Gus’ feels the sting of the Silo laws as Health launches a crackdown

johnboy 10 March 2012 49

prohibition order

Dark rumours about the kitchen at the iconic Gus’ cafe in Civic are older than this website.

But Kyle has sent in this pic showing us what the new public naming of defective food service regime will look like.

Now can we extend this to the legal and medical professions?

UPDATE 10/03/12 10:40 It appears this is part of a wider crackdown applying hitherto little known standards. If you see more prohibition orders around town send them in to images@the-riotact.com .


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MissChief MissChief 5:44 pm 13 Mar 12

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/popular-cafes-fail-hygiene-standards-20120309-1uq6j.html

Unclean, food at the wrong temperature and compromising clean hands doesn’t sound like wear and tear to me.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 4:46 pm 13 Mar 12

Pork Hunt said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

madamcholet said :

Interesting that two Canberra “institutions” have been caught in recent times! Never been there myself, but have heard people mention it as if it is the holy grail.

Same, every second person i knew had a love for Gus’s as if it were heaven – so i went one day. It was horrible!! – i don’t know why people thought it was great. Coffee was disgusting and the food worse – i didn’t finish either and had to pay an arm and a leg for it – never again! – glad i like the way i make my own coffee at home hehe

I added an extra s in”Gus’ ” there by accident – don’t get your grammer nazi knickers in a twist 😛

You spelled ‘grammar’ incorrectly…

+ you were technically correct when you added the extra s…

devils_advocate devils_advocate 4:38 pm 13 Mar 12

I have a strong dislike of food poisoning. I support the direction these laws are heading in.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 4:18 pm 13 Mar 12

Intersting that they have plastered up on their window a large photocopy of a newspaper article bemoaning how penalty rates will roon us all…nice attempted dodge there.

I-filed I-filed 7:47 pm 12 Mar 12

Holden Caulfield said :

Furry Jesus said :

…underpaid and cash in hand…

Surely that comment could apply to virtually every hospitality related business in Canberra, and probably Australia, at the time and well beyond.

Gus’s was extreme though. e.g. He paid $5 an hour on Christmas night after midnight, and sacked staff who wouldn’t work those holiday shifts. One Chinese student worker he exploited in the 1980s was hospitalised after working 21 nights in a row – 2 pm to 1 am. She was shipped home with a complete breakdown, without completing her studies.

farnarkler farnarkler 5:38 pm 12 Mar 12

I don’t think the authorities kept quite as keen an eye on eateries back in the late 70’s and early 80’s as they do now. Gus may’ve kept a dirty shop but his waffles with maple syrup and cream used to rock!! I’d have some after eating a taco at the green and white foodvan that used to park up the road at the servo. Yummy.

The cat did it The cat did it 1:25 pm 12 Mar 12

GardeningGirl said :

Isn’t there a street in Gungahlin named after him?

Gastro Crescent?

astrojax astrojax 1:07 pm 12 Mar 12

Bramina said :

milkman said :

Diggety said :

Banning people from their choices is a last resort, in this case it not necessary.

If people were smart enough to make goood choices then we wouldn’t have a highly regulated society in the first place. There are reasons that there are lots of things that many people think are safe that are against the law.

The problem is that politicians and public servants are people as well. Their choices in policy, laws are as bad as people’s every day ability to make choices.

you’re kidding, right? bureaucracies have strict protocols within which they operate and, whille government policies are often questionable, to suggest the operation of government is as random as the great unwashed is incredibly naive…

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 12:18 pm 12 Mar 12

Furry Jesus said :

…underpaid and cash in hand…

Surely that comment could apply to virtually every hospitality related business in Canberra, and probably Australia, at the time and well beyond.

GardeningGirl GardeningGirl 11:29 am 12 Mar 12

Isn’t there a street in Gungahlin named after him?

Mysteryman Mysteryman 11:21 am 12 Mar 12

I’m glad they got done. I think that was one of the worst cafes I’ve ever been to. Their food was crap and their service was worse. I have no idea why people thought otherwise.

