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Indicate Mate

By Galactaphonic - 7 November 2011 84

I have been living in Canberra for 3 1/2 years now. What is the go with the lack of people being able to use an indicator in their car?

I am definitely in the minority when it comes to using an indicator when changing lanes.

I take my life into my hands every time I approach a roundabout wondering what the driver approaching from the right is going to do.

Is it seriously isn’t that hard to put an indicator on?

What’s Your opinion?


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Indicate Mate
Jane Proxy 3:40 pm 07 Nov 11

Grail said :

nemothorx said :

If you’re expecting them to indicate right, when they are driving straight – then please, learn the road rules, because it sounds like you might just be being a menace.

It was pretty clear to me that Galactaphonic was concerned that since nobody uses indicators there’s no way of telling whether the car entering the roundabout is turning left or continuing straight ahead, thus one must wait until the car has committed to turning left before one can enter the roundabout. That’s a few seconds in which one could have been half way across the roundabout (i.e.: have let another car through the roundabout and bot be holding up traffic).

Yes, it’s annoying to have your right of way rudely snatched away from you by someone who failed to indicate. Annoying, but not necessarily life threatening.

Arguably the most likely way for you take your life into your hands in this scenario is to enter the roundabout when all of the available information you have tells you that the car approaching from your right is going straight ahead (i.e. going to collide with you).

I’m not sure how having to give way when you didn’t necessarily need to is putting you at risk of anything more than inconvenience.

Since there is a limit to the number of ways that a person can risk his life on a roundabout, if you’re going to talk about taking your life into your hands it isn’t unreasonable to assume that you’re (a)talking about a course of action that falls within that limit, or (b)being melodramatic.

Should I just assume that people are more inclined towards hyperbole than stupidity?

EvanJames 3:19 pm 07 Nov 11

What’s the point of them indicating on a roundabout? It seems that the majority is under the delusion that, when on a roundabout, you must indicate RIGHT at all times, until you are off the roundabout.

qbninthecity 3:17 pm 07 Nov 11

Galactaphonic its actually quite difficult for the natives here to use an indicator, it requires far too much effort 🙂

Any driver entering a roundabout must give way to ANY vehicle in the roundabout, not just the ones on your right

Slashor 3:04 pm 07 Nov 11

I have found Canberra drivers to be quite good actually. There is of course, people who every so often fail to indicate but I have forgotten once or twice so I could give them the benefit of the doubt. I have found that a higher percentage of people fail to indicate early enough though. If your car is already moving in to another late using your indicator is pretty much a waste of time.

The most interesting thing I have found since moving northside in Canberra is indicating to come off a roundabout. If you are going straight you should turn on the left indicators at some point. I have seen many cars turn on their right indicators part the way through whilst still going straight.

Keijidosha 2:55 pm 07 Nov 11

Henry82 said :

Basically you have to treat it as if everyones brains are not working.

Fixed that for you.

nemothorx 2:52 pm 07 Nov 11

Thoroughly Smashed said :

I suspect you have misunderstood.

Misunderstood what? The OPs ambiguous rant, or the road rules – which are pretty clear and as I described above.

nemothorx 2:51 pm 07 Nov 11

Grail said :

It was pretty clear to me that Galactaphonic was

…being a dramallama.

There, I fixed it for you.

Grail said :

A little consideration means traffic all over the town will flow more smoothly.

Yup, agreed entirely. Doesn’t stop the original poster being unclear about what the rant is about (OP asks “Is it seriously isn’t that hard to put an indicator on?” as if expecting that an indicator MUST be enabled, and the lack of one is an obvious ambiguity)

bryansworld 2:51 pm 07 Nov 11

Henry82 said :

>implying anyone in Canberra can use a roundabout properly.

Basically you have to treat it as if everyones indicators are not working.

Roger that. I am a daily commuter cyclist. This manifestation of laziness is at best annoying, and at worst dangerous.

Henry82 2:46 pm 07 Nov 11

>implying anyone in Canberra can use a roundabout properly.

Basically you have to treat it as if everyones indicators are not working.

Grail 2:41 pm 07 Nov 11

nemothorx said :

If you’re expecting them to indicate right, when they are driving straight – then please, learn the road rules, because it sounds like you might just be being a menace.

It was pretty clear to me that Galactaphonic was concerned that since nobody uses indicators there’s no way of telling whether the car entering the roundabout is turning left or continuing straight ahead, thus one must wait until the car has committed to turning left before one can enter the roundabout. That’s a few seconds in which one could have been half way across the roundabout (i.e.: have let another car through the roundabout and bot be holding up traffic).

A similar problem occurs when a car doesn’t indicate if they’re turning right or going straight ahead, but it is only of concern at two-lane roundabouts: a car turning right in the inside lane means that it is safe for me to enter the roundabout in the outside lane to turn left or continue straight. A car on the inside lane continuing straight means it is not safe to enter.

A little consideration means traffic all over the town will flow more smoothly.

thatsnotme 2:40 pm 07 Nov 11

I just went on a drive down to Belconnen, and decided to put your claims to a thoroughly unscientific test during the trip. So I counted the number of times I saw drivers indicating correctly, vs not indicating. The score ended up being 104 – 4. Granted, that was for everything, not just changing lanes or at roundabouts, but I thought it was a pretty good result for Canberra drivers actually.

So in answer to your question, most people seem to say no, it isn’t really that hard to put an indicator on.

Thoroughly Smashed 2:39 pm 07 Nov 11

I like it when everyone around you tries as hard as they can to close down the gap as soon as they see you indicating (because you want to be in that gap, crazy I know). Bonus points for gaps that could have safely fit more than one more vehicle.

I suspect this behaviour is why some people don’t indicate.

nemothorx said :

So if someone is approaching you from the right at a roundabout (I am assuming a pretty basic “four exits at 90° to each other setup), and has no indicator, then you assume they’re going straight ahead – because that is correct and legal behaviour.

If they are actually failing to indicate because they’re making a turn, then that is an entirely different rant.

If you’re expecting them to indicate right, when they are driving straight – then please, learn the road rules, because it sounds like you might just be being a menace.

I suspect you have misunderstood.

MonarchRepublic 2:36 pm 07 Nov 11

Some people do seem to get very attached to their indicator, headlight, and brake light bulbs! So much so, that once they blow, people continue to drive with them not working.

It does irritate me so how many people dont bother using their indicators though. It really isn’t that hard…

nemothorx 2:31 pm 07 Nov 11

So if someone is approaching you from the right at a roundabout (I am assuming a pretty basic “four exits at 90° to each other setup), and has no indicator, then you assume they’re going straight ahead – because that is correct and legal behaviour.

If they are actually failing to indicate because they’re making a turn, then that is an entirely different rant.

If you’re expecting them to indicate right, when they are driving straight – then please, learn the road rules, because it sounds like you might just be being a menace.

Grail 2:18 pm 07 Nov 11

The conservation of indicator light bulbs is serious business here in the ‘berra.

It’s a family tradition that has been proudly handed down from generation to generation since the 70’s. I’m sure it would take more than a couple of blow-ins complaining on an obscure blog to change the tide 🙂

But for the record, I’m a religious indicator-user. I, too, find it annoying when people refuse to use indicators. I especially hate people driving urban combat vehicles doing this, since the attitude that they are taking is “everyone else is responsible for my safety, F— you all!”

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