7 August 2012

Fully Sick Drag Race?

7 August 2012 | johnboy

2600inHD has made this contribution to YouTube with this note:

The RushhouR crew drag racing in Woden.

RushhouR is the ‘underground’ car club of Canberra. They consistantly participate in burnouts, drag-racing, drifting and other hoon related activities.

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Apoc2:26 pm 10 Aug 12

LSWCHP said :

19 year old Kimberley Conna in Sydney would probably be saddened if she could see this video right now. She might say “Don’t do that”. Unfortunately she can’t because she’s dead. According to witnesses, her and a friend were having a bit of a drag race this afternoon, and she and her friend put both their cars into a light pole at high speed. The cars burst into pieces and caught fire respectively.

Kimberley was 6 months pregnant when she died this afternoon, so there’s an added burden for the survivors to carry.

Kimberley’s boyfriend Kyle was in the car with her. He has massive head injuries and is not expected to survive. Not surprising, given the state of the vehicles after impact.

By a terrible coincidence, Kyle’s dad happened on the scene, and got out to help as a man would, not realising for a while that his son was in one of the mangled wrecks. The Daily Tele, with stunningly poetic elegance, described this terrible event as “A Sad Twist”. I can’t imagine the horror of coming upon one of my sons under these circumstances.

Apoc and friends, that’s the reality of what happens when things turn pear-shaped at speed. Think on it for a while and maybe reconsider the next time you feel the urge to press hard on that pedal. Check out the pictures of Kimberly and Kyle together when she was alive, and the stinking burnt out pile of crap she died in. It’s not pretty or glamorous. Remember that you are not bulletproof. This could happen to you.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/street-racing-claims-as-teen-dies-in-fiery-crash/story-e6freuy9-1226444260402

Again, RH is not a street racing group, to everyone talking about speed/racing etc RH is burnouts only.

She was at fault, we disagree with street racing for this very reason.

She was most likely road-educated around messages telling her blankly “Speeding kills”, “People die in car crashes” and “breaking the law gets you fines”.

However if young drivers were educated with things such as (rough example):
* Losing control of your vehicle can happen to anyone, speed increases the odds.
* Be aware and courteous to bad drivers as they do exist and can without warning slam on the brakes at a roundabout with no traffic for no reason at all (etc)
* Increased stress on tyres when cornering at speed can result in losing control of a vehicle
and show them some images of dead bodies in cars, add some shock factor in.

Honestly, the driver education and road awareness campaigns are not good enough, they have lost touch with the younger demographic. but if a select few can influence people to take actions to reduce their chances of being involved in a fatal accident we will take that opportunity where we can.

colourful sydney rac:
I have come on here to remind people that RH is not a street racing group, If I did answer your question – in the context you have asked it – I would not do it on a public forum for a start, However RH as a group offers a less public place to go, what people do when they get there is their own choice and are reminded that if they get caught they face a hefty fine, 3 month impound and minimum 3 month loss of license all included in the court summons package for a burnout.

VY_BerlinaV8 “If that’s the best you can do, then your best isn’t good enough.”
Well do better? get as much influence as we have and put it to good use?

As for everyone blankly stating “what you do is encourage people to break the law”
laws are designed to keep the community safe and to maintain fairness right? if we are partaking in activities away from the community and we by choice choose to be there, who are we harming?

I have already stated that no place exists to legally to do it at convenience, its a simple act, Why would I drive 4 hours to Western Sydney Dragway on a Wednesday after work to do a 1 to 5 minute burnout and drive back?

vg “What’s your address…..or don’t like it???”
LOL tough keyboard guy, there is always one.. happy to talk one on one, if you feel that strongly that you wish to take a swing, then take a swing and we will go from there, or you don’t like it?

cranky7:37 pm 09 Aug 12

rhino said :

I agree with this completely. I’m keen for a drag strip, track and burnout area and/or better skidpan, but I think all things should ultimately be funded privately. I’d happily pay to use it. The last one was working that way, so a new one could too. Some government start up money or loan would be good though and it’d be fair since hte government is to blame for there not being one until now. If there weren’t all the laws and regulations about it, they would have made one already

The history detailed above is much as I recollect.

