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Garema Place – Heart of Darkness! Inconsiderate feeding of the poor to blame?

By johnboy 6 March 2009 57

CityNews is running a public safety scare on Garema Place with an unusual culprit:

    Jude Cohen, owner of Bardelli’s Café, is right in the middle of the trouble.

    “There was someone stabbed in the face just the other week,” he says. “There is a core group of about 20 people who cause all the trouble, I think. I have spoken with the police about the possibility of the businesses here hiring a security guard.”

    Mr Cohen believes that the fact that charity organisations set up a few times a week, most notably on Friday evenings, in Garema Place, just metres away from his cafe is also a problem.

    “Don’t get me wrong, I respect the fact that these organisations are caring for the needy, but the giving away of free food in Garema Place simply attracts problems.

    What’s the cycle on these end-of-civilisation-in-Garema-Place stories? Every five years?

    Personally I’ve seen the place looking better over the years, but I’ve seen it worse, and emptier too. At the end of the day Civic’s focus has been shifted over to Bunda Street and that’s going to create an uncomfortable period of adjustment.

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peterh 10:22 am 11 Mar 09

GB said :

Jim Jones said :

Yeah, bashing people is always a great start to reducing crime.

Absolutely. Illegally bashing people is particularly effective at reducing rates of violent crime.

LOL!!

Illegally bashing people = violent crime.

Garema will always be a congregation area for these people. maybe they should have thought about that after building on the griffin centre’s site and removing the youth centre, the red cross soup kitchen and the brightly lit and open areas….

jakez 9:43 am 11 Mar 09

poptop said :

LOL at Starscream. If you can’t take it, don’t be dishing it, sweetie.

Stand-out memory for me – dealing with a mother whose 18 month old child got a needle stick injury and so was waiting for the first HIV and Hep tests to happen, knowing she would have to wait 6 months and another test to find out if her baby had picked up an infection.

The crap about drugs being “victimless crime” make me seriously annoyed. Anyone who deals with addicts knows there is nothing but victims until you get very near the top of the tree. Most dealers are just more addicts paying for their habit.

It’s a victimless crime because their is no initiation of force. The person I mentioned above actively made a choice. They are still making choices, and they now have to face the consequences of the choices they are making.

Their choice is different from theft, rape, assault, murder. You don’t choose to have any of those done to you. Do drug addicts hurt other people? Absolutely they can and often do, and we have names for those crimes already. I wholeheartedly support those crimes remaining crimes.

GB 9:32 am 11 Mar 09

Jim Jones said :

Yeah, bashing people is always a great start to reducing crime.

Absolutely. Illegally bashing people is particularly effective at reducing rates of violent crime.

A sensible course of action would be that every time someone shouts ‘kill the b*stards’ on talkback or online, a special response group could leap into action and implement the death penalty immediately. No messy thinking involved. And then forums like this could focus on hysteria and tantrums, instead of being diverted into so-called ‘discussions’ where people change their minds.

Jim Jones 9:16 am 11 Mar 09

Yeah, bashing people is always a great start to reducing crime.

It’s been so effective in other countries, like Makebelieveastan.

PBO 8:47 am 11 Mar 09

vg said :

“When was the last time that you had to help out someone who had just been stabbed four times with a syringe in civic? Or had to see a junkie get his hand cut in half out front of Ali Baba just because he sold someone a bad deal? Or even had to help an old lady at the bus interchange who was about to be bashed because she said no to ice addicts demanding cash?”

Do you really think its a good idea to play ‘my dog is blacker than yours’ on this forum? You never know who you might be speaking to

I realise that vg, but it would also be nice if you and your friends were a bit more proactive in dealing with the scumbags in civic. I realise that you have a very hard job to do and the law is not necessarily on your side most of the time, but what does it take to grab a few of these guys and take them behind baileys corner and whomp a few?

farnarkler 5:01 pm 10 Mar 09

So vg how would you solve the drug problem in Civic?

farnarkler 5:00 pm 10 Mar 09

Oh. I thought ML was a law abiding citizen. How wrong I was.

vg 4:55 pm 10 Mar 09

“When was the last time that you had to help out someone who had just been stabbed four times with a syringe in civic? Or had to see a junkie get his hand cut in half out front of Ali Baba just because he sold someone a bad deal? Or even had to help an old lady at the bus interchange who was about to be bashed because she said no to ice addicts demanding cash?”