Furry Jesus Furry Jesus 9:57 am 12 Mar 12

Gus’s underwent renovations a while back but for some reason never changed the furniture arrangements indoors, easily one of the least comfortable in Canberra. Staff who think talking to each other is a better use of their time than checking out customer tables to see if service is called for, bad coffee, but some of the regular menu is good enough (lentil burgers, leg ham on rye). Not enough to keep me coming back though.

My ex worked at Gus’s with the great man many years ago. Treated the girls appallingly, underpaid and cash in hand. The only reason he pushed for sidewalk tables was to get more customers and make more money. I’m sure he enjoyed the publicity and the support.

Bramina Bramina 9:09 am 12 Mar 12

milkman said :

Diggety said :

Banning people from their choices is a last resort, in this case it not necessary.

If people were smart enough to make goood choices then we wouldn’t have a highly regulated society in the first place. There are reasons that there are lots of things that many people think are safe that are against the law.

The problem is that politicians and public servants are people as well. Their choices in policy, laws are as bad as people’s every day ability to make choices.

astrojax astrojax 8:03 am 12 Mar 12

HenryBG said :

The good thing about Gus wasn’t his food or his coffee, it was the fact he refused to take s*** from brainless, unimaginative, rulebound government bureaucrats – he fought them and he won.

Before Gus, there wasn’t a single cafe in Canberra with outdoor tables on the pavement.

Not many people in this town have been as instrumental in effecting visible change as Gus was.

agreed, this was a great thing he did, but it is no reason to then go on and serve awful, over-priced fare at these outdoor seats and be a dick with it; and certainly no reason to not cop it sweet if the health inspectors find the facility not up to scratch…

I-filed I-filed 8:07 pm 11 Mar 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

Did the police know about it? because the ACT has this law (that i love personally) where a girl at the age of 16 can only have a partner 2 yrs older or 2 yrs younger – thats it!. Old men will get into trouble if the want to have a “relationship” ( i don’t think it should be refered to as a relationship if she is 16 and he was well over the age of 20) with a younger person who is under the age of 18 – and so they should dirty old codgers.

What is extraordinary is that the girl grew up to be very normal. She still lives in Canberra in an unpretentious inner-city house, and is married with kids. She definitely made a lot of money courtesy of Gus (she co-managed Gus’s with Gus for several years; she was wearing shoes at 16 that would cost more than $1,000 today, and European designer clothes). Interestingly, Gus dropped her! If you want a rather strong indicator as to Gus’s predelictions, he felt she was way too old for him by the time she was 19!

TheDancingDjinn TheDancingDjinn 7:03 pm 11 Mar 12

I-filed said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

SnapperJack said :

Stevian said :

c_c said :

SnapperJack said :

Not to mention his pedophile activities with under age girls

Um, can we get a source on this claim. I couldn’t find anything to back this up and that’s a very serious accusation.

If it’s true and verifiable, then I certainly hope they rip up that monument to him in the pavement near the cafe.

You’ll probably find that was an attempt at satire, and since the best satire is indistinguishable from reality, it seems to have succeeded

I note Stevian continuing his tradition of silly postings on RA.

When the issue of Gus was raised previously on RA, someone posted that Gus had maintained a sexual relationship with a then 13 year old girl who was close to her. When her parents went to the authorities they were told not to bother pursuing the case because “it is Gus and nobody will believe you”.

That’s all the proof I need.

Your proof is that someone typed it on the internet? – wow let’s hope noone posts that you did something bad to a child then huh – because that’s all the proof we’ll need…

Gus commenced a live-in relationship with a student – I think from St Claire’s – when she was very young, certainly in her mid teens. When I met her she had been living in Gus’s house in Braddon with him in a de facto relationship for several years. She was a very bright and pretty girl – I still cannot fathom what she saw in him! The police absolutely hated Gus, like, hated him. I don’t know the basis for that hatred, but a nasty character who is somehow “untouchable” might well be hated by everyday local police. Remember, Gus was very, very rich on the proceeds of exploiting and underpaying his staff.