However, this history should be updated, and the determination of the wretched Stanhope to ensure this facility must never proceed should be detailed.

Stanhope Labor promised in the (2004?)election leadup that they would commit $8m towards the construction costs of a replacement dragstrip. On re-election, the money appeared in the budget, but Sonic arranged for the noise limits for motorsport to be lowered to such limits that no competition could legally take place. With that problem solved, the money was quietly returned to consolidated revenue about 2 budgets later.

Apart from the AMP, no other group has indicated any willingness to proceed with any motorsport facilities. I’d love to hear other parties policies on this subject.

Deref7:15 pm 09 Aug 12

“Fully sick”? Well, I’d probably say “very sick”, but yeah.

Antagonist6:23 pm 09 Aug 12

qbngeek said :

I also think a long strip of tarmac next to an active runway might be a bit confusing …

You mean like the existing tarmac taxiways that have not been confusing pilots for several decades now ???

bundah5:40 pm 09 Aug 12

rhino said :

qbngeek said :

Much better. Now onto the important issue that I do actually agree that the original dragway was taken away unfairly and I have no issue with another being built. The matter of funding it is a different story as I beleive it should be self funding like the old one was, even if the government was to loan the money somehow to have it built and then it gets paid back. I also think a long strip of tarmac next to an active runway might be a bit confusing but there is plenty of space on Majura Range that Defence don’t use along Sutton Road.

I agree with this completely. I’m keen for a drag strip, track and burnout area and/or better skidpan, but I think all things should ultimately be funded privately. I’d happily pay to use it. The last one was working that way, so a new one could too. Some government start up money or loan would be good though and it’d be fair since hte government is to blame for there not being one until now. If there weren’t all the laws and regulations about it, they would have made one already

Ah yes politicians what can one say except that integrity has always played second fiddle to deception if it suits their purpose!

rhino5:24 pm 09 Aug 12

qbngeek said :

Much better. Now onto the important issue that I do actually agree that the original dragway was taken away unfairly and I have no issue with another being built. The matter of funding it is a different story as I beleive it should be self funding like the old one was, even if the government was to loan the money somehow to have it built and then it gets paid back. I also think a long strip of tarmac next to an active runway might be a bit confusing but there is plenty of space on Majura Range that Defence don’t use along Sutton Road.

I agree with this completely. I’m keen for a drag strip, track and burnout area and/or better skidpan, but I think all things should ultimately be funded privately. I’d happily pay to use it. The last one was working that way, so a new one could too. Some government start up money or loan would be good though and it’d be fair since hte government is to blame for there not being one until now. If there weren’t all the laws and regulations about it, they would have made one already

qbngeek4:41 pm 09 Aug 12

bundah said :

qbngeek said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

Now that you mention runway 30,which i believe is the smaller one that runs almost parallel to the old dragway approx 100 metres apart,i do recall that there was concern by some that pilots using that runway could potentially confuse it with the dragstrip. I also suspect that Snow wanted to keep his options open ie. possibly extending that runway with Defence approval and there was also talk of potentially using that area for a VFT down the track.In any case it was fairly clear to me that Snow’s attitude was the dragway had to go if he was buying the airport.

Okay, this is really annoying me and I can’t keep quiet any longer. I really need to point out one vital piece of information that renders some of the arguments here completely incorrect. It has also been pointed out in previous discussions about the airport.

Kate Carnell did not sell Canberra Airport as it was not hers to sell and more importantly it cannot be sold only leased. All Federal Airports are owned by the Commonwealth Government and were managed by the Federal Airports Corporation. In 1998 the Federales decided to shut down FAC and the airports were leased out on 50 year leases with a 49 year option.

Your point of clarification re that it was leased and not sold is noted and accepted however it changes absolutely nothing in relation to what transpired ie. Snow paid for the rights to lease the airport to the tune of about $45m and that he effectively brought about the demise of the dragway.Happy now?

