Former Marist College teacher charged

Cameron 17 January 2008 122

Following on from a story a while back alluding to the possibility of former marist people being charged, the ABC are reporting that former teacher John Kostka (also known as John Chute) is being charged with 18 counts of “acts of indecency”.

Allegedly Mr Kostka indecently assaulted seven young men aged between 13 and 15 throughout the 1980’s.

He’s in court this afternoon.

ABC story is here.


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lukewagner1958 lukewagner1958 12:41 pm 10 Mar 09

BACKGROUND: Kostka worked at over 20 schools during his so called teaching ” career.

He was “Moved On” from Marist Brothers in Lismore NSW Late 1960s. I was a student at the Lismore school at the time and this became common knowledge amongst the students.

Incredibly this was at the insistence of the father of a boy he molested. Even more incredible is that the father was a Lismore Police officer………………………

MY POINT: It is impossible to believe that the schools in Kostkas path of destruction were not privy to his previous postings………………. His pedigree.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 8:11 am 03 Jan 09

hithere said :

Hi

I happened to notice a post on this site by Howdy which sparked my interested querying whether “My Lyons” was the same one that went to Wanniassa and had an “incident” with a female student there. Believe it or not I was that student, I was his victim and whilst I did seek his company at the time I sought his company as a trusted teacher and supporter and came to think of him like a father. I even called him dad. I started going over to his house on a regular basis and he began touching me and doing things to me and in fact we did pretty much everything but have sex and I loved him. However, I was 12 years old and in NO WAY did would I have allowed this to happen if I knew it was wrong. I was emotionally manipulated and taken advantage of. No sexual abuse victim is a willing victim. They reason why it is called sexual abuse is because a child is too young to make up their mind… no matter what they might think. It still hurts to this day. I find it hard to think of him as a bad person ad I still want to believe he loved me. But I have had problems with sex ever since and many emotional problems too because of what happened to me. Kids at school bullied me and the school provided me with no support at all. One thing I certainly hope has changed since I was at school is that I hope victims of sexual abuse are no longer ridiculed because of it, that the actions of pedophiles are taken more seriously and no one who is sexually abused is ever ever seen as a “willing participant” cause there is no such thing.

HI Hithere. to answer your question, No… it’s not the same Mr Lyons. The Lyons from Marist was gay and only abused boys. You are right in your comments on sexual abuse victims and I appreciate your courage in speaking up on this forum. Have you seen a counselor? If not I can recommend a very good one with experience in working with sexual abuse victims. If you are interested contact me at TimeforHealingACT@gmail.com

go3zone go3zone 11:07 pm 02 Jan 09

I heard Greer Lyons even defended him. Not sure if its true or not.

go3zone go3zone 11:02 pm 02 Jan 09

I too know about the Mr Lyons at Wanniassa, I think his name was Norm. Apparently his wife Greer was a primary school teacher too and I heard she knew all about what was happening and did nothing. Makes you wonder.

hithere hithere 9:18 pm 15 Nov 08

Hi

I happened to notice a post on this site by Howdy which sparked my interested querying whether “My Lyons” was the same one that went to Wanniassa and had an “incident” with a female student there. Believe it or not I was that student, I was his victim and whilst I did seek his company at the time I sought his company as a trusted teacher and supporter and came to think of him like a father. I even called him dad. I started going over to his house on a regular basis and he began touching me and doing things to me and in fact we did pretty much everything but have sex and I loved him. However, I was 12 years old and in NO WAY did would I have allowed this to happen if I knew it was wrong. I was emotionally manipulated and taken advantage of. No sexual abuse victim is a willing victim. They reason why it is called sexual abuse is because a child is too young to make up their mind… no matter what they might think. It still hurts to this day. I find it hard to think of him as a bad person ad I still want to believe he loved me. But I have had problems with sex ever since and many emotional problems too because of what happened to me. Kids at school bullied me and the school provided me with no support at all. One thing I certainly hope has changed since I was at school is that I hope victims of sexual abuse are no longer ridiculed because of it, that the actions of pedophiles are taken more seriously and no one who is sexually abused is ever ever seen as a “willing participant” cause there is no such thing.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 5:09 pm 14 Jun 08

To restlessheart1

Kostka by his own admission fiddled with boys (yes, I’m ex-Marist Canberra and also knew both Kostka and Lyons very well). He also claimed in court it’s because he has a ‘sexual disorder’ brought on by being fiddled with himself by other Marist Bro’s when he was a kid. To me it seems unlikely that Kostka only started fiddling with kids late in life.