Did the police know about it? because the ACT has this law (that i love personally) where a girl at the age of 16 can only have a partner 2 yrs older or 2 yrs younger – thats it!. Old men will get into trouble if the want to have a “relationship” ( i don’t think it should be refered to as a relationship if she is 16 and he was well over the age of 20) with a younger person who is under the age of 18 – and so they should dirty old codgers.

Mr Evil Mr Evil 6:28 pm 11 Mar 12

Yeah Jessica, I’m sure ACT Health just closes places down for very little reason at all. Also, if she was aware of these ‘minor wear and tear issues’, then why didn’t she do something to address them earlier, before ACT Health had to step in and make her fix them?

After the Silo Bakery fiasco – where the owner cried that they were being picked on by ACT Health for ‘minor’ issues, whilst a number of people were in hospital after consuming tainted product from Silo – I think ACT Health has decided that it was time for a crackdown. And not before time too!

I wonder how many other cafes, takeaways and restaurants around Canberra will be burning the midnight oil cleaning up their establishments this weekend, before they too join the list of shame????

I-filed I-filed 6:18 pm 11 Mar 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

SnapperJack said :

Stevian said :

c_c said :

SnapperJack said :

Not to mention his pedophile activities with under age girls

Um, can we get a source on this claim. I couldn’t find anything to back this up and that’s a very serious accusation.

If it’s true and verifiable, then I certainly hope they rip up that monument to him in the pavement near the cafe.

You’ll probably find that was an attempt at satire, and since the best satire is indistinguishable from reality, it seems to have succeeded

I note Stevian continuing his tradition of silly postings on RA.

When the issue of Gus was raised previously on RA, someone posted that Gus had maintained a sexual relationship with a then 13 year old girl who was close to her. When her parents went to the authorities they were told not to bother pursuing the case because “it is Gus and nobody will believe you”.

That’s all the proof I need.

Your proof is that someone typed it on the internet? – wow let’s hope noone posts that you did something bad to a child then huh – because that’s all the proof we’ll need…

Gus commenced a live-in relationship with a student – I think from St Claire’s – when she was very young, certainly in her mid teens. When I met her she had been living in Gus’s house in Braddon with him in a de facto relationship for several years. She was a very bright and pretty girl – I still cannot fathom what she saw in him! The police absolutely hated Gus, like, hated him. I don’t know the basis for that hatred, but a nasty character who is somehow “untouchable” might well be hated by everyday local police. Remember, Gus was very, very rich on the proceeds of exploiting and underpaying his staff.

Dacquiri Dacquiri 6:16 pm 11 Mar 12

There’s a bit of interesting history here. It always used to be the case that a Prohibition Notice was posted for certain food standards breaches. There was a notorious case of egg sandwiches from a shop in Belconnen (no longer there) causing the food poisoning of 20-something people, including the daughter of an ACT MLA. However, the ACT’s Chief Medical Officer at the time was reluctant to issues prohibition notices because of the requirement that they be displayed. As a result, food businesses have had many years of getting away with poor practice, knowing that the chances of serious action were slight and that they could simply procrastinate and provide continual excuses, forcing inspectors to make upteen return visits. Launching a prosecution was always considered (and probably still is considered) a last resort, after the proprietor has been given every opportunity to comply with the requirements. I do not believe that inspectors are acting in a gung-ho manner — in fact, quite the opposite. These court cases are tieing up valuable resources when there are probably hundreds of food premises which only get inspected when a complaint is lodged. In many other cities, not only are there ‘scores on doors’ (which have led to decreases in cases of food poisoning), but customers can go to a searchable online database which displays information about premises’ inspection history; many also give proprietors the opportunity to explain any remedial action that has been taken. Why consumer advocates haven’t taken this up more vigorously is beyond me.

GardeningGirl GardeningGirl 6:07 pm 11 Mar 12

I was just reading that on the ABC and I thought her response was embarrassing. I don’t think the authorities would close her down for something that’s simply useful feedback, there must be more to it than that, and as a professional in the food industry shouldn’t she be aware of things in her own business before the authorities need to point it out to her anyway? As usual I’d like more details from both sides though.

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