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How does one get to the National Community Day of Protest? (Assuming one wishes to)

By johnboy - 14 November 2005 46

Well tommorrow (today by the time most of you get to it) is the National Community Day of Protest (NCDP) against the proposed changes to Industrial Relations laws.

I don’t propose to debate the pros and cons extensively here (the Chamber of Commerce tellingly is keen, which indicates it is a step towards their long sought after slavery).

What is interesting, however, is the counterintuitive legalities being deployed by both the Government and the CPSU in trying to manipulate the size of the protests.

We covered the start of this last week but now loadedog has more.

Personally I regard taking sick leave if I’m not sick as fraud. But I don’t see why annual leave or flex can’t be used by free people in a free society wishing to associate freely.

UPDATED: Loadedog has more on the seemingly underhand tactics being used to keep Public Servants at their desks.\

FURTHER UPDATE: A little bird tells me DIMIA have issued a directive to dock the pay of everyone who attended today’s rally, despite them having pre-approved
leave.

ANOTHER UPDATE: A different bird brough word that DEH staff were directed not to take the day off unless they had a specific reason, other than attending the rally. Also AFFA staff were simply denied leave for today, even rec leave.

I think we can say, regardless of one’s views on the IR laws, that the Government has behaved immorally here.

What’s Your opinion?


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46 Responses to
How does one get to the National Community Day of Protest? (Assuming one wishes to)
annie 8:56 am 15 Nov 05

Gee I’m glad you want to be a journalist, Sam.

Seeing as how you’ve got such an open mind on so many issues, and you’re not set in your ways or anything like that.

BTW, personally I think these IR changes are crap and people should be entitled to protest. It’s disgraceful the way the government has rammed the legislation through the House of Reps and manipulated the media coverage.

But just remember these changes only cover award employees. 20% of the workforce are ALREADY on individual contracts, and they’ll continue to hang in the wind with no minimum wage and no safety net provisions.

ixnay_on_the_illpay 8:51 am 15 Nov 05

Then it sounds like these reforms’ll suit you just fine Maelinar.

I’ll see the rest of you at the racetrack.

Maelinar 8:45 am 15 Nov 05

If you really want to protest – QUIT.

Contracting pays much more than fulltime positions anyway.

homebrewed 8:10 am 15 Nov 05

i am off to protest against the erosion of union power! This is the final nail in the coffin of the union movement and I cannot let it happen!

How is one meant to join a union, become involved, and climb the greasy pole into an ALP safe seat? attend branch meetings? Unions must be preserved at all costs to ensure democracy is not restored to the ALP. To do so would risk presenting a credible alternative to the evil and dictatorial Howard minions.

I don’t know much about the legislation but goddamm, if the Comrade says it is a holiday for ACT public servants then it must be worth protesting.

Thumper 7:46 am 15 Nov 05

I indeed have grave worries about these new industrial laws. After living in the States where there apparently is no minimum wage and the gap between rich and poor is incredibly insurmountable, I don’t believe we need to have any great change.

I’m worried that young kids, older unemployed, and those in society less well off than most of us, but still willing to work, will be the ones who get shafted by all of this.

Those who choose not to work will still choose not to work. No difference. I would have thought a reform of the welfare system was more appropriate than the IR system.

Then again, by reforming IR one can then attack the welfare system which is a bloated sacred cow at the moment.

personally, I’m not going to protest as I think protests are a great big wank and generally seem to be a means for people to protest anything under the sun, not the issue at hand. However, i’m all for the protesters, as long as there is no violence whatsoever, which, is a rarity these days.

And although I believe Stanhope is grandstanding again by giving ACT public servants the day off, which is patently wrong, I do applaud his stand on the issue.

As I’ve mentioned on numerous times, i think John Howard is past his use by date. Pity these is no viable alternative.

Mr Evil 7:36 am 15 Nov 05

I hope that’s right, Ralph, because I don’t don’t want to see Aussie go down the path that NZ took with workplace agreements.

Maybe in five years Labor would’ve got their act together a bit better too?

Spectra 7:35 am 15 Nov 05

when the IR reforms fail to get through parliament…

Oh, how I wish I shared your optimism. My money says they’re pretty much a foregone conclusion.

I’ll still be at the protest, though.

ixnay_on_the_illpay 7:29 am 15 Nov 05

If IR reforms really get you ‘stressed’ or ‘depress’ the shit out of you JB, you could take a guilt free sick day without commiting minor fraud.

SGS – now you’ve layed your cards on the table, I’ll look forward to seeing your retraction on this site when the IR reforms fail to get through parliament…

Ralph 7:18 am 15 Nov 05

Well they reckon if the States take it to the high court then it could get tied up for at least 5 years – more than long enough to keep it a hot issue at the next election.

johnboy 7:12 am 15 Nov 05

I think if protests were limited to guaranteed chances of sucess we wouldn’t need to have them in the first place.

It is going to be a test of strength.

I suspect having it at the racecourse is to guarantee no hot heads try and storm parliament which would decide the issue in the government’s favour in the court of public opinion.

Mr Evil 7:08 am 15 Nov 05

Yes Sam, that’s right, just sit back and don’t bother doing anything because it’s all probably just a complete waste of time because nothing will change anyway. You have been listening to John Laws for far too long.

I like how Howard is so against people taking time off work to protest about something, but then doesn’t think twice about suggesting that employers should cut their staff some slack when the Ashes was on because people may be staying up late to watch the Test matches. Jesus, no wonder some countries don’t take Australia very seriously!

Slinky the Shocker 9:59 pm 14 Nov 05

By the way…why is the rally at the bloody racecourse? ‘Keep them feral workers out of the city’?

Tempestas 9:28 pm 14 Nov 05

SGS So how do people tell the Government they are pissed off?

The use of legitimate leave for a private purpose such as attending a protest seems pretty acceptable, but the idea that the Government can “misleadingly” suggest such attendance is illegal is the real issue here.

Slinky the Shocker 8:57 pm 14 Nov 05

Sam, that’s the beauty of democratic systems…that people can raise their voice and maybe achieve something. If 30.000 would show (I knnow I’m dreaming, but that’s how many could be potentially f****d by the laws), you think Johnny would still look as smug? Unfortunately the whole IR laws thing got totally lost under the scaremongering about a cut lock near a nuclear reactor….So people…raise your voice!

Samuel Gordon-Stewar 8:25 pm 14 Nov 05

I personally on ringing John Laws tommorow to talk about how I think this protest is a worthless waste of time which won’t change anything and is attempting to bring the nation to a halt for no good reason.

Then again, I do listen to “the home of vicious old bastards of the air” according to some, so maybe that explains it.

I have no problem with people protesting about things, but I prefer it when they actually have a chance of success, otherwise they are just wasting their time, and making life difficult for people with something better to do.

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