And for the record, I read your earlier post the same way that Mick1965 did. You did say Kostka was “a “touchy” teacher” (Line 5 of your earlier post – post 109 of 21:28, 5 Jun 2008)and then later say “And I’m certain he never tried anything sexual on any of us!” (line 13 of your post) So Mick1965 seems right in what he says by my reading of your words. Sorry but there it is.

For mine, I doubt you will ever know if Kostka touched your mates. As it stands, the suicide rate at Marist Canberra is higher than other schools in the ACT – why is that do you think? Personally, I think Kostka (Lyons, et al..)can thank his/their lucky stars that A) the ACT has a bullshit statute of limitations on abuse cases and B) students that died by their own hand can no longer talk.

Oh, and one last thing, for all you know Mick1965 and other on this forum could well have been victims of these F***’s or know fellow students that are. So a bit of sympathy on your part wouldn’t go astray rather than dismissing his comments as just a rant.

BTW: any body whose interested should check out the Marist Canberra Old Boys site on Facebook. One ex student has put what seems to be a very heartfelt apology on the site to his fellow students. The person apologises for standing by and doing nothing despite the physical violence he witnessed and even took part in at the school. A very nice sentiment. Now if only the school/Marist order would do the same.

restlessheart1 restlessheart1 3:31 pm 14 Jun 08

Since my last post I’ve read every post on this board again. The below are quotes from these. Interestingly, the second last is from Mick1965 who appears determined to rewrite or contextually alter whatever I say and then abuse me. The last one is from my own initial post.

1. “I knew Brother Kostka in my time as a student at Marist (Lyons was gone b4 I started at MCC). I had occasion to join in extra curricular activities he supervised (ie photography club). I never saw anything that would suggest “inappropriate contact”. He was (is?) a genuine, generous, likable character – though he was probably a little more touchy-feely than most adolescent males would be used to in this day and age.”
2. “It never happened at any school I was at as a student or as a teacher and it sure as hell isn’t happening in my current school.”
3. “Your dealings with Kostka were similar to mine and many other students, Gerry-Built. While in no way condoning the awful behaviour of Kostka towards some students, to many he was just a good bloke. In my years at Marist I saw brothers smack students upside the head, slam them into lockers, hit students with various implements, but violence was something you never feared from Kostka – which made him one of the few people young students could go to when they needed help.”
4. “I also agree that there are many rumours flying around about Kostka and Paul, and we may never know which of these are true and which are false.”
5. “I’ve read most of the above posts and agree with a lot of them.”

I’ve never condoned what Kostka did. I’ve expressed surprise based on my own experience, as have others. It’s worth noting that Mick1965 was busy being born at the time of my dealings with Kostka. Who knows when Kostka started his activities? Not me, and certainly not Mick!

Forums like this provide anonymity by way of nicknames so that people can express their views. Unfortunately, there are those who abuse this by swearing unnecessarily. This is childish. Being a victim of anything does not entitle you to publish profane statements. Most contributors are more than capable of doing so without carrying on in that fashion.
This will be my last post. I have nothing more to add, and expect that Kostka will be sentenced very shortly. I won’t be back, so anyone who takes exception to anything I’ve said and wants to have a go at me about it, please keep in mind that I won’t be reading it.

To most of you – Ant and Canberra Gardiner especially, all the best! I’ve already said goodbye to Mick!

restlessheart1 restlessheart1 11:05 pm 12 Jun 08

Mick1965 – I explained in some detail what I meant by touchy. I never said: “he was very touchy but I am sure he never touched any of us”.

Yes – I am sure I’m a lawyer.

You went from asking me what I was trying to say to seeing “gaping holes” in my comments.

I described your “handful” comment as childish.

Goodbye Mick

Mick1965 Mick1965 3:33 pm 11 Jun 08

restlessheart1, here is a quote from your post where you are absolutely speaking for others:

“In fact he turned me from a kid who couldn’t draw at all to one who later won prizes for art. And I’m certain he never tried anything sexual on any of us!”

It does not take a trained teacher to see the gaping holes in all your comments. And you say you are a lawyer? HA!

restlessheart1, I will do as you did and speak for other in this forum – others such as myself who suffered from Kostka’s depravities. I really don’t think you should come in here and tell us about how wonderful your mate Kostka is. He has done terrible things to most of us here and to our friends. For you to speak on his actions in the 1960s and say things like “he was very touchy….but I am sure he necver touched any of us”…well, it just strikes me as odd. Surely they taught you the art of tact in law school? Or maybe Brother Kostka taught you?

