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Front Gardens/Yards in the ACT … Appearance

By TwainAndHume 12 February 2013 86

Anyone know the rules/regulations/requirements that apply to the maintenance of front gardens/yards of private properties in the suburbs of Canberra?  Or where to find such?  In our area I have begun to notice an increase in the number of private houses that seem to be using the front areas of the property for either the storage of derelict cars (I have counted up to nine such vehicles in the driveway and yard of one otherwise normal sized, detached porperty — only about three of which appear driveable), the long-term placing of mid-sized shipping containers, even in one case a derelict caravan that seems to have been in place long enough to have a small tree grow up through its body.  All these, however, are topped by the full-size, mobile crane that I have seen parked for ten years (with apparently never having been moved) in the front yard of a house in the suburb of Chifley.

The ACT government will jump pretty quickly when such situations are brought to their attention and which affect street verges.  However, I have been able to elicit little response from them when it comes to such situations as those described above.

The condition in which a neighbour keeps his or her property affects the property values of others living around the area.  It also impacts upon the general atmosphere of a street.  A tone begins to be set which can all too quickly bring all down and, again, has a considerable impact on property values.


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Pork Hunt 12:06 pm 16 Feb 13

dpm said :

Antagonist said :

TwainAndHume said :

Again, I thank the comments made by those who had something informative to pass along.

You are welcome. Now since you don’t have s***, you can get back to minding your own business. That might go a long way to addressing the “general atmosphere of a street” that you seem to have so much concern for.

We do I get the feeling we’d all love to see a pic of Antagonist’s front lawn? Or have we already?? Hahahaha!

Ah, but do hoarders know that they are hoarders?

dpm 10:18 am 16 Feb 13

Antagonist said :

TwainAndHume said :

Again, I thank the comments made by those who had something informative to pass along.

You are welcome. Now since you don’t have s***, you can get back to minding your own business. That might go a long way to addressing the “general atmosphere of a street” that you seem to have so much concern for.

We do I get the feeling we’d all love to see a pic of Antagonist’s front lawn? Or have we already?? Hahahaha!

Antagonist 12:36 am 16 Feb 13

TwainAndHume said :

Again, I thank the comments made by those who had something informative to pass along.

You are welcome. Now since you don’t have s***, you can get back to minding your own business. That might go a long way to addressing the “general atmosphere of a street” that you seem to have so much concern for.

Sandman 8:54 pm 15 Feb 13

Ghettosmurf87 said :

I must admit to being a tad bemused by this notion that other people in the surrounding neighbourhood have any sort of obligation to protect the re-sale value of someone else’s house?

Why do so many people believe they have a right to make a profit on a house? Are we all just looking to turn a buck on some property? Does no one actually buy a HOME anymore, a.k.a a place to live, raise your kids, form memories and call home?

You make a very valid point, and Canberra would have to be top of the pile for that mindset. Were the houses with the crappy front yards there when Donald Trump bought their place? Probably, which means they paid accordingly to account for the less than desireable neighbourhood that they now demand be cleaned up so that their cheap house value rises more.
It’s the old “Tralee Syndrome”. Buy a house under a flight path at cheaper price. Then complain about the flight path to get it moved and make Tralee more desireable and raise the value.

Sandman 8:43 pm 15 Feb 13

Holden Caulfield said :

…or Scrivener Street.

(cough!) Operating an auto repair business from home. (cough)

gazket 7:19 pm 15 Feb 13

smiling politely said :

Chop71 said :

Pics please or google map it so we can see

Pretty sure this is the place in Chifley with the crane that was referred to in the post. Has been a while now.

that’s public art right there at it’s best.

TwainAndHume 4:11 pm 15 Feb 13

“I must admit to being a tad bemused by this notion that other people in the surrounding neighbourhood have any sort of obligation to protect the re-sale value of someone else’s house?

“Why do so many people believe they have a right to make a profit on a house? Are we all just looking to turn a buck on some property? Does no one actually buy a HOME anymore, a.k.a a place to live, raise your kids, form memories and call home?”

I think that if you look back into history since the Great Depression in the 1930s, in most parts of the Western World (if not many other areas of the world as well) house (or home) prices have almost consistently risen. So, after eighty years of such experience, it is not that people think they have a “right” for their property to increase in value, it is just that it generally has … just as salaries have increased to a great extent as well. Most people aren’t moving every four years in order to try and make instant profits on rising house prices.

And, no, I don’t think anyone has “an obligation” in a surrounding area to “protect” an individual’s property value, but that is just a “given”… the tone and level of maintenance in an area has an impact on general property values in that area. You can have an upward spiral or a downward spiral impacting an area.

