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Highest Taxing Government in Australia

By paperboy - 15 April 2009 14

I forget now why we voted for Self Government back in the 80s.

Aah that’s right, we didn’t.

It was forced on us, by a Federal Government tired of paying for our ‘gold paved streets’.

Now, it seems, it’s coming back to bite us big time.

The Bureau of Statistics has reportedly [According to the ABC] found that personal taxes increased by more in the ACT than for any other state or territory last financial year. 9.4% more. And in spite of the relatively recent closure of so many schools.

As if the global economic crisis isn’t hurting enough, our unwanted pollies are taking more of our hard earned dollars.

Wonder how much we’d save if they were all councillors instead.

What’s Your opinion?


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14 Responses to
Highest Taxing Government in Australia
Woody Mann-Caruso 9:01 am 16 Apr 09

I’m going to guess that 3000 is your IQ to two decimal places, minus the decimal point.

TP 3000 11:30 pm 15 Apr 09

I forget now why we voted for Self Government back in the 80s

ACT Residents voted NO to self Government at every voting time. It was forced upon us by the Keating Government. So maybe someone needs to take the Commonwealth Government to court, as it is altering the constitution without the majority approval of Australian residents.

Fiona 10:48 pm 15 Apr 09

Spectra said :

That leaves the ACT up there with NSW

“Well if you take out the silver medallist that leaves bronze right up there with gold”.

But the bronze medalist is always so HAPPY, while the silver medalist sulks

Very Busy 2:57 pm 15 Apr 09

Spectra,

Apology accepted. – But –

Your “unfounded assumption” that I “didn’t know that at the time” has not been proved right and is in fact an “unfounded assumption”.

Spectra 2:41 pm 15 Apr 09

Very Busy: You’re right, sorry, you didn’t actually attempt to add any extra “facts”. That was my mistake – I was still a bit carried away with the number of mistakes made in the original post. I retract and apologise for that assertion.

What you did do, however, was claim that the ACT was “up there with NSW” without any basis other than relative rankings. Now granted, the numbers that were supplied later demonstrate that that is indeed the case, but you didn’t know that at the time. Having your unfounded assumption proved right doesn’t change the fact that it was an unfounded assumption.

Very Busy 1:50 pm 15 Apr 09

Spectra said :

That leaves the ACT up there with NSW

Reading in “facts” that aren’t there, just as the original poster did, is totally unhelpful.

#6 Spectra, I was responding to the facts presented at post #1 by WMC which I quoted in my post #5. According to the latest figures these facts ARE correct and are “there” if you would care to look for them. Misrepresenting my post is “totally unhelpful”

monomania 12:34 pm 15 Apr 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

I agree with pug at post#3. ACT has high income and low unemployment, which is why we would shoulder a higher tax burden per person. But it means we’re doing, on average, better than the rest of Australia. So who really cares?

I do. As someone whose income in real terms is decreasing any increase in taxes and the price of services such as electricity and water more rapidly reduces any disposable income than it would for those with higher and increasing incomes. And there are plenty of your fellow Canberrans in a far worse a situation.

This is an appalling misuse of statistics by the Neddy and don’t appear to be understood by the OP.

His information came from here

I could be wrong but the figures used are not personal taxes but total state and local government tax revenues per capita

Western Australia’s high level of $3470 was probably boosted by payroll tax paid by the mining industry. Ours of $3014 per head was the third highest and most likely to contain the lowest percentage of payroll tax.

No apology for repeating information. It took too long to write this comment.

hairy nosed wombat 12:17 pm 15 Apr 09

Here are the per capita figures, as taken from Taxation Revenue, Australia, 2007-08 on the ABS web site. The Commonwealth Government collects an average of $13,451 per person. This figure would include taxes levied against corporations, etc.

Then in order Western Australia collects an average of $3,470 (up from $3,223 in 2006-07) per person in state levied tax revenue.
NSW $3,083 ($2,977 in 2006-07)
ACT $3,014 ($2,756 in 2006-07)
Victoria $2,962 ($2,747 in 2006-07)
South Australia $2,796 ($2,590 in 2006-07)
Queensland $2,763 ($2,529 in 2006-07)
Northern Territory $2,128 ($2,030 in 2006-07)
Tasmania $2,122 ($1,946 in 2006-07)

so we are coming third, but first to second is a few lengths (or a few hundred dollars), and then it is a head (or one hundred dollars) between second, third and fourth.

Spectra 11:17 am 15 Apr 09

That leaves the ACT up there with NSW

“Well if you take out the silver medallist that leaves bronze right up there with gold”. What? The article makes no mention of how we compare in absolute terms. We could be taxing at half the level of NSW and still be in third place. Or all the states taxing less than us could be doing so only by a dollar or two a year. Or both. Reading in “facts” that aren’t there, just as the original poster did, is totally unhelpful.

Very Busy 10:03 am 15 Apr 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

‘Biggest increase’ does not equal ‘highest taxing government’ as your hysterical post claims. We’re still third behind WA and NSW.

OK, WA has a relatively small population covering a vast area of land. It would be reasonable to expect a slightly higher level of per capita taxation to cover higher infrastructure and government costs. That leaves the ACT up there with NSW. It does not surprise me one little bit that these two governments tax their residents so highly. How else would you expect them to pay for all their inefficiences and bungling. What I am more astonished about is the fact that these bumbling beaurocrats keep getting reelected.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 9:53 am 15 Apr 09

I agree with pug at post#3. ACT has high income and low unemployment, which is why we would shoulder a higher tax burden per person. But it means we’re doing, on average, better than the rest of Australia. So who really cares?

pug206gti 9:17 am 15 Apr 09

Would the fact Canberra has higher income per capita and lower unemployment also lead to higher levels of personal taxation? I’ve not looked at the raw data yet.

Spectra 9:07 am 15 Apr 09

Beat me to it, WMC. Blatantly false headlines like that do nothing to help your credibility or argument. Then to follow:

…found that personal taxes increased by more in the ACT than for any other state or territory last financial year. 9.4% more. And in spite of the relatively recent closure of so many schools.

No, they didn’t increase by “9.4% more”, they increased by 9.4%. Period. You can decide whether that’s better or worse, but it certainly isn’t the same.

Woody Mann-Caruso 8:57 am 15 Apr 09

‘Biggest increase’ does not equal ‘highest taxing government’ as your hysterical post claims. We’re still third behind WA and NSW.

I hope they closed your school – it seems to have failed you on the written comprehension front.

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