And then to make a comment like “that’s childish” when you are talking to abuse victims going through an undescribable time at the moment….well, are you SURE you are a lawyer? Or did they just have really low standards when you passed the bar?

Of course I’m being childish. Frankly – better than being a complete dick any day!

restlessheart1 restlessheart1 8:33 pm 06 Jun 08

Mick1965 – re my timeline, Kostka definitely taught in Hunters Hill NSW in 1965 and 1966. I heard he went to Canberra from there, but see from this page that he appears to have been in Penshurst NSW in the late 60s and early 70s. I haven’t seen him since late 1966.
If you have trouble with what I’m “trying to say”, you should read my post again – it is quite clear. I didn’t speak for anyone.
Everyone who has written a post here knows what Kostka has pleaded guilty to, so your “handful” comment was unnecessary and childish, especially for a “trained teacher”.

Ant – you are right!

ant ant 12:04 pm 06 Jun 08

I think that restlessheart’s post reflects the complicated nature of what this man and others do to their victims. Others have written here that this man preyed on their affections, as well as their bodies. Probably for many, he just stopped at affections, or even “friendship”. A shame he didn’t stop there with all the boys.

Mick1965 Mick1965 11:51 am 06 Jun 08

restlessheart1,
It’s comforting to me that you did not suffer at the hands of Kostka. But (as a trained teacher I ask) – isn’t that just normal? I am concerned that you are speaking for the other boys you knew because it’s more than likely he WAS having a go at them. I am also a little confused by your timeline because I am almost positive he taught in QLD before Canberra.
Anyway – what ARE you trying to say? Are you saying he’s not all bad and not everyone got a handful of his cock because we know that already?

Canberra Gardener Canberra Gardener 8:36 am 06 Jun 08

Thank’s for your post. Although I don’t suspect you will gain much support within this forum, it is important that alternate views are posted and shared. The communication is growing amongst victims, and non victims alike. Thanks again.

restlessheart1 restlessheart1 9:28 pm 05 Jun 08

Br Kostka taught me at a little school in Hunters Hill in Sydney in 1965. I have a brother one year younger, and he taught him there as well, then was transferred to ACT.
I’ve read most of the above posts and agree with a lot of them. This whole business has bought a lot of memories back.
He was a “touchy” teacher – always putting his arm around your shoulder to explain thing. He did have his class favourites, and there were 2 or 3 that he would sometimes sit on his lap while he talked the rest of the class. He wasn’t violent in the punishment sense (believe me, some of those bastards were in those days….).
It is ironic that his criminal exploits finally came to light when he was discovered running some sort of drop-in centre for boys at the Marist Retirement Home, because he was always organizing groups of kids for special purposes like painting outside school hours, and I was usually involved because I liked him and he taught me a lot. In fact he turned me from a kid who couldn’t draw at all to one who later won prizes for art. And I’m certain he never tried anything sexual on any of us!
I’m in my fifties, a lawyer, married and a father of three. I’ve never been molested by Kostka or by anyone else. I’m following what’s happening now with sadness, but I’m glad to say that I have a lot of good things to remember him for.

dazednconfused1 dazednconfused1 5:52 am 23 May 08

I have just figured out that the orginal post disappears when I log in. Everything is fine just beforehand. But when I log out again, the story still displays incorrectly.

dazednconfused1 dazednconfused1 5:16 pm 22 May 08

If the problem becomes intractible it might be best to repost your orginal in a new thread and call it part 2 perhaps? As a last resort?

Canberra Gardener Canberra Gardener 7:25 am 22 May 08

Yesterday at 2pm it worked for me, but I was on another pc. Then last night it wasn’t working again. The mystery continues.

dazednconfused1 dazednconfused1 10:01 pm 21 May 08

That is really curious. when I looked at it before. Just before posting my last message it looked fine. Now the problem is back just like before.

sepi sepi 7:34 pm 21 May 08

I get this on the very long threads.

The comments run out halfway down, and there is a big gray box at the bottom of the screen.

el el 7:31 pm 21 May 08

Might be worth upgrading to Firefox. By crikey that’s a long thread, but it loads perfectly in Firefox 3 on both Windows (XP) and MacOS (10.5.2) machines.

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