Ghettosmurf87 8:49 am 15 Feb 13

I must admit to being a tad bemused by this notion that other people in the surrounding neighbourhood have any sort of obligation to protect the re-sale value of someone else’s house?

Why do so many people believe they have a right to make a profit on a house? Are we all just looking to turn a buck on some property? Does no one actually buy a HOME anymore, a.k.a a place to live, raise your kids, form memories and call home?

Admittedly however, most people getting into the housing market in the newer Gungahlin suburbs should have no worries about these sorts of experiences as the lack of a yard to start with should prevent it becoming overgrown or inhabited with derelict goods & vehicles.

DrKoresh 10:42 pm 14 Feb 13

TwainAndHume said :

Though not religious, I have often thought that one of the few valuable concepts any religion can pass along (or any philosophy for that matter) to people is to treat others as you would want to be treated. That goes with showing some thought for others in the area of how your actions (or non-actions) either negatively or positively impact the person living next to you … the person living further along your street … the person merely passing by.

I think Poetix nailed it on the head about this one, but even if we take this “do unto others” idea at face value, aren’t your more unkempt neighbours merely letting you know they wouldn’t be bothered if your yard looked like theirs? “Do unto others” does not translate into “Everyone should do as I do”.

dpm 10:24 pm 14 Feb 13

Duffbowl said :

bugmenot said :

Passed a house & whitegoods graveyard in Kaleen years ago. The backyard was only half full then, but google maps shows it has gotten stacks worse since then: http://goo.gl/maps/hrDar

Street view is impressive:
http://goo.gl/maps/8eBfo

He’s reasonably well known as a second hand dealer for white goods. My understanding is that he turns over a fair amount of stock.

Who wouldn’t love buying a fridge/washing machine/filing cabinet that had been stored out in the rain and elements for god knows how long?!? Maybe Bing Lee etc could all save some building rent $ and open their next store in a paddock? Or the franchisee’s own yard? Probably need to be in one of the older suburbs, with a bigger block though…. Hahahaha!

Masquara 9:15 pm 14 Feb 13

poetix said :

I do hope that you win the trashy, ugly, glued together Mully. That would be delightful.

Hear hear! Looks to me like the dude in the house is earning an honest living fixing and selling whitegoods. Sustainable … environmentally sound and all that. The items look organised and clean. There’s no trash. (And if there was, well, folks are free to have messy yards in a free society! Go to Singapore or a gated community in the Gold Coast hinterland if you want compulsory clean yards!)

poetix 7:51 pm 14 Feb 13

TwainAndHume said :

Appreciate the constructive comments to the initial post … as for some of the others, hmmmmm …

The point was not really anything to do with gardening standards or even maintenance of front gardens to any particular level (actually we have all natives and except for a couple of times a year, minimal maintenance is required). Or even temporary storage of either vehicles or whatnot in the front garden (yard) areas. It just seems logical that there would be some community procedure (short of 20-year lawsuits) to impress on occupiers or owners that what they do (or don’t do) to their public viewable areas of their homes impacts others.

A home is probably the largest investment most any of us will make in our lives. It forms a major source of any real wealth most people have. To have that negatively impacted because someone just can’t see that the front garden should not be a derelict car lot, a white goods business storeyard, or whatnot to my mind basically shows no sense of community whatsoever.

Though not religious, I have often thought that one of the few valuable concepts any religion can pass along (or any philosophy for that matter) to people is to treat others as you would want to be treated. That goes with showing some thought for others in the area of how your actions (or non-actions) either negatively or positively impact the person living next to you … the person living further along your street … the person merely passing by.

Again, I thank the comments made by those who had something informative to pass along.

You do realise that you are praising the people who kept the thread nice and neat in exactly the same way that you want all the gardens nice and neat? Bit of a thing you’ve got going there…

And Jesus wasn’t talking about retaining walls and tasteful letter boxes, when he talked about loving your neighbour. Though he could probably have made a very nice cubby house, if he had wanted to.

I do hope that you win the trashy, ugly, glued together Mully. That would be delightful.

GardeningGirl 5:50 pm 14 Feb 13

TwainAndHume said :

The point was not really anything to do with gardening standards or even maintenance of front gardens to any particular level (actually we have all natives and except for a couple of times a year, minimal maintenance is required).

Let’s have a native vs exotic debate! Joking, joking, really, let’s NOT.