Do you really think its a good idea to play ‘my dog is blacker than yours’ on this forum? You never know who you might be speaking to

Starscream 4:32 pm 10 Mar 09

FC said :

Starscream said :

I was not actually suggesting anything. More like airing my thoughts that i would not care if all junkies and dealers suddenly died.

would it make a difference if it was one of your relatives or friends. Would you like to see them have a chance to get clean, or you’d just go kill them. What if you had an injury and then started taking pain killers for them pain , and progressed from there to becomining an addict.. sorry, you must die now too.
Many people who have gone through addition come out the other end and go on to be much more valuable members of society than a lot of straight laced black and white seeing people.

I agree with Pommy bastard’s comment – when do they deserve to die – after they pick up their first bong at 13years old? should they die?
Or what about the person that puts the first needle in their arm trying to forget about the trauma of being raped by a family member but not feeling able to tell anyone about it. yep – they’d better die too, cocroach scum..

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Yes i would certainly go and kill anyone i knew that was on drugs, even no doze and panadol.

But in all seriosness, i hate junkies and drug dealers.

PBO 4:24 pm 10 Mar 09

farnarkler said :

PBO ex MIL? I have a goodfriend who is ex MIL. What happened to Michael Lawrence?

It is the dealers who should have pressure put on them. What stops the police finding out who the dealers are and stopping them???

As far as i know, he is having the inside of his ass pressure tested in Goulburn Jail.

farnarkler 4:17 pm 10 Mar 09

PBO ex MIL? I have a goodfriend who is ex MIL. What happened to Michael Lawrence?

It is the dealers who should have pressure put on them. What stops the police finding out who the dealers are and stopping them???

Mr Evil 2:49 pm 10 Mar 09

AngryHenry said :

Starscream is a fascist.

Is that you Passy????

AngryHenry 2:01 pm 10 Mar 09

Starscream is a fascist.

poptop 1:46 pm 10 Mar 09

LOL at Starscream. If you can’t take it, don’t be dishing it, sweetie.

Stand-out memory for me – dealing with a mother whose 18 month old child got a needle stick injury and so was waiting for the first HIV and Hep tests to happen, knowing she would have to wait 6 months and another test to find out if her baby had picked up an infection.

The crap about drugs being “victimless crime” make me seriously annoyed. Anyone who deals with addicts knows there is nothing but victims until you get very near the top of the tree. Most dealers are just more addicts paying for their habit.

PBO 8:59 am 10 Mar 09

DJ said :

PBO said :

I myself blame the lack of initiative by police in that area. I was a security guard at a nameless Govt dept located at Garema court and i would see crime and dealing all day long. I would see the same group of about 20 or so regulars every day doing the same things, from the man who walks around yelling, the sudanese drug dealers or the Lady who sells heroin from her pram who thinks that no one notices.

I have asked the Police in the past what they are doing about it and they said that if they do not see it they cannot act on heresay. I think that a couple of large civic minded individuals patrolling Garema is a great idea and business’s should get behind it.

And dont think that i have forgotten about the Emo’s.

PBO, how good are you that you see all this crime and as a good citzen pass it on? You must be disheartened that nothing happens. Hang on, didn’t you get the memo from Police that your information was invaluable and as a result you saved the world! C’mon, seriously are you suggesting that civic minded individuals patrolling is the answer?

Former Chubb Guard with some issues? I think so.

Actually, I am a former MIL Guard and i did have some issues with what was going on and peoples lack of iniative to do anything about it. Maybe if people were a little more civic minded we would not have to think twice about going to civic. When was the last time that you had to help out someone who had just been stabbed four times with a syringe in civic? Or had to see a junkie get his hand cut in half out front of Ali Baba just because he sold someone a bad deal? Or even had to help an old lady at the bus interchange who was about to be bashed because she said no to ice addicts demanding cash?

So yes, I am a former guard with some issues.

FC 8:40 am 10 Mar 09

Starscream said :

I was not actually suggesting anything. More like airing my thoughts that i would not care if all junkies and dealers suddenly died.

would it make a difference if it was one of your relatives or friends. Would you like to see them have a chance to get clean, or you’d just go kill them. What if you had an injury and then started taking pain killers for them pain , and progressed from there to becomining an addict.. sorry, you must die now too.
Many people who have gone through addition come out the other end and go on to be much more valuable members of society than a lot of straight laced black and white seeing people.

I agree with Pommy bastard’s comment – when do they deserve to die – after they pick up their first bong at 13years old? should they die?
Or what about the person that puts the first needle in their arm trying to forget about the trauma of being raped by a family member but not feeling able to tell anyone about it. yep – they’d better die too, cocroach scum..

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Starscream 6:38 am 10 Mar 09

I was not actually suggesting anything. More like airing my thoughts that i would not care if all junkies and dealers suddenly died.

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