Much better. Now onto the important issue that I do actually agree that the original dragway was taken away unfairly and I have no issue with another being built. The matter of funding it is a different story as I beleive it should be self funding like the old one was, even if the government was to loan the money somehow to have it built and then it gets paid back. I also think a long strip of tarmac next to an active runway might be a bit confusing but there is plenty of space on Majura Range that Defence don’t use along Sutton Road.

dpm10:20 am 09 Aug 12

I was walking along on the footpath near a (traffic light) intersection just after 5pm last night when I heard a V8 turning right through the intersection give it a bootful, with engine roaring and wheels spinning away. Next I hear the squeal of brakes and a loud crunch!
So, I run over to see if everyone is OK, and there is a lone boy (maybe about 18?) already talking on his phone (probably to mum or dad) while standing next to his/their car, which he had spun and put arse first into the barrier at the side of the road.
The road was dry and those lights have a green ‘arrow’ for that turn (like all intersections in Cbr seem to!), so minimal need to accelerate through the corner like he did.
Anyway, I wonder if he has learnt his lesson about driving like the road is a racetrack – especially when the road was quite busy with everyone on their way home? He looked very sheepish standing there with his car facing the wrong way while the traffic drove past him! That’s the sort of thing that really stuffs up your day.
We’ve all done stupid things like this in our yoof I suppose. In this case, thankfully, it looked like a better way for him to learn a lesson than by wrapping himself (and others) around a tree. Kids these days……! 😉

bundah10:07 am 09 Aug 12

qbngeek said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

Now that you mention runway 30,which i believe is the smaller one that runs almost parallel to the old dragway approx 100 metres apart,i do recall that there was concern by some that pilots using that runway could potentially confuse it with the dragstrip. I also suspect that Snow wanted to keep his options open ie. possibly extending that runway with Defence approval and there was also talk of potentially using that area for a VFT down the track.In any case it was fairly clear to me that Snow’s attitude was the dragway had to go if he was buying the airport.

Okay, this is really annoying me and I can’t keep quiet any longer. I really need to point out one vital piece of information that renders some of the arguments here completely incorrect. It has also been pointed out in previous discussions about the airport.

Kate Carnell did not sell Canberra Airport as it was not hers to sell and more importantly it cannot be sold only leased. All Federal Airports are owned by the Commonwealth Government and were managed by the Federal Airports Corporation. In 1998 the Federales decided to shut down FAC and the airports were leased out on 50 year leases with a 49 year option.

Your point of clarification re that it was leased and not sold is noted and accepted however it changes absolutely nothing in relation to what transpired ie. Snow paid for the rights to lease the airport to the tune of about $45m and that he effectively brought about the demise of the dragway.Happy now?

qbngeek9:37 am 09 Aug 12

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

Now that you mention runway 30,which i believe is the smaller one that runs almost parallel to the old dragway approx 100 metres apart,i do recall that there was concern by some that pilots using that runway could potentially confuse it with the dragstrip. I also suspect that Snow wanted to keep his options open ie. possibly extending that runway with Defence approval and there was also talk of potentially using that area for a VFT down the track.In any case it was fairly clear to me that Snow’s attitude was the dragway had to go if he was buying the airport.

Okay, this is really annoying me and I can’t keep quiet any longer. I really need to point out one vital piece of information that renders some of the arguments here completely incorrect. It has also been pointed out in previous discussions about the airport.

Kate Carnell did not sell Canberra Airport as it was not hers to sell and more importantly it cannot be sold only leased. All Federal Airports are owned by the Commonwealth Government and were managed by the Federal Airports Corporation. In 1998 the Federales decided to shut down FAC and the airports were leased out on 50 year leases with a 49 year option.

bundah9:05 am 09 Aug 12

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

Now that you mention runway 30,which i believe is the smaller one that runs almost parallel to the old dragway approx 100 metres apart,i do recall that there was concern by some that pilots using that runway could potentially confuse it with the dragstrip. I also suspect that Snow wanted to keep his options open ie. possibly extending that runway with Defence approval and there was also talk of potentially using that area for a VFT down the track.In any case it was fairly clear to me that Snow’s attitude was the dragway had to go if he was buying the airport.

RadioVK11:20 pm 08 Aug 12

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

bundah11:06 pm 07 Aug 12

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

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