TwainAndHume said :

A home is probably the largest investment most any of us will make in our lives. It forms a major source of any real wealth most people have. To have that negatively impacted because someone just can’t see that the front garden should not be a derelict car lot, a white goods business storeyard, or whatnot to my mind basically shows no sense of community whatsoever.

+1
Not only wealth but your ability to free it up when needed. The real estate agent for a previous house told me a situation comparatively minor compared to yours would not affect the price much if at all but it would increase the number of potential buyers who would walk away as soon as they saw it.
(And the level of consumer protection for the quality of your largest purchase ought to be better too. There’s a whole nuther thread there too.)

TwainAndHume said :

Though not religious, I have often thought that one of the few valuable concepts any religion can pass along (or any philosophy for that matter) to people is to treat others as you would want to be treated. That goes with showing some thought for others in the area of how your actions (or non-actions) either negatively or positively impact the person living next to you … the person living further along your street … the person merely passing by.

+ 1,000,000

Pork Hunt 4:23 pm 14 Feb 13

TwainAndHume said :

Appreciate the constructive comments to the initial post … as for some of the others, hmmmmm …

Again, I thank the comments made by those who had something informative to pass along.

Not a problem, my pleasure.

DrKoresh 3:56 pm 14 Feb 13

LSWCHP said :

Mrs LSWCHP frequently whinges about the old bloke next door who has two derelict cars rotting in his driveway.

I’ll now be able to show her the Delegate St Disaster and tell her to suck it up. It always ends so well when I tell her to suck it up!

Sounds like this story will have a sticky end…

devils_advocate 2:39 pm 14 Feb 13

54-11 said :

Robertson said :

johnboy said :

This house no has a story of its own.

This one in Wanniassa has been through some ups and downs:
http://goo.gl/maps/mvYOS

Although my favourite always has been this one in Narrabundah:
http://goo.gl/maps/XiWGH

This one in Ainslie was an impressive hoard of scrap metal covering the entire back yard in a 2m-high collection punctuated by narrow winding walkways:
http://goo.gl/maps/R8FR6
Looks like his neighbour has caught the bug…

And I suspect a family connection here in Kambah:
http://goo.gl/maps/ziXd6

Geez, there really are a lot of anti-social cretins in this city.

of those the ‘Bundah and wanniassa ones would justifiy resident concern. The others don’t seem to have much if any visual impact from the street – they’re just a bit messy.

TwainAndHume 1:33 pm 14 Feb 13

Appreciate the constructive comments to the initial post … as for some of the others, hmmmmm …

The point was not really anything to do with gardening standards or even maintenance of front gardens to any particular level (actually we have all natives and except for a couple of times a year, minimal maintenance is required). Or even temporary storage of either vehicles or whatnot in the front garden (yard) areas. It just seems logical that there would be some community procedure (short of 20-year lawsuits) to impress on occupiers or owners that what they do (or don’t do) to their public viewable areas of their homes impacts others.

A home is probably the largest investment most any of us will make in our lives. It forms a major source of any real wealth most people have. To have that negatively impacted because someone just can’t see that the front garden should not be a derelict car lot, a white goods business storeyard, or whatnot to my mind basically shows no sense of community whatsoever.

Though not religious, I have often thought that one of the few valuable concepts any religion can pass along (or any philosophy for that matter) to people is to treat others as you would want to be treated. That goes with showing some thought for others in the area of how your actions (or non-actions) either negatively or positively impact the person living next to you … the person living further along your street … the person merely passing by.

Again, I thank the comments made by those who had something informative to pass along.

cleo 1:58 am 14 Feb 13

Since your so concerned about the neighbours yard, you could offer to help clear it.

54-11 1:33 am 14 Feb 13

Robertson said :

johnboy said :

This house no has a story of its own.

This one in Wanniassa has been through some ups and downs:
http://goo.gl/maps/mvYOS

Although my favourite always has been this one in Narrabundah:
http://goo.gl/maps/XiWGH

This one in Ainslie was an impressive hoard of scrap metal covering the entire back yard in a 2m-high collection punctuated by narrow winding walkways:
http://goo.gl/maps/R8FR6
Looks like his neighbour has caught the bug…

And I suspect a family connection here in Kambah:
http://goo.gl/maps/ziXd6

Geez, there really are a lot of anti-social cretins in this city.

LSWCHP 9:15 pm 13 Feb 13

Mrs LSWCHP frequently whinges about the old bloke next door who has two derelict cars rotting in his driveway.

I’ll now be able to show her the Delegate St Disaster and tell her to suck it up. It always ends so well when I tell her to suck it up!

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