matters and I don’t want this thread to turn into a racist rant however they all seemed to be Sudanese.

Did anyone else see more of this?

[ED – we’ve had this statement from ACT Policing on this]

Around 1am on October 15, police attended a disturbance in Stark Street, Holt. It is understood that the disturbance had occurred following a party at a residence in the street.

Two women, one aged 18 and the other 19, were found to be intoxicated, aggressive, and abusive toward police. Both were taken into protective custody and conveyed to the ACT Watch House.

A third person, an 18-year-old man, attempted to prevent one of the women being taken into custody and he was apprehended for obstructing police. However, he was later formally cautioned and released.

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32 Responses to
Drama at Cranleigh School very early Saturday morning
Deref 7:11 am 20 Oct 11

jayskette said :

drunken violence at 1am – sounds very Australian to me

Yep. Good to see these people are integrating so quickly.

Jethro 11:20 pm 19 Oct 11

housebound said :

Or perhaps we’re looking at PTSD, for which gratitude for a better life (ie that we presume) is not sufficient treatment.

PTSD sounds like a completely reasonable reason why the Sudanese community may seem more violent than other ethnic groups within the Canberra community.

An 18 year old Sudanese kid who arrived in Australia at age 15 (3 years ago) has most likely spent close to half their life in a refugee camp with tens of thousands of other people, and where violence is very often the only means of survival.

This is not to excuse the behaviour. Just make sense of it. I would hope that we have enough compassion in Canberra to work with kids like this in order to solve their problems, not work against them by labelling them as thugs and criminals, and pushing them forward into the criminal justice system.

LSWCHP 11:20 pm 19 Oct 11

I work with a professional engineer of Sudanese descent who came to Australia as a teenage refugee, and he’s one of the nicest blokes you’d ever run across. He has a beautiful wife and the cutest kids you’ve ever seen.

I also know some people who have kids going to school with some other Sudanese kids, and they’re having a helluva time because the Sudanese kids are very violent and disruptive in the school community. They are dealing with it in a kind and effective manner.

So people are just people, white, black or whatever. Remember that many of these folks come from violent places, and are traumatised if nothing else.

I know it can be tough, but I think we should do the best we can to live harmoniously together, and cut them a little slack, recognising that they are living under very strange circumstances.

And before I start singing Kumbayah, there are things that everybody knows are wrong, regardless of race, colour or creed. Beating people up, abusing children, dealing drugs and stealing other peoples stuff etc should all be dealt with by the cops, regardless of whether it’s done by first generation Australians or one thousandth generation Australians.

jayskette 9:29 pm 19 Oct 11

drunken violence at 1am – sounds very Australian to me

housebound 6:25 pm 19 Oct 11

Oddly enough, the few Sudanese households around here seem to be really nice people. They have a few cultural differences, but not the get-drunk-get-violent type.

Perhaps the issue is that some people will have trouble fitting in no matter where they are.

Or perhaps we’re looking at PTSD, for which gratitude for a better life (ie that we presume) is not sufficient treatment.

trickyxr 6:22 pm 19 Oct 11

Probably the relatives of the trouble makers at Kingsford smith school.

Henry82 5:04 pm 19 Oct 11

PBO said :

All immigrants should realise that when you play in our yard you play by our rules.

Completely agree.

Jivrashia 4:41 pm 19 Oct 11

Perhaps they’re trying to proudly represent themselves across Australia’s entire social demography, including bogan-ism?

luther_bendross 3:43 pm 19 Oct 11

“I don’t think this matters and I don’t want this thread to turn into a racist rant however they all seemed to be Sudanese.”

When constructing such a post and you feel you must start a sentence with “I don’t think this matters…” then go with your gut instinct. It has nothing to do with the story and it looks like you’ve turned this into the rant/discussion you were trying to avoid.

Classified 3:22 pm 19 Oct 11

MattT said :

My stars. I’ve never, ever seen white Australians getting smashed at a party and causing a disturbance.

And they should be dealt with too.

Alternatively, let’s just think of a situation where someone else did something stupid and use that as an excuse to never have any consequences at all! What a wonderful world it would be!

MattT 2:49 pm 19 Oct 11

My stars. I’ve never, ever seen white Australians getting smashed at a party and causing a disturbance.

All immigrants should realise that when you play in our yard you play by our rules.

So you’re saying they should’ve been doing burnouts in a white Commodore instead? Aussie pride!

Obligatory D-Gen.

Mysteryman 2:17 pm 19 Oct 11

PBO said :

All immigrants should realise that when you play in our yard you play by our rules. There has been a lot of Sudanese centred crime of late and they should regulate themselves before another group goes and does it for them.

I understand that many/most of these Sudanese people are refugees and have come from some truly awful situations. Adjusting to life in another country is no doubt difficult, but I think that you’re right in saying that ” you play in our yard you play by our rules”. I think the problem is that most of the refugees here aren’t given adequate support and instruction regarding how to function appropriately in the new environment. I know a number of people who work with refugees and quite often the poor people are expected to figure out how most aspects of our society work, and what constitutes appropriate behaviour, on their own. A bit of help would probably go a long way.

PBO 1:07 pm 19 Oct 11

All immigrants should realise that when you play in our yard you play by our rules. There has been a lot of Sudanese centred crime of late and they should regulate themselves before another group goes and does it for them.

Classified 1:06 pm 19 Oct 11

Translation: I can be apprehended for obstructing police, but not charged. Wow. Is it because I is black?

bigM 12:20 pm 19 Oct 11

I also witnessed the incident and found it to be disgusting behaviour by the group of Sudanese. I also dont want this to turn into a racist rant but this isnt the first time we have read of similar groups causing a signnificant disturbance

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